Aliens/UFO's
15-08-2006, 02:59 PM
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Aliens/UFO's
do you believe? I'm undecided, usually because the so called "proof" in videos that get shown is a bit dodgy to say the least, it amaze's me how jog bloggs just happened to be filming the sky when a UFO strolled into town.
This video is a bit different though, as its from a Mexican MILITARY plane used as an interceptor against the drug trafficing trade, which also means its equipped with video/infrared and the usual radar. dont really see this video very often, wonder why
Sorry if its a repost as the video was released in 2004
Mexican UFO vid
Plenty of stuff about it on the web so read up all you like
This video is a bit different though, as its from a Mexican MILITARY plane used as an interceptor against the drug trafficing trade, which also means its equipped with video/infrared and the usual radar. dont really see this video very often, wonder why
Sorry if its a repost as the video was released in 2004
Mexican UFO vid
Plenty of stuff about it on the web so read up all you like
15-08-2006, 03:48 PM
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un-decided ive been in crop circles at a young age and a few years ago was on the tractor doing something noticed a wierd shape in the skay had to look down check i wasnt going to crush my car, looked up again and it had gone
hard to tell what on earths going on in that pic, did you see the australian one about a week ago ?
hard to tell what on earths going on in that pic, did you see the australian one about a week ago ?
15-08-2006, 03:53 PM
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un-decided ive been in crop circles at a young age and a few years ago was on the tractor doing something noticed a wierd shape in the skay had to look down check i wasnt going to crush my car, looked up again and it had gone
hard to tell what on earths going on in that pic, did you see the australian one about a week ago ?
hard to tell what on earths going on in that pic, did you see the australian one about a week ago ?
15-08-2006, 09:22 PM
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That footage is some of the best UFO footage i have seen tbh....not your usual silver floating sphere
I think it is very nieve to think they earth is the ONLY inhabitated plant in the WHOLE universe
I think it is very nieve to think they earth is the ONLY inhabitated plant in the WHOLE universe
16-08-2006, 01:19 AM
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yes i agree there are billions of other galaxies which means there must be another planet similar to earth somewhere in one of them galaxies, meaning life could have evolved elsewhere.
The problem facing us though is that the solar system seems to be moving away from each other as we can see by the redshift on the spectrum, similar actions to what happened to Pangaea on earth.
This means reaching other life forms is becoming more and more difficult.
I do not believe aliens have visited this earth due to my comment above but what i do believe that there was once living organisms on Mars, due to the water found beneath the rock (frozen) and the fossils.
Aliens do not need to breathe oxygen, they could breathe any type of gas or maybe not even breathe at all.
The only time we may come close to visiting aliens or other life forms is when our galaxy collides with another (which is predicted to happen) but the sun is to burn out into a black dwarf before then, and even if we do collide with a galaxy beforehand we may not expand but become a black hole, leaving us, either way with nothing
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The problem facing us though is that the solar system seems to be moving away from each other as we can see by the redshift on the spectrum, similar actions to what happened to Pangaea on earth.
This means reaching other life forms is becoming more and more difficult.
I do not believe aliens have visited this earth due to my comment above but what i do believe that there was once living organisms on Mars, due to the water found beneath the rock (frozen) and the fossils.
Aliens do not need to breathe oxygen, they could breathe any type of gas or maybe not even breathe at all.
The only time we may come close to visiting aliens or other life forms is when our galaxy collides with another (which is predicted to happen) but the sun is to burn out into a black dwarf before then, and even if we do collide with a galaxy beforehand we may not expand but become a black hole, leaving us, either way with nothing
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16-08-2006, 07:18 PM
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16-08-2006, 07:55 PM
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hmm yes i think i do as to us seeing them often? prob not i really think that its entirely possible that there is other life forms of sorts in other places.but they prob dont even get near us.strange though as i dont believe in god! maybe other being watch us and think,bollox im not gonig in there!destructive little fuckers them humans!
16-08-2006, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Danielle
yes i agree there are billions of other galaxies which means there must be another planet similar to earth somewhere in one of them galaxies, meaning life could have evolved elsewhere.
The problem facing us though is that the solar system seems to be moving away from each other as we can see by the redshift on the spectrum, similar actions to what happened to Pangaea on earth.
This means reaching other life forms is becoming more and more difficult.
I do not believe aliens have visited this earth due to my comment above but what i do believe that there was once living organisms on Mars, due to the water found beneath the rock (frozen) and the fossils.
