PC Question - What can't cope?
14-08-2004, 12:42 PM
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PC Question - What can't cope?
Recently upgraded the PC, runs pretty well, except when I play Generals online, every 5 mins or so it goes REALLY slow for about 2 minutes then it is back to it's fast self. Which is rather annoying, especially for the bloke I am pounding into the ground 
Spec is;
3.0 Pentium 4 with a 3.5 P4 fan and heatsink
1 gig RAM
GeForce FX5200 256mb Graphics card
Is that graphics card letting the rest down?
CheeRS
Spec is;
3.0 Pentium 4 with a 3.5 P4 fan and heatsink
1 gig RAM
GeForce FX5200 256mb Graphics card
Is that graphics card letting the rest down?
CheeRS
14-08-2004, 01:03 PM
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All I got open is MSN and Outlook. From what I can remember it runs fine, or at least better when playing a Skirmish against the computer (not online).
14-08-2004, 01:06 PM
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msn is lagging you and no your card aint a 256 
The chip NV30 NV30 Ultra NV31 NV31 Ultra NV34 NV34 Ultra
Name FX 5800 FX 5600 FX 5200
Process technology, mk 0.13 0.13 0.15
Q-ty of transistors, mln 125 75 45
Pixel pipelines 4 2 2
Texture units 8 4 4
Core speed, MHz 400 500 300 350 250 325
Memory bus speed, MHz 800 1000 500 700 400 650
Memory bus, bit 128 (DDR II) 128 (DDR) 128 (DDR)
RAMDAC, Mhz 2х400 2х400 2х400
Additional power Mandatory Advisable Optional
The chip NV30 NV30 Ultra NV31 NV31 Ultra NV34 NV34 Ultra
Name FX 5800 FX 5600 FX 5200
Process technology, mk 0.13 0.13 0.15
Q-ty of transistors, mln 125 75 45
Pixel pipelines 4 2 2
Texture units 8 4 4
Core speed, MHz 400 500 300 350 250 325
Memory bus speed, MHz 800 1000 500 700 400 650
Memory bus, bit 128 (DDR II) 128 (DDR) 128 (DDR)
RAMDAC, Mhz 2х400 2х400 2х400
Additional power Mandatory Advisable Optional
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14-08-2004, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz
Generals does that during multiplayer, nothing to do with hardware.
The bloke I was playing online with was complaining about my PC slowing his down, because he knew when it was going slow my end, is he talking shit?
14-08-2004, 01:14 PM
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GAINWARD GeForce FX5200, 256MB DDR, 8x AGP DVI TV-Out Retail Box
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=52249
"The Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Pro680 TV/DVI is a fast GeForce FX 5200 based board with 256 MB of fast DDR, Video-Out, and a DVI connector plus DVI/VGA adapters for utmost display flexibility"
Rudey 
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"The Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Pro680 TV/DVI is a fast GeForce FX 5200 based board with 256 MB of fast DDR, Video-Out, and a DVI connector plus DVI/VGA adapters for utmost display flexibility"
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14-08-2004, 01:14 PM
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Me and a few mates used to play it over a 10mb LAN, all with reasonable PCs and it still did it. It seemed worse on 3rd party maps, ones which came with the game worked ok.
Your PC is more than capable of running Generals, he's talking out of his arse.
Your PC is more than capable of running Generals, he's talking out of his arse.
14-08-2004, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz
Your PC is more than capable of running Generals, he's talking out of his arse.
Phil - I did think about it could be his, because mine loaded faster at the start, but then when he was destroyed I carried on playing for a bit and it still did it. Which made me think it is either my PC, or the server/ connection.
Thanks for the help guys
14-08-2004, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by * Rudey *
what net connection you got? msn will slow you dont and every other net based programe just exit em all befor playing and try that 
What card would you recommend then, as a future upgrade?
14-08-2004, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Wooo. Information overload
Maybe I will give the link to Andy or Dan and get them to digest it for me. Thanks anyway
Maybe I will give the link to Andy or Dan and get them to digest it for me. Thanks anyway
TT Your graphics card will prob be fine for a while m8 then see whats on the market in a years time. They always make something new thats hot and bigger and better than the last one, then the last one's price drops like a stone
14-08-2004, 02:38 PM
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depends on how good a speed connection the sever has got as well ..
IE if the sever has got a shit con then no matter how good you pc/con is your gonna lag @ some time in the game .......
IE if the sever has got a shit con then no matter how good you pc/con is your gonna lag @ some time in the game .......
14-08-2004, 03:09 PM
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rudey, since when has MSN made a noticeable effect on online gaming? lol
even ona 14.4k modem it shouldnt have any effect when sitting there running normally, the overhead is TINY for msn...
even ona 14.4k modem it shouldnt have any effect when sitting there running normally, the overhead is TINY for msn...
15-08-2004, 10:05 AM
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well for starters one individual cant lag the whole server...
(not in any modern game anyway) howefver if one person has an appauling ping then it can APPEAR to go tits up as any updates from the player are received at long intervals so their movement isnt smooth.
also to understand why MSN wont lag the game youve got to understand how packet based netwoprk protocols work (ie TCPIP) then when you look at exactly what data MSN is sending/receiving and exacly what bandwith the game needs to send/receive then you see that it wont affect anything...
or worse case scenario you'll get another say 10ms or so when someone logs in for a moment or something...
(not in any modern game anyway) howefver if one person has an appauling ping then it can APPEAR to go tits up as any updates from the player are received at long intervals so their movement isnt smooth.
also to understand why MSN wont lag the game youve got to understand how packet based netwoprk protocols work (ie TCPIP) then when you look at exactly what data MSN is sending/receiving and exacly what bandwith the game needs to send/receive then you see that it wont affect anything...
or worse case scenario you'll get another say 10ms or so when someone logs in for a moment or something...
15-08-2004, 12:34 PM
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I think I know what the problem is.
The graphics card is getting too hot when playing on latge maps against alot of teams and when alot starts happening it bogs down. I took the side of the case off last night it dropped 3c in temp and ran a bit better. Looks like a need a decent cooler for the gfx card.
Thanks for your help guys.
The graphics card is getting too hot when playing on latge maps against alot of teams and when alot starts happening it bogs down. I took the side of the case off last night it dropped 3c in temp and ran a bit better. Looks like a need a decent cooler for the gfx card.
Thanks for your help guys.
15-08-2004, 02:18 PM
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taking the side off the case should not aid cooling (unless its a REALLY wank case) infact you'll normally find that it runs cooler with the case properly sealed (again, thats if the case is half decent, and also providing its not trapped in a corner or anything daft)
its to do with how air flows thru it n hit, but i cant be arsed to go into great detail about why that is...
its to do with how air flows thru it n hit, but i cant be arsed to go into great detail about why that is...
15-08-2004, 05:50 PM
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yeah i had this prob took side off case it interupts the airflow from back thus overheatin just got my new card http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...k_Only_25.html
they recon the xt the 1 ive been waiting for is gonna be cancelled so fuk it got this
they recon the xt the 1 ive been waiting for is gonna be cancelled so fuk it got this
15-08-2004, 06:10 PM
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radion 9700 pro thatwas 350 2 years ago but its fooked now keeps goin on melt down and the graphics are better on a zx spectrum or jims had to buy it yasee but its lasted well i always buy with a veiw to the future if it wasnt faulty it would handle all games out now like the x800 i wont need to bother with another card for yonks
had to buy it yasee but its lasted well i always buy with a veiw to the future if it wasnt faulty it would handle all games out now like the x800 i wont need to bother with another card for yonks