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Old 29-06-2006, 03:29 PM
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Gerrard better than Lampard, Gerrard has a natrual gift Lampard has to work at his
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I vote we put Cam in midfield....see if he can create enough chances to miss in the first place

As said, someone else won't be flavour of the week after the next match.
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the problem i see here, there was way too much hype in the run up to this World Cup, "best chance we've ever had" blah blah

and now we ain't setting the world on fire with free flowing football everyone is saying how crap we are

the fact is, every team bar Sweden we've played have done so with 10 men behind the ball, not easy to break down for anyone!!

Lampard has been getting into the spaces, and has come VERY close in a few occassions, it's only a matter of time before he scores imo, you can't leave a player of that caliber out, just like Beckham. All it takes is a moment of genuis to win a game
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
Gerrard is a great free kick taker and Lamps isn't shy.

I love Becks but is not offering enough all round for me right now.

We need PACE, Lennon must play
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Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
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Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
his goal against Ecuador is reason enough for me, we would have struggled through extra time otherwise
Any other CLASS keeper would of kept that out! He's too predictable!
So tell me when his last goal was?
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Gerrard better than Lampard, Gerrard has a natrual gift Lampard has to work at his
Frank Snr could do better
Old 29-06-2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Katie
I vote we put Cam in midfield....see if he can create enough chances to miss in the first place

As said, someone else won't be flavour of the week after the next match.
No doubt they'll blame the ref or summat
Old 29-06-2006, 03:32 PM
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totally agree with beckham being shit! I think carrick had a reasonably good game against equador dnt remember seing him lose the ball
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Originally Posted by Katie
I vote we put Cam in midfield.....
I'd rather stick my cock in a blender than don an England jersey!!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by Franco
Fuck off!

He's a good fucking club player, !
What part of 'more international goals than Gerrard' did you not understand??

Well said Dave by the way
WTF do goals have to do with it? Spoken by a true Chelsea fan! Get a grip.........If it wasnt for Gerrards back he'd be the BEST in the world period!

Ps Crouch has scored just as many, he's a bandy legged good for nothing cunt also! Doesnt mean i'd want him in my team!

I'd of taken Defoe - And i'm a gooner!
Old 29-06-2006, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by Franco
Fuck off!

He's a good fucking club player, !
What part of 'more international goals than Gerrard' did you not understand??

Well said Dave by the way
WTF do goals have to do with it? Spoken by a true Chelsea fan! Get a grip.........If it wasnt for Gerrards back he'd be the BEST in the world period!

Ps Crouch has scored just as many, he's a bandy legged good for nothing cunt also! Doesnt mean i'd want him in my team!

I'd of taken Defoe - And i'm a gooner!
goals win games, surely you can't argue that fact?
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
Gerrard is a great free kick taker and Lamps isn't shy.

I love Becks but is not offering enough all round for me right now.

We need PACE, Lennon must play
Lennon is a must and I reckon give the schoolboy a start as no fooker knows what he is like....even Svenster
Old 29-06-2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
Gerrard is a great free kick taker and Lamps isn't shy.

I love Becks but is not offering enough all round for me right now.

We need PACE, Lennon must play
but the team spirit beckham brings to us watching.. must transfer to the team also.. I deffo think he isnt quite yet ready to put out to pasture. He isnt the bang bang back of the net slag we'd love him to be.. but he's deffo instrumental in the build up of our centre mid! lets give him a few more games (well one.. i'll honestly be amazed if we get through Sat)

anyway, i think were all forgetting THE man of the England squad so far...

take a bow... Joe Cole
Old 29-06-2006, 03:36 PM
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So what about henry & france then...............



Best striker in the world, cant score for shite!

Anymore proof.
Old 29-06-2006, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
Gerrard is a great free kick taker and Lamps isn't shy.

I love Becks but is not offering enough all round for me right now.

We need PACE, Lennon must play
but the team spirit beckham brings to us watching.. must transfer to the team also.. I deffo think he isnt quite yet ready to put out to pasture. He isnt the bang bang back of the net slag we'd love him to be.. but he's deffo instrumental in the build up of our centre mid! lets give him a few more games (well one.. i'll honestly be amazed if we get through Sat)

anyway, i think were all forgetting THE man of the England squad so far...

take a bow... Joe Cole
Too fucking right there
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
anyway, i think were all forgetting THE man of the England squad so far...

take a bow... Joe Cole
i said before the tournament he'd be our man this summer

people moan he keeps the ball too long but he's been one of, if not the best player in the England team this tournament so far in my opinion
Old 29-06-2006, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
Can I have some of what you're on?

Beckham's days of pinpoint accuracy are a thing of the past....
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Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by Franco
Fuck off!

He's a good fucking club player, !
What part of 'more international goals than Gerrard' did you not understand??

Well said Dave by the way
WTF do goals have to do with it? Spoken by a true Chelsea fan! Get a grip.........If it wasnt for Gerrards back he'd be the BEST in the world period!

Ps Crouch has scored just as many, he's a bandy legged good for nothing cunt also! Doesnt mean i'd want him in my team!

I'd of taken Defoe - And i'm a gooner!
goals win games, surely you can't argue that fact?
So what about henry & france then...............



Best striker in the world, cant score for shite!

Anymore proof.
Old 29-06-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Gerrard better than Lampard, Gerrard has a natrual gift Lampard has to work at his
and your point is???
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..
Gerrard is a great free kick taker and Lamps isn't shy.

I love Becks but is not offering enough all round for me right now.

