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Old 20-07-2006 | 11:32 AM
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Old 20-07-2006 | 12:21 PM
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That is a NC30 (VFR400R) NOT an RC30 (VFR750R).
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:01 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong

Look at the seat unit, the aftermarket rear wheel, the Ohlins rear shock, the size of the rear downpipes, the smashed fairing (composite, not plastic).

Take it from someone who has serviced hundreds of NC30s (and a couple of RC30s). That is an RC30
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KA ZETEC
How about one of these a NR 750 HONDA

cost Ł32,000 when new

Stephen hendrey has one

http://www.sportbikez.net/pictures/mod/nr750

Now this was special engineering,

8 valves per cylinder
ovual pistons

A member on PF has a brother who has an NR750
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong

Look at the seat unit, the aftermarket rear wheel, the Ohlins rear shock, the size of the rear downpipes, the smashed fairing (fibreglass, not plastic).

Take it from someone who has serviced hundreds of NC30s (and a couple of RC30s). That is an RC30
Surely the exhaust and back tyre are both too small for an RC30?
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I'd bet good money that's a 180 section tyre and that's also a pretty meaty aftermarket system
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong

Look at the seat unit, the aftermarket rear wheel, the Ohlins rear shock, the size of the rear downpipes, the smashed fairing (fibreglass, not plastic).

Take it from someone who has serviced hundreds of NC30s (and a couple of RC30s). That is an RC30
Yep deffo its a 30
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I'd bet good money that's a 180 section tyre and that's also a pretty meaty aftermarket system
fair enough, you're probably in a better position to judge it than me. Just both look a little small to me. could just be perspective/angle or whatever.
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I'd bet good money that's a 180 section tyre and that's also a pretty meaty aftermarket system
170 max they didn't do 18 inch 180 sections back then
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam
Originally Posted by gurnE
I'd bet good money that's a 180 section tyre and that's also a pretty meaty aftermarket system
170 max they didn't do 18 inch 180 sections back then
*edited*
Doh its got a Marvic 17 in it
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:54 PM
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to Mike

R1's are fast mate scares me

Was gonna get the RC30...still might as i dont use the R1 much so the Honda would be an investment
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
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R1's are fast mate scares me

Was gonna get the RC30...still might as i dont use the R1 much so the Honda would be an investment
If you are after a minter RC30 gimme a shout as I know where one is for sale
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:56 PM
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check out the bike neville's!
Old 20-07-2006 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
check out the bike neville's!
Old 20-07-2006 | 04:03 PM
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I want a supermoto myself but i've been banned from getting a roadbike
Old 20-07-2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
I want a supermoto myself but i've been banned from getting a roadbike
another gf/wife that wears the trousers is it?
Old 20-07-2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Originally Posted by 89XR2
I want a supermoto myself but i've been banned from getting a roadbike
another gf/wife that wears the trousers is it?
Nah, my mum before she died and my dad. i wouldnt do what my girlfriend or wife if I had one told me
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Well according to ALL the motorcycle forums you're in the minority in thinking it is an RC30 . According to the police, they have it down as an RC45 .

They are aftermaket wheels, aftermarket exhaust, aftermarket suspension and crucially an aftermarket seat hump - if it was a genuine RC30 seat hump, it would have a screw in the very corner where it meets the frame - you can see clearly what I mean from the genuine one . You can clearly see that this has a non-genuine race seat (fitted to an NC30 ). So stick that in your pipes .

Who in their right mind would do this to an RC30, if you were to modify one, you would use all the Honda Racing parts or risk devaluing it . If that WAS an RC30, then I'm a space man.
Old 20-07-2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Well according to ALL the motorcycle forums you're in the minority in thinking it is an RC30 . According to the police, they have it down as an RC45 .

They are aftermaket wheels, aftermarket exhaust, aftermarket suspension and crucially an aftermarket seat hump - if it was a genuine RC30 seat hump, it would have a screw in the very corner where it meets the frame - you can see clearly what I mean from the genuine one . You can clearly see that this has a non-genuine race seat (fitted to an NC30 ). So stick that in your pipes .

Who in their right mind would do this to an RC30, if you were to modify one, you would use all the Honda Racing parts or risk devaluing it . If that WAS an RC30, then I'm a space man.
A screw where now?

http://rc30.jp/images/rc30_bm_l.JPG

(Don't be confused by the small headlights, that's a Jap spec RC30, not an NC30)

The seat unit is held on by three screws each side.

I've never seen an RC30 modded using HRC parts

I've also never seen an aftermarket NC30 single seat unit with the two recesses on the top of the seat unit.

I think the more relevant question is who would spend that much money modifying an NC30.

It's far more likely that that's an RC30 with paintjob, rear wheel, Ohlins shock and exhaust (the mods pretty much every RC30 owner will do bar the paint)

When's your next launch?
Old 20-07-2006 | 04:52 PM
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The first pics are at a show where the filth had 'reassembled' the crash.

