Aaaarrrrgh - home cinema componants doing my head in!!!
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Right, so I am on a quest to start buying up bits for TV/music for when I move out (hopefully soon) so I have stuff already for the house - cos once I start shelling out on bills n stuff there probably won't much left to splash out on stuff ![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
Anyway, I just got a nice looking DVD/SACD player (should arrive in next few days hopefully) so next on the list is gonna be an AV amp - but what one is beyond me![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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List of stuff that needs to be connected to it (and what connecitons needed)
DVD/SACD player - digi coax or for DVD DTS and 6ch phono for SACD
Digibox PVR thingy - optical TOSlink
PC - optical TOSlink (not 100% sure this will be plugged into av amp tho)
Minidisc - optical TOSlink in and out
VCR - guessing simple composite audio (RCA) in and outs
So I was thinking of the Sony STR-DE695 - as I have had first hand experience of the STR-DE495 (similar, but less connections and lower speaker power) which I really liked.
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This has all the above connections, plus a few more RCA's, that I need, including the all important digital and optical connections..... But, the only review I can find on the net describes the sound as good, but not super fantastic - http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_STR_DE6...2.html?tag=nav
Anyway, the next major headache is speakers.... WTF lol...![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Obviosuly I need 5.1 set up, but I am not a huge fan of the all-in-one packages : we have one in our sitting room now and whilst it is loud, you can tell it's pushed, and the sub is too small (8") to rumble and bang enough with explosions - all sounds a tad weak to me..... Personally, I prefer different types of speakers for different applications, but I guess I need some good allrounders, but think I need to go more "componant" with my selection. I know I REALLY want a pair of Mission M74's as the main front left and rights, but these are bucks
![](http://www.yesplaza.co.kr/mimg/m74.jpg)
I need smallish, but good, rear fill speakers, and a clean and clear centre channel. But I have no idea about sub!!! I was literally thinking : a 12" JL Audio sub in a custom box, running off a mono DJ/stage amp - overkill? Before my bro moved out we had an 18" JL running off a 1200w mono block studiomaster amp and it was pretty sweet... Low rumble, big bass, but not over powering....
Anyway, peeps, as ever : suggestions are needed. I ain't rich so no Bose set up's please
In fact I am quite poor so this is all on a shoestring (read : ebay
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Anyway, I just got a nice looking DVD/SACD player (should arrive in next few days hopefully) so next on the list is gonna be an AV amp - but what one is beyond me
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List of stuff that needs to be connected to it (and what connecitons needed)
DVD/SACD player - digi coax or for DVD DTS and 6ch phono for SACD
Digibox PVR thingy - optical TOSlink
PC - optical TOSlink (not 100% sure this will be plugged into av amp tho)
Minidisc - optical TOSlink in and out
VCR - guessing simple composite audio (RCA) in and outs
So I was thinking of the Sony STR-DE695 - as I have had first hand experience of the STR-DE495 (similar, but less connections and lower speaker power) which I really liked.
![](http://www.nakupovanje.net/skin1/images/big/strde695s.jpg)
This has all the above connections, plus a few more RCA's, that I need, including the all important digital and optical connections..... But, the only review I can find on the net describes the sound as good, but not super fantastic - http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_STR_DE6...2.html?tag=nav
Anyway, the next major headache is speakers.... WTF lol...
![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Obviosuly I need 5.1 set up, but I am not a huge fan of the all-in-one packages : we have one in our sitting room now and whilst it is loud, you can tell it's pushed, and the sub is too small (8") to rumble and bang enough with explosions - all sounds a tad weak to me..... Personally, I prefer different types of speakers for different applications, but I guess I need some good allrounders, but think I need to go more "componant" with my selection. I know I REALLY want a pair of Mission M74's as the main front left and rights, but these are bucks
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![](http://www.yesplaza.co.kr/mimg/m74.jpg)
I need smallish, but good, rear fill speakers, and a clean and clear centre channel. But I have no idea about sub!!! I was literally thinking : a 12" JL Audio sub in a custom box, running off a mono DJ/stage amp - overkill? Before my bro moved out we had an 18" JL running off a 1200w mono block studiomaster amp and it was pretty sweet... Low rumble, big bass, but not over powering....
Anyway, peeps, as ever : suggestions are needed. I ain't rich so no Bose set up's please
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Bose is like B+O, all style no substance.
I use this forum Hi-fi forum but only for 2 channel stuff, but they have a home cinema room so maybe ask in there.
Speakers are a minefield generally, but if its for general purpose use AV then I wouldnt worry to much about spending a lot, mission, maudaunt short, kef, tannoy, wharfdale all do good speakers for what your after, as for the sub I'd go for an active sub rather than mess around running it off the amp, try hear HiFibitz they are about the cheapest on line hifi/AV place I know of and have a good selection from cheap to silly money
I use this forum Hi-fi forum but only for 2 channel stuff, but they have a home cinema room so maybe ask in there.
Speakers are a minefield generally, but if its for general purpose use AV then I wouldnt worry to much about spending a lot, mission, maudaunt short, kef, tannoy, wharfdale all do good speakers for what your after, as for the sub I'd go for an active sub rather than mess around running it off the amp, try hear HiFibitz they are about the cheapest on line hifi/AV place I know of and have a good selection from cheap to silly money
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Originally Posted by Thrush
So I was thinking of the Sony STR-DE695 - as I have had first hand experience of the STR-DE495 (similar, but less connections and lower speaker power) which I really liked.
