The Clive the cossie saga continues!!!
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Ranj,
I'm sure it can be done for less than 3k, by someone who charges less labour.
SCC is vat registered company, and works as an independant garage. As such, it will charge more than someone who's working from home, as the labour rate is higher to compensate.
Imagine if you took your car to Ford for the work carried out. Our local dealer charges £85 per hour + vat. That's what they charge, plain and simple.
At the end of the day, the management swap was commented on by someone very good with electrics as being one of the best he'd seen. Could have paid a lot less, and that not been the case.............
I'm sure it can be done for less than 3k, by someone who charges less labour.
SCC is vat registered company, and works as an independant garage. As such, it will charge more than someone who's working from home, as the labour rate is higher to compensate.
Imagine if you took your car to Ford for the work carried out. Our local dealer charges £85 per hour + vat. That's what they charge, plain and simple.
At the end of the day, the management swap was commented on by someone very good with electrics as being one of the best he'd seen. Could have paid a lot less, and that not been the case.............
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Rob seems reasonable cheap so
to him.
Personally I like DIY, its more interesting but each to thier own.
I do think IMHO that £2600 was steep for a long block, but maybe thats what they command these days from breakers. (haven't seen any reply from any breaker yet either) especially as the extra bits were not included.
Not keen on trial by forum, I don't think its fair. Just look at Pon, Maria never said anything bad about SCC.
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Personally I like DIY, its more interesting but each to thier own.
I do think IMHO that £2600 was steep for a long block, but maybe thats what they command these days from breakers. (haven't seen any reply from any breaker yet either) especially as the extra bits were not included.
Not keen on trial by forum, I don't think its fair. Just look at Pon, Maria never said anything bad about SCC.
Like the T&A discount too
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Ranj,
Funny as I remember that being about the price that MAD, SCS and TS have all quoted in the past - hence my comment about ask Mark for a quote to do this
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At the end of the day, I know it can be done cheaper (A1 does do it cheaper than this), but when you take into account that this was done as well as all the other bits mentioned by Rich, it doesn't look so bad a picture as you are trying to imply (just like you were "trying" to justify your £10k+ 400bhp engine by Mark
- when you take into account some of the things you mention, it doesn't look so bad
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Funny as I remember that being about the price that MAD, SCS and TS have all quoted in the past - hence my comment about ask Mark for a quote to do this
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At the end of the day, I know it can be done cheaper (A1 does do it cheaper than this), but when you take into account that this was done as well as all the other bits mentioned by Rich, it doesn't look so bad a picture as you are trying to imply (just like you were "trying" to justify your £10k+ 400bhp engine by Mark
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Shit luck honey! Have to agree with the others that it's the second hand engine's fault, not the work carried out by SCC, but i haven't seen any evidence of anyone actually blaming SCC? It's all just been twisted round. I feel gutted for you and the amount of money you've spent. I bought my car and straight away had to fit a new gearbox which wasn't cheap!!!! (I would like to state that i knew when buying the car that i would need a new gearbox and am in no way incriminating the lovely bloke i bought it from)
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Originally Posted by Phil
SCC have done a LOT of work on your car from what I can see, and i'm sure they wouldn't rip you (or anyone) off.
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(just like you were "trying" to justify your £10k+ 400bhp engine by Mark
wasnt trying to justify anything mike, and its 420 by the way
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end of day, its marias money and car, i just aired my opinion didnt knock anyones work.
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mine has been as good as gold cost me very little in 10 years.
I just think Maria has been very unlucky.
And the cost rises sharply with the power and modifications you do.
I just think Maria has been very unlucky.
And the cost rises sharply with the power and modifications you do.
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Originally Posted by _Ben_
Originally Posted by Phil
SCC have done a LOT of work on your car from what I can see, and i'm sure they wouldn't rip you (or anyone) off.
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Seeing as we were told the replacement engine had only covered 10k and had a brand new head on it why would we have thought it nessesary
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9 fookin K!...is alot of money and regardless of any other thing the girl came on here just making a point that she spent all that money and it's all fooked right now thats all....give her a fookin break!
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Maria did tell me earier on today that Mark Shead had looked at the bill and thought we had looked after her ok and he would have been more expensive..........
Never posted on a Maria thread..is she well fit?
