Dilemma, EVO or RS500?? ( Dilemma solved)
08-08-2006, 01:05 PM
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as a daily road car defo not an rs500-but did pete use his 3 door as an everyday runner?
as i have already said i would have a subaru as an everyday runner as i like the way they drive and so cheap(my n reg wagon was £1600!).whereas an evo 6 is what....£10k?i gave £5500 for the evo4 and was just so disapointed.
rs500 is nice to own and is special(and depreciation proof!).but definately not an every day runner.
where has pete gone?????
as i have already said i would have a subaru as an everyday runner as i like the way they drive and so cheap(my n reg wagon was £1600!).whereas an evo 6 is what....£10k?i gave £5500 for the evo4 and was just so disapointed.
rs500 is nice to own and is special(and depreciation proof!).but definately not an every day runner.
where has pete gone?????
08-08-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
.........I even like the idea of that RX7 with the Cossie lump - anyone know if it ever got finished? 
If so, his YB engined RX7 will be on track at National Day, because the new engine for his Escort Mk 2 wont be ready in time.
08-08-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
.........I even like the idea of that RX7 with the Cossie lump - anyone know if it ever got finished?
If so, his YB engined RX7 will be on track at National Day, because the new engine for his Escort Mk 2 wont be ready in time.
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08-08-2006, 01:26 PM
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For me it would be the 500, but I guess that's why I'm on this site and not a Lancer one!
Anyone know which Lancer was released the same year as the RS500?
Anyone know which Lancer was released the same year as the RS500?
08-08-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Actually, I can see EXACTLY where Jay is coming from.
His Nan could drive an Evo quickly and anyone else with a modicum of skill could get within seconds of a truly quick driver's lap time with one (back to back, same car). This is due to all the electronics helping out the ham-fisted etc.
A POWERFUL 2wd Cossie is a LOT of hard work to keep pointing in a straight line, let alone around a track in a quick time. Mastering this skill gives an extra bit of enjoyment out of owning one, compared to the ease of driving an Evo fast, which ANYONE can do
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His Nan could drive an Evo quickly and anyone else with a modicum of skill could get within seconds of a truly quick driver's lap time with one (back to back, same car). This is due to all the electronics helping out the ham-fisted etc.
A POWERFUL 2wd Cossie is a LOT of hard work to keep pointing in a straight line, let alone around a track in a quick time. Mastering this skill gives an extra bit of enjoyment out of owning one, compared to the ease of driving an Evo fast, which ANYONE can do
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08-08-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by arkley
For me it would be the 500, but I guess that's why I'm on this site and not a Lancer one!
Anyone know which Lancer was released the same year as the RS500?
Anyone know which Lancer was released the same year as the RS500?
Oh and Evo TME every time
08-08-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by RichardPON
So why don't you have a powerful 2wd cossie anymore then Mike?
. But I would like another again one day actually . But at the moment, I can't justify it .I have in my mind an ultimate spec one, that should my numbers come up, I WILL build (so never then
). You may be surprised to know it would only be around 460-470bhp, but be super responsive and with the steering mods to give it more lock, I'd like to go drifting with it as well 
.I would also like to say, that on the ROAD, my Sapphire was more fun than the Escort. But on track (where you can explore the limits of traction etc), the situation is reversed, as the Sapphire with 500+bhp was too frustrating with all that wheel-spin.
JUST OFF TOPIC HOW MANY MILES DO YOU GET OUT OF A SET OF YOUR TRACK TYRES. LOOKED AT THEM ON SUNDAY WHEN YOU CAME OFF TRACK AND THEY WERE ROASTING WITH THE BASHING THEY GOT. SORRY
08-08-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Evo. As you just sold a proper 3door and a 500 will probably be a let down until you spend loads on it to get it to the spec of your 3dr.
not that im selling mine!
08-08-2006, 02:05 PM
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Not that I've given it any thought
Technical Specification:
ENGINE:
Type: Ford-Cosworth YBB
Capacity: 2280cc
Bore / Stroke: 93.00mm/82.00mm
Compression ratio: 7.4:1
Max. power: 465bhp @ 7050rpm @ 27 PSI.
Torque @ max. power: 355lb.ft
Max. torque: 400lb.ft @ 5000rpm @ 30 PSI.