This has all the above connections, plus a few more RCA's, that I need, including the all important digital and optical connections..... But, the only review I can find on the net describes the sound as good, but not super fantastic -
This has all the above connections, plus a few more RCA's, that I need, including the all important digital and optical connections..... But, the only review I can find on the net describes the sound as good, but not super fantastic -
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I have a pair of Mission M74's . These are the first set of speakers that I have been given ( xmas pressie from bro)
Although I dont have them for surround sound , they are connected to Cyrus 6 amp & cd player.
I reckon they are good speakers though.
Only just started getting back into music again .
At the moment I have a Tannoy 5.1 package though , in time I would like to upgrade my set up , possibly going along the lines of Mordaunt Short speaker route.
What about THX rated speakers, are these worthwhile or not as I am not too sure
Although I dont have them for surround sound , they are connected to Cyrus 6 amp & cd player.
I reckon they are good speakers though.
Only just started getting back into music again .
At the moment I have a Tannoy 5.1 package though , in time I would like to upgrade my set up , possibly going along the lines of Mordaunt Short speaker route.
What about THX rated speakers, are these worthwhile or not as I am not too sure
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Have you had alook around this forum. It might be worth asking about it on there. There's alot of reviews, but not of yours.
http://www.avforums.com/
http://avreviews.avforums.com/index.php
3 optical and 1 digital---- Just about every amp out there will have that
I have a modest mix and match set up myself with a Denon amp, Mission front floorstanders a rel sub and various other speakers.
I think to get the best out of THX speakers, everything else would need to be THX too.
http://www.avforums.com/
http://avreviews.avforums.com/index.php
3 optical and 1 digital---- Just about every amp out there will have that
I have a modest mix and match set up myself with a Denon amp, Mission front floorstanders a rel sub and various other speakers.
I think to get the best out of THX speakers, everything else would need to be THX too.
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Fil - thanks for posting that up - not like I wasn't gonna bid on it - now the whole world has you linking to it
I might give that a miss tho, as it only has composite or S-video as the inputs, whereas I would quite like to get one with componant input (tho I don't have any items with componant inputs it must be said)
ronf42 - I am already a member on there
But no, surprisingly, not that many amps have 3x optical in + 1x digital, and 1x optical outputs - It's only a couple of the Sony's, a couple of Denon's and another brand I can't remember that has that ammount of digi inputs... THX set up's ARE great, as is the nature of THX, but a) they cost a shit load (not just speakers, but source units and amplifier's/decoder's) and b) unless your room is actoustically set up for it, you won't see that much benefit over a non THX system.... Thats the whole point of going to a THX equipped theater - not just cos of the gear, but in order for them to "qualify" for THX rated gear they have to pass certain THX standard tests, the main being acoustic and sonic testing of the room
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ronf42 - I am already a member on there
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Originally Posted by Thrush
I might give that a miss tho, as it only has composite or S-video as the inputs, whereas I would quite like to get one with componant input (tho I don't have any items with componant inputs it must be said)
ronf42 - I am already a member on there
But no, surprisingly, not that many amps have 3x optical in + 1x digital, and 1x optical outputs - It's only a couple of the Sony's, a couple of Denon's and another brand I can't remember that has that ammount of digi inputs...
ronf42 - I am already a member on there
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Not sure which amps you're looking at, but 3 opt in, 1 out and 1 coax in is very common. It was on my 10year old sony budget amp even. Getting more than 1 coax can be more of a problem.
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thrush bose systems aint that much cash if you have the paitence tbh
ive got bose am5'smand bose 302 speakers on my front room,,,, they sound the bollox tbh and thats running from a STEREO 6 channel rotel power amp through my hitachi ( yes i do mean hitachi) mini system cause that uses a sperate power amp too
also please note i no longer use a 20band graphic EQ,,,,,,, as the bloke in the cornflake shop when i was gettign into hifi once said to me if 100k worth of studio cant get the sound perfect what fucking chance has a 200 quid EQ
think that was a fair point
ive also got tanoy speakers for my kitchen and gonna get some marine spec bose speakers for the bathroom
and im far from rich too
ive got bose am5'smand bose 302 speakers on my front room,,,, they sound the bollox tbh and thats running from a STEREO 6 channel rotel power amp through my hitachi ( yes i do mean hitachi) mini system cause that uses a sperate power amp too
also please note i no longer use a 20band graphic EQ,,,,,,, as the bloke in the cornflake shop when i was gettign into hifi once said to me if 100k worth of studio cant get the sound perfect what fucking chance has a 200 quid EQ
think that was a fair point
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ive also got tanoy speakers for my kitchen and gonna get some marine spec bose speakers for the bathroom
and im far from rich too
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Originally Posted by Simon
B&W speakers, Best speakers in the world without a doubt ![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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yet i dont even have free view,,,,, and ive got a projector
but i bet ya emerdale in my house is the best place to watch it
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thats the only fucking place i can fit it
the hifi in me front room aont even proper stereo placement as theres 2 sofas on joining walls
but who cares as people enter the front room see the am5's on the main wall, they dont see the sub behind the sofa ( or the cossie engine and no im not joking
) and the bose 302 in stands beside the sofas
sounds the tits but not like a peadofile would like as its not balanced sound blah blah bollox
but my speaker cable is 15quid a meter
the hifi in me front room aont even proper stereo placement as theres 2 sofas on joining walls
but who cares as people enter the front room see the am5's on the main wall, they dont see the sub behind the sofa ( or the cossie engine and no im not joking
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sounds the tits but not like a peadofile would like as its not balanced sound blah blah bollox
but my speaker cable is 15quid a meter
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