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How about we all chip in a tenner done thru Stu to help the poor girl out?Shoot me down if you like but a bit of unity from us Ford folk wouldnt go astray...maybe give the contract to Stu aswell so he gets business and Maria gets it rebuilt cheaper....Just a suggestion!
You know what Phil, this may well be one of your better ideas...........Would work would'nt it?
How about we all chip in a tenner done thru Stu to help the poor girl out?Shoot me down if you like but a bit of unity from us Ford folk wouldnt go astray...maybe give the contract to Stu aswell so he gets business and Maria gets it rebuilt cheaper....Just a suggestion!
You know what Phil, this may well be one of your better ideas...........Would work would'nt it?
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I know how your feeling to Maria Sorry hun just keep the chin up and have a break for the car for a while!
Maria.... for you babe.
Just hope one day you can get to enjoy clive Maria
Would have been nice for them to have inspected the replacement engine though?
oh and Ranj - cheers for sticking up for me and trying to get your opinion accross too! In fact, thanks to all of you guys for being fucking awesome!
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oh and Ranj - cheers for sticking up for me and trying to get your opinion accross too! In fact, thanks to all of you guys for being fucking awesome!
not a problem maria, good luck
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Guted for you and Clive Maria
Know how your feelin as I've just brought a new car to replace our XR and the damn thing is now gonna cost me a wedge to sort out
. It aint great but there's nowt that can be done.
Can't help but feel some vultures are jumping in to grab their pound of flesh though adn SCC seem to have been unfairly maligned in this situation. I've not seen Maria criticise directly only people jump in with misinformed assumptions. That's just my feelings though. (*climbs off soapbox*)
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Know how your feelin as I've just brought a new car to replace our XR and the damn thing is now gonna cost me a wedge to sort out
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Can't help but feel some vultures are jumping in to grab their pound of flesh though adn SCC seem to have been unfairly maligned in this situation. I've not seen Maria criticise directly only people jump in with misinformed assumptions. That's just my feelings though. (*climbs off soapbox*)
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fucking hell guys, on reading the finer details, scc have REALLY looked after Maria on price!!
the blame lies with the supplier of the engine if at all as it is a second hand engine and no real garuntee can be given
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it really is a case of TBE
bad luck im afraid
the blame lies with the supplier of the engine if at all as it is a second hand engine and no real garuntee can be given
ranj, you are talking shit RE: get a solicitor etc!
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it really is a case of TBE
bad luck im afraid
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ranj, you are talking shit RE: get a solicitor etc
i said seek legal advice, bit different
u wud bve cursing the world if u was in marias shoes,
and for the fookin last time "ITS MY FUKIN OPINION"
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fucking hell guys, on reading the finer details, scc have REALLY looked after Maria on price!!
the blame lies with the supplier of the engine if at all as it is a second hand engine and no real garuntee can be given
at the end of the day its no ones fault but my own, i am no blaming anyone or anything for any of this,
i simply came on here to make a thread about what was happeneing with my car!!
kinda wish i hadnt now!
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Don't take it to heart Maria.
This stuff sucks big time. Saddly all we can do is dust ourselves off, learn from what's happened and try again.
Hope you sort everything
This stuff sucks big time. Saddly all we can do is dust ourselves off, learn from what's happened and try again.
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Originally Posted by maria
Maria did tell me earier on today that Mark Shead had looked at the bill and thought we had looked after her ok and he would have been more expensive..........
No you haven't said anything of the sort,
Its maybe what you haven't said thats giving this impression though....
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its the other clueless pricks that seem to think they know the whole ins and outs of the whole thing that piss me off......
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at the end of the day its the headgasket that looks like it failed and caused the additional problems due to getting excessivly hot, no one could have seen that coming, its just shit luck,
i feel for ya Maria i really do, as ive said on the phone many times over the whole thing, i wish there was something i could do......
Its kind of irrelivant how much you spent as 99% of the bits wont need replacing again, with anyluck as i said before a set of pistons and rings will get her running again.......
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The point I was making was that SCC didn't suggest some basic engine checks might be a worthwhile investment and hence suggest it to the customer.
Best of luck sorting it out Maria.
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The point I was making was that SCC didn't suggest some basic engine checks might be a worthwhile investment and hence suggest it to the customer.
Best of luck sorting it out Maria.
