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05-07-2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Richie Russ
Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
MWF you appear to be a martar for a lost cause, people are only reacting over the top due to the length of time this country has just sat back and ignored the problem.
I admit England isnt agreat place but its still our home, and people have no write to cum hear and tell us to change the status quo. We are, some will say a soft touch others will say we should let people enter our country, but only those that are truely worthy of our open arms, not people looking for an easy and free ride like 90% of immagrants.
People have a right to be upset as immmagrants are leggally allowed to only seek refuage in the first country they cross, not the 10th.
The country is heading for a change and by the way MWF statistics show that by 2040, whites will be a minority!!!
I admit England isnt agreat place but its still our home, and people have no write to cum hear and tell us to change the status quo. We are, some will say a soft touch others will say we should let people enter our country, but only those that are truely worthy of our open arms, not people looking for an easy and free ride like 90% of immagrants.
People have a right to be upset as immmagrants are leggally allowed to only seek refuage in the first country they cross, not the 10th.
The country is heading for a change and by the way MWF statistics show that by 2040, whites will be a minority!!!
05-07-2006, 11:36 AM
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LOL you pair don't even know what you are arguing about anymore, this thread started about Muslims not immigrants.[/quote]
And look at what you have written on your website with all of 2 replies from who have totally avoided the topic you posted, titled....
''A Country Ripe With Racism''
I am totally shocked by what I am reading on places like PassionFord recently. Occasionally one member will read something in the Sunm which focuses around Muslims and suddenly it turns in the KKK on there.
It's been like that for a few years now but what I find truely worrying is that it seems to be getting worse and not better. And this causes a vicous circle where because there's all this racist hate then other people comphensate for it and it all comes round again.
I've just been told by one member of PassionFord that Muslims are going to take over the country.
So not only are you slagging off passionford members on your ahem, website, even they are totally ignoring the topic as they probably agree with what has been said but didn't want to not support you
Like i said to you, its soooo easy for people to be branded racist and you've just proved that
You have your views, other will have theirs
And look at what you have written on your website with all of 2 replies from who have totally avoided the topic you posted, titled....
''A Country Ripe With Racism''
I am totally shocked by what I am reading on places like PassionFord recently. Occasionally one member will read something in the Sunm which focuses around Muslims and suddenly it turns in the KKK on there.
It's been like that for a few years now but what I find truely worrying is that it seems to be getting worse and not better. And this causes a vicous circle where because there's all this racist hate then other people comphensate for it and it all comes round again.
I've just been told by one member of PassionFord that Muslims are going to take over the country.
So not only are you slagging off passionford members on your ahem, website, even they are totally ignoring the topic as they probably agree with what has been said but didn't want to not support you
Like i said to you, its soooo easy for people to be branded racist and you've just proved that
You have your views, other will have theirs
05-07-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Richie Russ
LOL you pair don't even know what you are arguing about anymore, this thread started about Muslims not immigrants.
''A Country Ripe With Racism''
I am totally shocked by what I am reading on places like PassionFord recently. Occasionally one member will read something in the Sunm which focuses around Muslims and suddenly it turns in the KKK on there.
It's been like that for a few years now but what I find truely worrying is that it seems to be getting worse and not better. And this causes a vicous circle where because there's all this racist hate then other people comphensate for it and it all comes round again.
I've just been told by one member of PassionFord that Muslims are going to take over the country.
I am totally shocked by what I am reading on places like PassionFord recently. Occasionally one member will read something in the Sunm which focuses around Muslims and suddenly it turns in the KKK on there.
It's been like that for a few years now but what I find truely worrying is that it seems to be getting worse and not better. And this causes a vicous circle where because there's all this racist hate then other people comphensate for it and it all comes round again.
I've just been told by one member of PassionFord that Muslims are going to take over the country.