Aliens do not need to breathe oxygen, they could breathe any type of gas or maybe not even breathe at all.
The only time we may come close to visiting aliens or other life forms is when our galaxy collides with another (which is predicted to happen) but the sun is to burn out into a black dwarf before then, and even if we do collide with a galaxy beforehand we may not expand but become a black hole, leaving us, either way with nothing .
The problem facing us though is that the solar system seems to be moving away from each other as we can see by the redshift on the spectrum, similar actions to what happened to Pangaea on earth.
This means reaching other life forms is becoming more and more difficult.
I do not believe aliens have visited this earth due to my comment above but what i do believe that there was once living organisms on Mars, due to the water found beneath the rock (frozen) and the fossils.
Aliens do not need to breathe oxygen, they could breathe any type of gas or maybe not even breathe at all.
The only time we may come close to visiting aliens or other life forms is when our galaxy collides with another (which is predicted to happen) but the sun is to burn out into a black dwarf before then, and even if we do collide with a galaxy beforehand we may not expand but become a black hole, leaving us, either way with nothing
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16-08-2006, 10:29 PM
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yeah in my opinion not far enough to make the advance to visit other galaxies, this galaxy does not hold life as far as we know. you don't know they are more evolved though, there is no proof either way, its like god and religion. Its all about what you believe. I can state the facts but i cannot tell you what to believe, thats up to you!!!
17-08-2006, 11:36 AM
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The initialisation UFO means Unidentified Flying Object.
That's an object that's flying (or appears to be flying) that hasn't been identified.
That may seem a patronising thing to say but it seems many people need this explaining to them.
So to the layman a meterior storm might be a UFO, to a pilot a prototype aircraft might a UFO and to a conspiracy theorist a blurry picture of chicken feeder being hung on a wire might be a UFO.
My point is just because something is a UFO that doesn't suggest in any way it must be an alien space craft.
Could these UFO's be alien space craft well it certainly begs a few questions. I mean we had technology that could make a large plane appear the size of a bee on radar in the late 50's and satilites that can read the print off newspapers from space not long after. To think that an alien race has mastered the time issue of intergalactic flight and then done the following:
a: Affixed their undercover survalience craft with bright lights
b: Made the mistake of landing on crop fields and leaving a impression numerous times
c: Crashing into a desert and not fitting ejector seats
d: Decided that the only people worth probing with paraniod American rednecks
That's all a tad far fetched imo.
That's an object that's flying (or appears to be flying) that hasn't been identified.
That may seem a patronising thing to say but it seems many people need this explaining to them.
So to the layman a meterior storm might be a UFO, to a pilot a prototype aircraft might a UFO and to a conspiracy theorist a blurry picture of chicken feeder being hung on a wire might be a UFO.
My point is just because something is a UFO that doesn't suggest in any way it must be an alien space craft.
Could these UFO's be alien space craft well it certainly begs a few questions. I mean we had technology that could make a large plane appear the size of a bee on radar in the late 50's and satilites that can read the print off newspapers from space not long after. To think that an alien race has mastered the time issue of intergalactic flight and then done the following:
a: Affixed their undercover survalience craft with bright lights
b: Made the mistake of landing on crop fields and leaving a impression numerous times
c: Crashing into a desert and not fitting ejector seats
d: Decided that the only people worth probing with paraniod American rednecks
That's all a tad far fetched imo.
17-08-2006, 11:43 AM
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The initialisation UFO means Unidentified Flying Object.
That's an object that's flying (or appears to be flying) that hasn't been identified.
That may seem a patronising thing to say but it seems many people need this explaining to them.
So to the layman a meterior storm might be a UFO, to a pilot a prototype aircraft might a UFO and to a conspiracy theorist a blurry picture of chicken feeder being hung on a wire might be a UFO.
My point is just because something is a UFO that doesn't suggest in any way it must be an alien space craft.
Could these UFO's be alien space craft well it certainly begs a few questions. I mean we had technology that could make a large plane appear the size of a bee on radar in the late 50's and satilites that can read the print off newspapers from space not long after. To think that an alien race has mastered the time issue of intergalactic flight and then done the following:
a: Affixed their undercover survalience craft with bright lights
b: Made the mistake of landing on crop fields and leaving a impression numerous times
c: Crashing into a desert and not fitting ejector seats
d: Decided that the only people worth probing with paraniod American rednecks
That's all a tad far fetched imo.
That's an object that's flying (or appears to be flying) that hasn't been identified.
That may seem a patronising thing to say but it seems many people need this explaining to them.