Here's a pic from the crash site



There's a car driver that won't pull out on a motorcycle again
Old 20-07-2006 | 04:58 PM
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Actually now i actually take the pictures seriously (as i was just enjoying the 007 to rainbird )

It is an NC30..and GurnE i am shocked how you cant tell

Look on the seat unit where it meets the frame..note the cut out...only the NC30 has that...
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The corner of the seat hump in front of the seat where it meats the frame has a screw to attach it on a GENUINE seat hump, but on this aftermarket pattern item it does not . It's an NC30 that someone has TRIED to make look like an RC30 . Given also that he had JUST passed his test, how the fuck was he going to insure a modded RC30 - it would be hard enough on an ickle NC30 for someone who had just passed their test ?
Old 20-07-2006 | 05:00 PM
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Mike mine is a much better
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Actually now i actually take the pictures seriously (as i was just enjoying the 007 to rainbird )

It is an NC30..and GurnE i am shocked how you cant tell

Look on the seat unit where it meets the frame..note the cut out...only the NC30 has that...

Wrong

Old 20-07-2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The corner of the seat hump in front of the seat where it meats the frame has a screw to attach it on a GENUINE seat hump, but on this aftermarket pattern item it does not . It's an NC30 that someone has TRIED to make look like an RC30 . Given also that he had JUST passed his test, how the fuck was he going to insure a modded RC30 - it would be hard enough on an ickle NC30 for someone who had just passed their test ?
Both the RC30 and NC30 have three screws on each side. One on the subframe and two onto the frame.

Whether the bike is an RC or NC is would still use those three mounting bolts.
That seat has obviously just ripped away from it's mounting.

Throwing it into a car at 100mph+ will do that
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A to me
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Yep Phil,
WRONG, the NC is the only one that has a second cut out below the rear seat.

However, I am pointing out the screw in FRONT of the cut-out in the picture Gurn-e has posted is NOT there on the crashed bike (due to it being a pattern part ).

And in ripping away from the fairing mount it has also miraculously sealed up the hole as well .
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Actually now i actually take the pictures seriously (as i was just enjoying the 007 to rainbird )

It is an NC30..and GurnE i am shocked how you cant tell

Look on the seat unit where it meets the frame..note the cut out...only the NC30 has that...

Wrong


That brings back memories

(not just of Phil being a but also of the VFR400 i used to have about a decade ago when i was thin enough for it to be worth riding a 400)


Awesome bikes, really enjoyed mine
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Fucking hell Chip did it MOVE with you on it?
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Fucking hell Chip did it MOVE with you on it?
Yes mate, i didnt have you stalking me so closely that you would have been on the pillion seat at the time like now, so i could get away with it only being a little engine back then.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
And in ripping away from the fairing mount it has also miraculously sealed up the hole as well .
That's a 2D image of a 3D object and the inside of the hole is going to be painted green just like the surrounding panel ergo from that distance you won't be able to see it.

Mute point anyway as regardless of whether it's an NC or RC they would both have the same three mounting points each side

Old 20-07-2006 | 06:34 PM
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arhhh you just can't beat them, my best bike all round was my little nc 29 baby blade


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So I was right then?
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Is that check mate to Gurne? Or is it only match point?
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In the one of the pictures, you can CLEARLY see that there is NO hole .

Why would it have pulled away at that point IF it had have been attached ?

I'm STILL right - NC30.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
In the one of the pictures, you can CLEARLY see that there is NO hole .
Your argument makes no sense!

Both bikes have the same mounting points on the seat units!!!

So even if there is no hole (which there is, you just can't make it out ), that still proves nothing.........lol

Look:

NC30


RC30


Notice how both bikes have two bolts securing the seat unit to the frame?

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Why would it have pulled away at that point IF it had have been attached ?
It's just been thrown into a golf at over 100mph

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I'm STILL right - NC30.
Face it, you're wrong
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I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree .

1. No-one would deface an RC30 in such away.
2. No-one who had just passed their test would be riding an RC30.
3. However, NC30s are REGULARLY bought by beginners.
4. You're .
5. So is anyone else who believes that is an RC30 (especially Cam ) .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree .

1. No-one would deface an RC30 in such away.
2. No-one who had just passed their test would be riding an RC30.
3. However, NC30s are REGULARLY bought by beginners.
4. You're .
5. So is anyone else who believes that is an RC30 (especially Cam ) .
We will

1. I don't see how race paint, system, ohlins shock, aftermarket wheels etc is defacing especially as there are a lot of ex-race bike RC30's out there on the road that have been 'tidied up' in such a manner by their owners

2. Where are you getting this 'just passed their test' nonsense from?
Internet conjecture imo. Stick to the facts (The picture of the RC30 )

3. See 1

4. That was just a phase. You said you wouldn't say anything.

5. No argument there
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No, not conjecture, it was shown at the Swedish Motorcycle Fair (the display was jointly produced by the Swedish Police and Road Safety department)

All three involved (two in car and rider) were killed instantly. This graphic demonstration was placed at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety Department. The sign above the display also noted that the rider had only recently obtained his license.


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