Power @ max. torque: 360bhp
Specific output: 232.5 bhp per litre.
Power / weight ratio: 400bhp/tonne.
Cylinders: Four, in-line (4 x 4 pistons).
Cylinder head: Works spec large ported 4x4 head (Nick Waples) with "secret profile" cams.
Block: Cast iron 4 x 4 (200 Series), WRC tri-metallic head gasket, long-studded, with fully balanced bottom end (including longer steel rods), Farndon crank, custom spec lower compression height pistons and high pressure oil pump.
Valve gear: Four valves per cylinder, operated by belt-driven twin overhead camshafts and solid lifters operated by Cosworth DFV valve springs.
Fuel and ignition: Pectel T6, Pectel monitor, water injection, Ford Motorsport leads, coil-pack / wasted spark system, AGPS 071 plugs, Mountune roller barrel intake, four 650cc injectors and Bosch 5 bar MAP sensor. Specially programmed ISS (Intercooler Spray System) chip live mapped on engine dyno using Ford Motorsport air injectors for the boost control.
Cooling: Pro-Alloy header tank, 4x4 thermostat, housing and water pump, Pro-Alloy double thickness alloy radiator and swirl pot. Laminova oil cooler (water cooled). Big wing (5½ litre) baffled sump and WRC crankcase breather kit with braided hosing.
Induction: K&N panel filter inside a modified air box with Bailey RS500 lid and turbo pipe, SCS spec T38 turbo, Spec-R damper bracket and genuine RS500 horse-shoe damper, -31 actuator, Pro-Alloy "wide-boy RS 500" air to air intercooler and Bailey piston type recirculating dump valve.
Installation: Front, longitudinal.
Exhaust: Magnex twin 2¼" system with 4" tail pipe.
TRANSMISSION:
Type: Front-engine, rear-wheel-drive.
Gearbox: Tremec 6-speed
Diff: Ford Motorsport 9" with 3.64:1 CWP
WHEELS & TYRES:
Wheels: Compomotive TH2 cast alloy - front 7½" x 17", ET37mm, rear 8" x 17" ET40
Tyres:
Front: 215/40ZR17, Dunlop DZ02G cut slicks
Rear: 235/40ZR17, Dunlop DZ02 cut slicks
SUSPENSION:
Front: Independent by LEDA adjustable 2½" coilovers with 350lb springs. Macpherson struts, three-door Cosworth hubs and track control arms, set to 2° negative camber, 0" 20' toe in. Standard 28mm anti-roll bar with polyurethane bushes and Grp A three piece strut brace.
Rear: Independent, by semi-trailing arms, LEDA adjustable 2¼" coilovers with 171lb springs and Escort Cosworth 22mm anti-roll bar. Ream beam replaced with an Ahmed Bayjoo modified (Grp A) 6°
item, rose jointed and fully adjustable set to 1.5° negative camber and 0' 20" toe-in. Polyurethane rear axle bushes and Sparco rose jointed rear strut brace.
Rear bumpsteer:
Bump
60mm - 0.030" toe in
50mm - 0.023" toe in
40mm - 0.015" toe in
30mm - 0.009" toe in
20mm - 0.005" toe in
10mm - 0.003" toe in
0.0mm - 0.000" toe in
Droop
10mm - 0.001" toe out
20mm - 0.002" toe out
30mm - 0.003" toe out
INTERIOR:
Front: Recaro carbon SP2 race seats.
All carpet, sound deadening and rear seats stripped out.
Carbon door cards.
Stack ST8130P dash
Boost pressure gauge - APEXi 2.5 bar
Defi Exhaust Gas Temperature gauge
Defi water temp gauge
Electric sunroof conversion.
Manual over-ride on fan control.
3 stage switchable boost - 1 to 2.5 bar
Momo carbon fibre gear knob.
4 x 4 gator.
Water injection light.
Pectel Monitor mounted in air vents.
Flocked dash.
BRAKES:
Front: AP Racing 355mm (14") grooved and and ventilated discs wth aluminium bell. AP Racing CP5555 6-pot callipers and stainless-steel stainless-steel braided hoses.
Rear: AP Racing 315mm (12.4") grooved and ventilated discs wth aluminium bell. AP Racing CP5200 4-pot callipers and stainless-steel braided hose.