So to the layman a meterior storm might be a UFO, to a pilot a prototype aircraft might a UFO and to a conspiracy theorist a blurry picture of chicken feeder being hung on a wire might be a UFO.
My point is just because something is a UFO that doesn't suggest in any way it must be an alien space craft.
Could these UFO's be alien space craft well it certainly begs a few questions. I mean we had technology that could make a large plane appear the size of a bee on radar in the late 50's and satilites that can read the print off newspapers from space not long after. To think that an alien race has mastered the time issue of intergalactic flight and then done the following:
a: Affixed their undercover survalience craft with bright lights
b: Made the mistake of landing on crop fields and leaving a impression numerous times
c: Crashing into a desert and not fitting ejector seats
d: Decided that the only people worth probing with paraniod American rednecks
That's all a tad far fetched imo.
Personally I hope that all these UFO's turn out to be experimental aircraft, I find that far more exciting/intresting than it being some jockey from another planet
Only thing is, how long can they keep experimental aircraft under wraps? if it turns out to be a plane then the general description of what a UFO is (a hovering/flying sphere) can be dated back to the 50's so thats 50 years under wraps straight away, are they going to do it forever? let us all have a look I say
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Originally Posted by Matt J
Originally Posted by MWF
The initialisation UFO means Unidentified Flying Object.
That's an object that's flying (or appears to be flying) that hasn't been identified.
That may seem a patronising thing to say but it seems many people need this explaining to them.
So to the layman a meterior storm might be a UFO, to a pilot a prototype aircraft might a UFO and to a conspiracy theorist a blurry picture of chicken feeder being hung on a wire might be a UFO.
My point is just because something is a UFO that doesn't suggest in any way it must be an alien space craft.
Could these UFO's be alien space craft well it certainly begs a few questions. I mean we had technology that could make a large plane appear the size of a bee on radar in the late 50's and satilites that can read the print off newspapers from space not long after. To think that an alien race has mastered the time issue of intergalactic flight and then done the following:
a: Affixed their undercover survalience craft with bright lights
b: Made the mistake of landing on crop fields and leaving a impression numerous times
c: Crashing into a desert and not fitting ejector seats
d: Decided that the only people worth probing with paraniod American rednecks
That's all a tad far fetched imo.
That's an object that's flying (or appears to be flying) that hasn't been identified.
That may seem a patronising thing to say but it seems many people need this explaining to them.
So to the layman a meterior storm might be a UFO, to a pilot a prototype aircraft might a UFO and to a conspiracy theorist a blurry picture of chicken feeder being hung on a wire might be a UFO.
My point is just because something is a UFO that doesn't suggest in any way it must be an alien space craft.
Could these UFO's be alien space craft well it certainly begs a few questions. I mean we had technology that could make a large plane appear the size of a bee on radar in the late 50's and satilites that can read the print off newspapers from space not long after. To think that an alien race has mastered the time issue of intergalactic flight and then done the following:
a: Affixed their undercover survalience craft with bright lights
b: Made the mistake of landing on crop fields and leaving a impression numerous times
c: Crashing into a desert and not fitting ejector seats
d: Decided that the only people worth probing with paraniod American rednecks
That's all a tad far fetched imo.
Personally I hope that all these UFO's turn out to be experimental aircraft, I find that far more exciting/intresting than it being some jockey from another planet
Only thing is, how long can they keep experimental aircraft under wraps? if it turns out to be a plane then the general description of what a UFO is (a hovering/flying sphere) can be dated back to the 50's so thats 50 years under wraps straight away, are they going to do it forever? let us all have a look I say
If you are interested in prototype aircraft conspiracy then you need to look toward Nick Cook who's detailed his findings on how the American military promoted the idea of Alien UFO's to help mask their own cold war aircraft developments.
As for experimental hovering spheres dating back to the 50's and before, well I guess some looking into the Luftwaffes 'foo fighters' would be worth a look.
17-08-2006, 11:58 AM
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The only thimg that bothers me is if they are experimentl planes, then they dont fit the MO of previous efforts from the US;
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All the above have been top secret and eventually filtered into the service and then become public knowledge, and all during the last 50 years, yet all of them are still fundementally planes, with the standard layout of wings and jet propulsion, you'd think after 50 years they'd of cracked this flying saucer bollocks and they'd be using them
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All the above have been top secret and eventually filtered into the service and then become public knowledge, and all during the last 50 years, yet all of them are still fundementally planes, with the standard layout of wings and jet propulsion, you'd think after 50 years they'd of cracked this flying saucer bollocks and they'd be using them
17-08-2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OvaBoost
'Aliens' are most probably hundreds of times more advanced with technology and the way they live...and they probably CAN travel at the speed of light with there machines. Us humans just havn't got to that stage yet...we will someday. Look how far weve come in the last couple hundred years?