We need PACE, Lennon must play
but the team spirit beckham brings to us watching.. must transfer to the team also.. I deffo think he isnt quite yet ready to put out to pasture. He isnt the bang bang back of the net slag we'd love him to be.. but he's deffo instrumental in the build up of our centre mid! lets give him a few more games (well one.. i'll honestly be amazed if we get through Sat)

anyway, i think were all forgetting THE man of the England squad so far...

take a bow... Joe Cole
Agreed Becks has to play for morale if nothing else. Joe Cole has been the only England player that can be deemed as World class from his performance in Germany
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I think Ashley cole has been a good solid player touch wood hasnt made any ofhis usual mistakes
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fuck no's why he took walcott!!!!

no expierence wot so ever, went into the tournament wiv one fully fit, semi expierenced striker - crouch!!!

shd have taken defoe imo, has good pace and i think would link up well with rooney!!!

as for lampard, his a class act!!!

look at wot his dun for chelsea in the last few seasons, and at least his creatin the chances!!!

once he gets one, u wont b able to stop him
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at the end of the day, we can deliberate (argue?) as much as we like with our superior knowledge of tactical awareness and player scouting prowess but we already know what team Sven will pick

Beckham will play wide right, Lampard and Gerrard will both play though the middle, Rooney will be the lone striker and either Carrick or Hargreaves in the holding role depending on availability in the right back slot

in my opinion, i think we can turn it on Sunday and get the result we need against the Portugese and go to play France/Brazil, but then i've always been an optimist


and if Lampard scores i'll let the doubters know
Old 29-06-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
i think we can turn it on Sunday
You going to the Airport to meet them?
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becks is useless, he brings nothing to the team for me he cant go past anyone hes like a cart horse, he aint got the legs he used to have, his set pieces are average ,when he takes a corner it usually hits the first defender
i used to think becks was great but hes past it now , fair enough theres the 2 goals but whos to say we wouldnt have created loads more chances or goals with someone like lennon on the pitch ?
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DaveEscos wrote:
Beckhams pin point accuracy will be hard to replicate.. I deffo think he's worth keeping in the squad tbh..


Can I have some of what you're on? Surpris Surpris Surpris

Beckham's days of pinpoint accuracy are a thing of the past....

No accuracy in his goal on sunday
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Cos he plays for Chelsea mate & so is automatically brilliant every game & bit like John Terry. Terry's two cock-ups every game have to be overlooked cos he must be good as he plays for Chelsea.
Ive watched the games so far in Canada & they dont have such Bias, Blinkered views. They have noticed how dodgy Terry is .
They will have to improve to reach the semi's im afraid.

Still im spoilt I remember 1966, now that did have some great players .
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Cos he plays for Chelsea mate & so is automatically brilliant every game & bit like John Terry. Terry's two cock-ups every game have to be overlooked cos he must be good as he plays for Chelsea.
Ive watched the games so far in Canada & they dont have such Bias, Blinkered views. They have noticed how dodgy Terry is .
They will have to improve to reach the semi's im afraid.

Still im spoilt I remember 1966, now that did have some great players .
but weren't England pretty poor in the early games of '66? much like we have been so far in this tournament?

seems to be the general opinion of people who watched it at the time
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Originally Posted by Cam
Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
i think we can turn it on Sunday
You going to the Airport to meet them?
i meant Saturday
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Still im spoilt I remember 1966, now that did have some great players .
What was it like drinking with the players after the game rod?




























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Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
Originally Posted by Cam
Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
i think we can turn it on Sunday
You going to the Airport to meet them?
i meant Saturday
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Seriously.... we can knock individual players all day long, but in reality not one player has played to their true ability and have under-performed. Whether this is down to Sven's 'tactics' or our players aren't as good as we think they are, I don't think we'll ever know.

On paper, a team can have the best players in the world, but they have to gel together as a team and also have a top class manager, unfortunately England doesn't have a top class manager and won't have in McLaren either IMO.
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all this talk of lampards got more international goals than gerrard. the reason is gerrard sits and allows lampard to go forward, if stevie wasnt sat doing the defensive midfield role and was allowed to get forward, trust me he would out score lampard, stevie got 22 goals for liverpool last season, which i believe is more than lampard got for chelsea, plus stevie does the other jobs, like defend, pass, cross, and still has time to get 22 goals. imo lampard is not on the same planet as gerrard, stevie can do everything lampard can do and everything he cant. im not trying to put frank lampard down, he is one of the best in business at what he does, score goals from midfield, but that is all he does.
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the long and short of it is the whole team can't play together they may be brilliant for their clubs but when it comes to the international stage they can't perform as a solid unit
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Lets stop putting the guys down and get behind em!!!

COME ON ENGLAND!!!
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Whats weird here is this :

Last week before I went away to sea you were all 100% together and behind the team etc. And all slagging the socts.

Now, after 2 more games you're all taking them apart saying thier crap. Which is what I said last week!!

Thus proving, that no-one listens to me, even when I'm right
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Originally Posted by Rab
Whats weird here is this :

Last week before I went away to sea you were all 100% together and behind the team etc. And all slagging the socts.

Now, after 2 more games you're all taking them apart saying thier crap. Which is what I said last week!!

Thus proving, that no-one listens to me, even when I'm right
erhem...I said they were hyped up and would be very lucky to make it further than the qtr finals before the action started purely down to the fact the team is not good enough but most seem to be have taken in by the pre tournament media bullshit and seriously thought that England had a chance of winning the World Cup
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i agree with Franco, 5 man midfield with Lennon wide right is the way forward!

i'd play Beckham in the playmaker role he did so well at for Real 2 seasons ago
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LAMPARD IS A WANKER.......LAMPARD IS A WANKER....NA NA NA NA
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