System: Hydraulic, dual-circuit with vacuum servo assistance and Teves ABS.
STEERING:
Type: Power-assisted rack-&-pinion.
Lock-to-lock: 2.4 turns
BODY / CHASSIS:
Type: Pressed-steel monocoque, based on conventional Sierra, in four-door saloon style. Bonnet, boot, wings and bumpers replaced with light-weight GRP items.
Chassis construction: In steel, as part of monocoque
Dimensions:
Length: 4490mm Width: 1700mm [b/]Height:[/b] 1377mm Wheelbase: 2609mm Front track: 1450mm Rear track: 1466mm Weight: 1162Kg*
*Weight without driver and with half tank of fuel
Technical Specification:
ENGINE:
Type: Ford-Cosworth YBB
Capacity: 2280cc
Bore / Stroke: 93.00mm/82.00mm
Compression ratio: 7.4:1
Max. power: 465bhp @ 7050rpm @ 27 PSI.
Torque @ max. power: 355lb.ft
Max. torque: 400lb.ft @ 5000rpm @ 30 PSI.
Power @ max. torque: 360bhp
Specific output: 232.5 bhp per litre.
Power / weight ratio: 400bhp/tonne.
Cylinders: Four, in-line (4 x 4 pistons).
Cylinder head: Works spec large ported 4x4 head (Nick Waples) with "secret profile"
cams. Block: Cast iron 4 x 4 (200 Series), WRC tri-metallic head gasket, long-studded, with fully balanced bottom end (including longer steel rods), Farndon crank, custom spec lower compression height pistons and high pressure oil pump.
Valve gear: Four valves per cylinder, operated by belt-driven twin overhead camshafts and solid lifters operated by Cosworth DFV valve springs.
Fuel and ignition: Pectel T6, Pectel monitor, water injection, Ford Motorsport leads, coil-pack / wasted spark system, AGPS 071 plugs, Mountune roller barrel intake, four 650cc injectors and Bosch 5 bar MAP sensor. Specially programmed ISS (Intercooler Spray System) chip live mapped on engine dyno using Ford Motorsport air injectors for the boost control.
Cooling: Pro-Alloy header tank, 4x4 thermostat, housing and water pump, Pro-Alloy double thickness alloy radiator and swirl pot. Laminova oil cooler (water cooled). Big wing (5½ litre) baffled sump and WRC crankcase breather kit with braided hosing.
Induction: K&N panel filter inside a modified air box with Bailey RS500 lid and turbo pipe, SCS spec T38 turbo, Spec-R damper bracket and genuine RS500 horse-shoe damper, -31 actuator, Pro-Alloy "wide-boy RS 500" air to air intercooler and Bailey piston type recirculating dump valve.
Installation: Front, longitudinal.
Exhaust: Magnex twin 2¼" system with 4" tail pipe.
TRANSMISSION:
Type: Front-engine, rear-wheel-drive.
Gearbox: Tremec 6-speed
Diff: Ford Motorsport 9" with 3.64:1 CWP
WHEELS & TYRES:
Wheels: Compomotive TH2 cast alloy - front 7½" x 17", ET37mm, rear 8" x 17" ET40
Tyres:
Front: 215/40ZR17, Dunlop DZ02G cut slicks
Rear: 235/40ZR17, Dunlop DZ02 cut slicks
SUSPENSION:
Front: Independent by LEDA adjustable 2½" coilovers with 350lb springs. Macpherson struts, three-door Cosworth hubs and track control arms, set to 2° negative camber, 0" 20' toe in. Standard 28mm anti-roll bar with polyurethane bushes and Grp A three piece strut brace.
Rear: Independent, by semi-trailing arms, LEDA adjustable 2¼" coilovers with 171lb springs and Escort Cosworth 22mm anti-roll bar. Ream beam replaced with an Ahmed Bayjoo modified (Grp A) 6°
item, rose jointed and fully adjustable set to 1.5° negative camber and 0' 20" toe-in. Polyurethane rear axle bushes and Sparco rose jointed rear strut brace.