But yes I do agree with you,we can't be the only living species in the galaxy.
17-08-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt J
The only thimg that bothers me is if they are experimentl planes, then they dont fit the MO of previous efforts from the US;
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All the above have been top secret and eventually filtered into the service and then become public knowledge, and all during the last 50 years, yet all of them are still fundementally planes, with the standard layout of wings and jet propulsion, you'd think after 50 years they'd of cracked this flying saucer bollocks and they'd be using them
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All the above have been top secret and eventually filtered into the service and then become public knowledge, and all during the last 50 years, yet all of them are still fundementally planes, with the standard layout of wings and jet propulsion, you'd think after 50 years they'd of cracked this flying saucer bollocks and they'd be using them
Something worth considering is that while UFO's are often called flying saucers it's said that stereotype was coined in reference to a light aircraft pilots comment that the UFO's he saw skipped along in the air like saucers being thrown, not that they looked like saucers.
Obviously bright lights can be misleading and depending on they angle you look at a plane it can look very different. Imagine for instance someone caught a glimpse of a Sealth Bomber and tried to draw what they saw, it would probably look very different to how we know it looks.
High altitude weather balloons seem another large culprit of 'saucer' sightings, especially as they are often made of a silver reflective material.
17-08-2006, 03:47 PM
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hey i never said anything about UFOs being aliens!!!
i know what UFO stands for and you can buy flying lights which float off using hydrogen, these have been classed as UFO's and the government have looked into it, only to then IDENTIFY the object as a light.
I just don't believe any of the UFO's are other life forms thats all!
i know what UFO stands for and you can buy flying lights which float off using hydrogen, these have been classed as UFO's and the government have looked into it, only to then IDENTIFY the object as a light.
I just don't believe any of the UFO's are other life forms thats all!
17-08-2006, 04:06 PM
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well, I suppose if you saw an SR71 before it was "unveiled", it would have been a UFO. And people would have called you nuts.
Of course UFO's are man made. Well, I'm sure most of them are anyhow.
Have you seen the old footage of the stuff the Nazi's had, and the launching platforms they used? Imagine how much it's come on since then end of WW2. And why hasn't any of this technology been released". Oh yeah, still some oil left to be made money on.
I mean, surely jet engines aren't the be all and end all of travel. We're all sitting on one giant electromagnet anyhow (the earth).
Of course UFO's are man made. Well, I'm sure most of them are anyhow.
Have you seen the old footage of the stuff the Nazi's had, and the launching platforms they used? Imagine how much it's come on since then end of WW2. And why hasn't any of this technology been released". Oh yeah, still some oil left to be made money on.
I mean, surely jet engines aren't the be all and end all of travel. We're all sitting on one giant electromagnet anyhow (the earth).
17-08-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Graham S1
Have you seen the old footage of the stuff the Nazi's had, and the launching platforms they used? Imagine how much it's come on since then end of WW2. And why hasn't any of this technology been released". Oh yeah, still some oil left to be made money on.
19-08-2006, 04:46 PM
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this is interesting. 
seems we have been talking about them for some time over history.
http://www.spiritandflesh.net/Christ...anReligion.jpg
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cg...erSection=work
seems we have been talking about them for some time over history.
http://www.spiritandflesh.net/Christ...anReligion.jpg
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cg...erSection=work
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I dont cos i watched a prog with all this on i think it was on ch4 or itv2 or bbc three i cant remember not too long along 2 weeks ago? & nearly all these ufo, alien & w/e videos are hoxes! some even done by pros, it then went to alien altopsy = spelling! it looked so fooking real! it wasnt. One vid was actually a real body (yet again by pro's) & another with a pro made alien body filled with sheep blah blah insides! 
So all these vids & that are wank to me, as i will keep on saying... nothing real til you see it with your eyes & not through some sad getto spaceman wannabe
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it wasnt. One vid was actually a real body (yet again by pro's) & another with a pro made alien body filled with sheep blah blah insides! So all these vids & that are wank to me, as i will keep on saying... nothing real til you see it with your eyes & not through some sad getto spaceman wannabe
All that isnt right click copy paste