Like i said to you, its soooo easy for people to be branded racist and you've just proved that
Not slagging off all PassionFord members though am I
05-07-2006, 11:40 AM
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MWF if one conversation stayed on the same topic it would be borin abit like your views, why dont you look at it like this, this conversation is evolving, exacly the same as our society is evolving, but unfortunatly they are both heading down hill
P.S its good to see other peoples opinions on such things, and having an open mind migth make u post more effectively
P.S its good to see other peoples opinions on such things, and having an open mind migth make u post more effectively
05-07-2006, 11:42 AM
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who cares what flags they say you can't fly?
if you want to fly the flag, no matter who's country it is, you should be able to
i've got a fairly big orange flag i wave about on occasion, andi've never had a problem when i've ben marching down the road in the middle of the night with it fluttering around me earholes
also, as a side note, the union "jack" is only called the union "jack when it is hung from the "jack" mast on a ship, if it's blwingin the wind on anything else it's called the union flag, and, as others have already rightly pointed out, what happens to the countries that have this flag as part of their national flags?
one mroe thing, countries tend to be run by cnuts
if you want to fly the flag, no matter who's country it is, you should be able to
i've got a fairly big orange flag i wave about on occasion, andi've never had a problem when i've ben marching down the road in the middle of the night with it fluttering around me earholes
also, as a side note, the union "jack" is only called the union "jack when it is hung from the "jack" mast on a ship, if it's blwingin the wind on anything else it's called the union flag, and, as others have already rightly pointed out, what happens to the countries that have this flag as part of their national flags?
one mroe thing, countries tend to be run by cnuts
Not really intrested who it offends to be honest, its my flag and I'll do what the fuck I like with it.
05-07-2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
MWF if one conversation stayed on the same topic it would be borin abit like your views, why dont you look at it like this, this conversation is evolving, exacly the same as our society is evolving, but unfortunatly they are both heading down hill
P.S its good to see other peoples opinions on such things, and having an open mind migth make u post more effectively
P.S its good to see other peoples opinions on such things, and having an open mind migth make u post more effectively
Evolving would be when people bring facts and their own new opinions to the table.
All I see in this thread is stereotyping, assumptions and a mob mentality against Muslims, immagrants or anyone else people like to round up into their hate campaign.
05-07-2006, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Richie Russ
You're branding us racists , you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out
, you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out I'm glad you find me so fascinating
05-07-2006, 11:59 AM
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but my firend it is eveolving, you are to quick to assume that all evolution is going forward and positive, however if we look back through history, you can see examples of when de-evolution is for the best
not all change is good, im nto a racist, im well educated and even brought up in dover, im 22 so i have experianced these things and things need to change
free cars, free phone cards free housign to immmagrants, the reason why muslims and immagrants have been compared is because muslims are acting the same as immagrants, demanding these selfish things and it is out of order as they came to this country, and now want it to be like their parents country
thats why people are eveolving this conversation into immgration mate
not all change is good, im nto a racist, im well educated and even brought up in dover, im 22 so i have experianced these things and things need to change
free cars, free phone cards free housign to immmagrants, the reason why muslims and immagrants have been compared is because muslims are acting the same as immagrants, demanding these selfish things and it is out of order as they came to this country, and now want it to be like their parents country
thats why people are eveolving this conversation into immgration mate
05-07-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by Richie Russ
You're branding us racists , you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out
, you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out I'm glad you find me so fascinating
The agenda here is the fact that you are branding people racist which is far too easy and common nowadays, you are talking about keeping racial tension to a minimum yet you post such things on your site, and it's people like you raising the tension.
Tbh, im not a racist, i employ Polish people
because they work hard and i pay them well, i have know problems with that from ANYONE, but im fucked off with all these people coming here who arent worth a cup of cold stuff, trying to change the way we live in OUR country, we have too many dossers of our own here already claiming gawd knows how much money each month for having 7 kids by 7 different women, get your own house in order before you start trying to help every other Tom, Dick and Mohammed / Henryk....(<---------- insert foreign name here) thats all im saying Im not going to turn this thread into a huge argument, just wanted to put my point forward.
***Try and understand what we are saying, its not about being racist***
05-07-2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by john
Also recall a town in Yorkshire took down it's crimbo baners etc as muslims complained and put them up in there languages.
Sounds to me like they are more concerned with getting rid of a flag that has white on it. It's fucking ridiculous.
05-07-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie Russ
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by Richie Russ
You're branding us racists , you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out
, you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out I'm glad you find me so fascinating
The agenda here is the fact that you are branding people racist which is far too easy and common nowadays, you are talking about keeping racial tension to a minimum yet you post such things on your site, and it's people like you raising the tension.