Rear bumpsteer:
Bump
60mm - 0.030" toe in
50mm - 0.023" toe in
40mm - 0.015" toe in
30mm - 0.009" toe in
20mm - 0.005" toe in
10mm - 0.003" toe in
0.0mm - 0.000" toe in
Droop
10mm - 0.001" toe out
20mm - 0.002" toe out
30mm - 0.003" toe out
INTERIOR:
Front: Recaro carbon SP2 race seats.
All carpet, sound deadening and rear seats stripped out.
Carbon door cards.
Stack ST8130P dash
Boost pressure gauge - APEXi 2.5 bar
Defi Exhaust Gas Temperature gauge
Defi water temp gauge
Electric sunroof conversion.
Manual over-ride on fan control.
3 stage switchable boost - 1 to 2.5 bar
Momo carbon fibre gear knob.
4 x 4 gator.
Water injection light.
Pectel Monitor mounted in air vents.
Flocked dash.
BRAKES:
Front: AP Racing 355mm (14") grooved and and ventilated discs wth aluminium bell. AP Racing CP5555 6-pot callipers and stainless-steel stainless-steel braided hoses.
Rear: AP Racing 315mm (12.4") grooved and ventilated discs wth aluminium bell. AP Racing CP5200 4-pot callipers and stainless-steel braided hose.
System: Hydraulic, dual-circuit with vacuum servo assistance and Teves ABS.
STEERING:
Type: Power-assisted rack-&-pinion.
Lock-to-lock: 2.4 turns
BODY / CHASSIS:
Type: Pressed-steel monocoque, based on conventional Sierra, in four-door saloon style. Bonnet, boot, wings and bumpers replaced with light-weight GRP items.
Chassis construction: In steel, as part of monocoque
Dimensions:
Length: 4490mm Width: 1700mm [b/]Height:[/b] 1377mm Wheelbase: 2609mm Front track: 1450mm Rear track: 1466mm Weight: 1162Kg*
*Weight without driver and with half tank of fuel
08-08-2006, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Simon@FF
Fair play, Mike, but you clearly have too much spare time on your hands!
Given me a few pointers to rip off for my own car, anyway.
08-08-2006, 03:02 PM
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just buy your saph back off justin and start from there. some of the work already done, you know the history of car, and start from where you left off!!
price of build now halved!
price of build now halved!
08-08-2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by seand
just buy your saph back off justin and start from there. some of the work already done, you know the history of car, and start from where you left off!!
price of build now halved!
price of build now halved!
?
08-08-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
To be honest, I'd probably look at a 7 or something......
Those 6 TMEs are a little too tacky for my liking, especially when stickered up
Those 6 TMEs are a little too tacky for my liking, especially when stickered up
08-08-2006, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by seand
just buy your saph back off justin and start from there. some of the work already done, you know the history of car, and start from where you left off!!
price of build now halved!
price of build now halved!
?
08-08-2006, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Maybe you could make it a little cheaper by having a 3 grand tall block engine in it mike?
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08-08-2006, 04:24 PM
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Well,
Ithink my new SIG tells you what ive got, and yes, that is the car, pick it up a week saturday can`t wait
only 13000 miles 2 owner car..............
Please don`t all start slagging me off
i`m still a ford lover, just fancied a change..........
Anyone got a spare place on a stand@ National day?????
Ithink my new SIG tells you what ive got, and yes, that is the car, pick it up a week saturday can`t wait
only 13000 miles 2 owner car..............
Please don`t all start slagging me off
i`m still a ford lover, just fancied a change.......... Anyone got a spare place on a stand@ National day?????
08-08-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
Well,
Ithink my new SIG tells you what ive got, and yes, that is the car, pick it up a week saturday can`t wait
only 13000 miles 2 owner car..............
Please don`t all start slagging me off i`m still a ford lover, just fancied a change..........
Anyone got a spare place on a stand@ National day?????
Ithink my new SIG tells you what ive got, and yes, that is the car, pick it up a week saturday can`t wait
only 13000 miles 2 owner car..............
Please don`t all start slagging me off
i`m still a ford lover, just fancied a change.......... Anyone got a spare place on a stand@ National day?????
08-08-2006, 04:33 PM
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Think I should take you round in the 3dr to pick it up next week
We can have a play on the way back
Who's gonna win.......white or red
Leigh
We can have a play on the way back
Who's gonna win.......white or red
Leigh
REDDDDDDDDD