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Just out of curiousity, what headgasket was it???????????????
Not a cometic one
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Well I have just read this thread and I really feel sorry for ya Maria, if it had been me, I think I would have stripped the rest of the car by now and sold it on.
SCC seem to have done alot of work at a good price, and I know they always look after me when I am down there too.
Best of luck getting it sorted Maria, and Rob I will see ya tomorrow!
SCC seem to have done alot of work at a good price, and I know they always look after me when I am down there too.
Best of luck getting it sorted Maria, and Rob I will see ya tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Rob@SCC Performance
After this much greif think i'll go back to being "St Albans Car Clinic" and knock this performance shit on the head
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Hey! My brother is from St Albans. Weird that innit....
Anyways............... Sorry to hijack the topic.
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Wish Maria all the best in getting 'Clive' back on the road! And why do the fairer sex always name their cars? Weird.............
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_Ben_,
Yeah its called a dial out gauge on the face of the cylinder head.
Yeah its called a dial out gauge on the face of the cylinder head.
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This engine was a fully assembled powerunit as i understand it and fibrious 611 gaskets mainly fail due to material deterioration and corrosion around the exhaust side coolant channels 95% of the time.... what use is your DTi in assesing this condition? Zero.
Maybe Maria should have asked for the engine to be stripped and refreshed, but again, given she chose a decent soundin second hand unit at reasonable cost, id say she took a calculated risk to reduce expenditure..... il say no more as it will be covering old ground again.. i just hate to see the tuner getting criticised here when unless theres a large piece of the story i havent heard, its just purely bad luck...
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Originally Posted by maria
fucking hell guys, on reading the finer details, scc have REALLY looked after Maria on price!!
the blame lies with the supplier of the engine if at all as it is a second hand engine and no real garuntee can be given
at the end of the day its no ones fault but my own, i am no blaming anyone or anything for any of this,
i simply came on here to make a thread about what was happeneing with my car!!
kinda wish i hadnt now!
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Was an Austin Maestro on an A plate though.
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Good luck with the engine babe, hope it's fixed soon.
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At 1st glance it reads that SCC have supplied and fitted a 2nd hand engine for £9k......
but when it boils down to it and the total is broken down the picture unravels into....
Engine supplied by customer
Complete management swap (inc all sensors, ecu, loom, injectors etc etc)
Shiny bits and more shiney bits (i love a bit of
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4 new 18" tyres
New Alcon clutch
Swapping bits over (due to being a 2wd donor engine)
etc etc etc
Now i worked at SCC for over 2 years and i can hold my hand on my heart and say that Rob is an enthusiast NOT a rip off merchant, he'd help out any number of people and gain nothing in return because of his love of RS's.....
A few weeks ago it was ML getting a hard time now SCC whos next then???? SCS, MSD, MAD etc etc
People need to see the whole picture b4 making a judgement......
Steve
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Maria chin up....... i've been there and done it with my old Saffy, things do eventually get better (trust me they do)......... there were times i could have just taken the Saff to a scrappers and said "crush the fucker"
but when it boils down to it and the total is broken down the picture unravels into....
Engine supplied by customer
Complete management swap (inc all sensors, ecu, loom, injectors etc etc)
Shiny bits and more shiney bits (i love a bit of
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4 new 18" tyres
New Alcon clutch
Swapping bits over (due to being a 2wd donor engine)
etc etc etc
Now i worked at SCC for over 2 years and i can hold my hand on my heart and say that Rob is an enthusiast NOT a rip off merchant, he'd help out any number of people and gain nothing in return because of his love of RS's.....
A few weeks ago it was ML getting a hard time now SCC whos next then???? SCS, MSD, MAD etc etc
People need to see the whole picture b4 making a judgement......
Steve
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Maria chin up....... i've been there and done it with my old Saffy, things do eventually get better (trust me they do)......... there were times i could have just taken the Saff to a scrappers and said "crush the fucker"
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Well said steve
I think its just a case of some saddo's trying to get their nuts wet by argueeing with rob
Top job Rob
if I show you a bit of tit and some arse, will you lower that quote
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I think its just a case of some saddo's trying to get their nuts wet by argueeing with rob
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Top job Rob
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Originally Posted by maria
Never posted on a Maria thread..is she well fit?
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