Tbh, im not a racist, i employ Polish people
because they work hard and i pay them well, i have know problems with that from ANYONE, but im fucked off with all these people coming here who arent worth a cup of cold stuff, trying to change the way we live in OUR country, we have too many dossers of our own here already claiming gawd knows how much money each month for having 7 kids by 7 different women, get your own house in order before you start trying to help every other Tom, Dick and Mohammed / Henryk....(<---------- insert foreign name here) thats all im saying Im not going to turn this thread into a huge argument, just wanted to put my point forward.
***Try and understand what we are saying, its not about being racist***
I appologise for branding you a racist.
And I do agree with many of your points and respect your concerns but it seems to me your beef is moreso with political issues with benefits and immigration control, not with Muslims in general.
I do think there are many things that need sorting out in this country but I do not see any reason why we shouldn't stop offending people when we know we are.
We all have a right to do a lot of things but we restrain from many of them on the basis of not offending people. If someone wants to stop doing something, in this case flying a flag which is deemed offensive by some, then so be it. If someone wants to rent a themepark for a day for their own use then fair play.
Now if you are forced to do it then a line is being crossed.
05-07-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by Richie Russ
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by Richie Russ
You're branding us racists , you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out
, you're not being stalked mate, trust me, i was just interested in what other crap you spout out I'm glad you find me so fascinating
The agenda here is the fact that you are branding people racist which is far too easy and common nowadays, you are talking about keeping racial tension to a minimum yet you post such things on your site, and it's people like you raising the tension.
Tbh, im not a racist, i employ Polish people
because they work hard and i pay them well, i have know problems with that from ANYONE, but im fucked off with all these people coming here who arent worth a cup of cold stuff, trying to change the way we live in OUR country, we have too many dossers of our own here already claiming gawd knows how much money each month for having 7 kids by 7 different women, get your own house in order before you start trying to help every other Tom, Dick and Mohammed / Henryk....(<---------- insert foreign name here) thats all im saying Im not going to turn this thread into a huge argument, just wanted to put my point forward.
***Try and understand what we are saying, its not about being racist***
I appologise for branding you a racist.
And I do agree with many of your points and respect your concerns but it seems to me your beef is moreso with political issues with benefits and immigration control, not with Muslims in general.
I do think there are many things that need sorting out in this country but I do not see any reason why we shouldn't stop offending people when we know we are.
We all have a right to do a lot of things but we restrain from many of them on the basis of not offending people. If someone wants to stop doing something, in this case flying a flag which is deemed offensive by some, then so be it. If someone wants to rent a themepark for a day for their own use then fair play.
Now if you are forced to do it then a line is being crossed.
Fair point, the reason i have said what i did because firstly the thread was about the St George cross which i posted on, i.e 'whatever next' the thing that got my back up was the usual racist post about people on here, which we see time and time again and i was justifying what myself and probably a lot of others thought, lets let it be and let the thread continue
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Can we get back to the point thats its not muslims that want to change the flag its some religious cunt Rev philip Chester from the church of england who THINKS thats muslims MIGHT be offened by it .
Again religion causing yet more arguments sooner we get rid of it the better
Again religion causing yet more arguments sooner we get rid of it the better
05-07-2006, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
who cares what flags they say you can't fly?
if you want to fly the flag, no matter who's country it is, you should be able to
i've got a fairly big orange flag i wave about on occasion, andi've never had a problem when i've ben marching down the road in the middle of the night with it fluttering around me earholes
also, as a side note, the union "jack" is only called the union "jack when it is hung from the "jack" mast on a ship, if it's blwingin the wind on anything else it's called the union flag, and, as others have already rightly pointed out, what happens to the countries that have this flag as part of their national flags?
one mroe thing, countries tend to be run by cnuts
if you want to fly the flag, no matter who's country it is, you should be able to
i've got a fairly big orange flag i wave about on occasion, andi've never had a problem when i've ben marching down the road in the middle of the night with it fluttering around me earholes
also, as a side note, the union "jack" is only called the union "jack when it is hung from the "jack" mast on a ship, if it's blwingin the wind on anything else it's called the union flag, and, as others have already rightly pointed out, what happens to the countries that have this flag as part of their national flags?
one mroe thing, countries tend to be run by cnuts
Not really intrested who it offends to be honest, its my flag and I'll do what the fuck I like with it.
it's an amalgamation of a few flags so if you take away one of the key ingredients what aer you left with?
you've got the paint, you've got the brush, you have even got the talane,t but you have no canvas to put it all together so it's just sitting there doing nothing
what they should be doing is not worrying about about st albans or st george or st paul and start worrying about what they are going to to about celebrating the actual fact that we have a national day and no fucker makes it official
ffs, we have every other day turned into a national insituation so why not st georges?
you have st pats, which is probably the biggest thing of the year other than cristmas, you have the rest of us who celebrate visakhi or eid or divali or which ever group of people support whatever particula deity, but no one can stand up and say "hang on, why is no one making a fuss about st g's day?"
it's like everyone in any position of authrity is ashamed to have it and do their utmost to hide it away like an ugly relative at a wedding
05-07-2006, 12:32 PM
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Can we get back to the point thats its not muslims that want to change the flag its some religious cunt Rev philip Chester from the church of england who THINKS thats muslims MIGHT be offened by it .
Again religion causing yet more arguments sooner we get rid of it the better
Again religion causing yet more arguments sooner we get rid of it the better
05-07-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
it's like everyone in any position of authrity is ashamed to have it and do their utmost to hide it away like an ugly relative at a wedding
Ironically he was half Turkish and half Palistinian.
05-07-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
it's like everyone in any position of authrity is ashamed to have it and do their utmost to hide it away like an ugly relative at a wedding
Ironically he was half Turkish and half Palistinian.
i bet it was one of them notrodamus type sorts who kew this was going to happen in the year 2006 and didn't tell anyone
06-07-2006, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by dojj
it's like everyone in any position of authrity is ashamed to have it and do their utmost to hide it away like an ugly relative at a wedding
Ironically he was half Turkish and half Palistinian.
i bet it was one of them notrodamus type sorts who kew this was going to happen in the year 2006 and didn't tell anyone
06-07-2006, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by dojj
it's like everyone in any position of authrity is ashamed to have it and do their utmost to hide it away like an ugly relative at a wedding
Ironically he was half Turkish and half Palistinian.
i bet it was one of them notrodamus type sorts who kew this was going to happen in the year 2006 and didn't tell anyone
he's some bloke who's been there for ages and ages and some twart want's to get rid of him because "it's something to do"
look at the things they covered up to leave jebidiha springfield as a right and honerable figurehead of springfield
07-07-2006, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
look at the things they covered up to leave jebidiha springfield as a right and honerable figurehead of springfield
08-07-2006, 08:17 PM
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well i for one am VERY proud of the st georges cross and our government was ALSO very proud of it and as so uses it as a award for galantry and as such we awarded malta the st georges cross for there bravery and general sticking with us in the second world war and as a result ALL variations on there flags have a st george cross on it not to mention there MAIN flag has the actual cross on it
they also celebrate st georges day there too UNLIKE THIS FUCKING COUNTRY WHO CELEBRATE ST PATRICKS NIGHT 
we need to remember what our history was and thats what made our tiny island what we are,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT we are being concoured in a indirect way and loosing our identity
infact its a fucking joke that a place we awarded our highest honour respects it more than the country who gave it
and the bnp used the union flag and not the george cross !!!!!
i for one will NEVER look that flag and i personaly would rahter loose the union flag tbh
theres nothing worse that hearing a fucking scotsman hating england soo much even though he lives here and when you ask him to fick back of the reply is " united kindom mate"
theres a bloke i know thats made his money in london and now is going to move bacl to scotland cause he dont was his son to talk like a english person
now if the scots can think like that then just imagine what other countrys think
they also celebrate st georges day there too UNLIKE THIS FUCKING COUNTRY WHO CELEBRATE ST PATRICKS NIGHT
we need to remember what our history was and thats what made our tiny island what we are,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT we are being concoured in a indirect way and loosing our identity
infact its a fucking joke that a place we awarded our highest honour respects it more than the country who gave it
and the bnp used the union flag and not the george cross !!!!!
i for one will NEVER look that flag and i personaly would rahter loose the union flag tbh
theres nothing worse that hearing a fucking scotsman hating england soo much even though he lives here and when you ask him to fick back of the reply is " united kindom mate"
theres a bloke i know thats made his money in london and now is going to move bacl to scotland cause he dont was his son to talk like a english person
now if the scots can think like that then just imagine what other countrys think
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