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Old 06-06-2006, 11:08 PM
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I'm getting really annoyed. It seems to be most nights now. It either goes completely or it goes intermittently. Or even worse it half works but won't display pages properly.

Instead of promising faster speeds, maybe they should just make sure it actually bloody works first!!

Anybody else at the end of their tether with it? Their customer service is non existant neither, and they've been charging us for an extra box since November. We don't have an extra set top box! They said the money wrongly taken would be creditted to our account but this month, lo and behold, the bill comes through with no credit showing

I believe they do this stuff deliberately as they know anybody who has phoned them, will never want to do so again.

Rant over!
Old 06-06-2006, 11:32 PM
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DNS and Proxy issues all night.

forums.nthell.co.uk is a good source of info
Old 06-06-2006, 11:37 PM
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Gonna put a kiss of death on things but the past 12 months have been ok with NTL
Old 06-06-2006, 11:40 PM
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NTL one of the cheap shites

Cant get no better than good new telewest band
Old 07-06-2006, 12:22 AM
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Yes me too im pissed off to say the least, Glad its not just me though
Old 07-06-2006, 12:42 AM
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Never had any problems with ntl had them quite a few years now and i can never remember it going off, great service
Old 07-06-2006, 12:47 AM
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Couldnt get MSN tonight on NTL and part of Flea-Bay went a bit bandy...

For Ł25 a month they should be better than that.... tossas
Old 07-06-2006, 05:47 AM
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I've personnaly had no problem with them

With them binning their download limits i'm quite chuffed tbh...

Does have the odd time where it's being wierd but it's always resolved within an hour or two....
Old 07-06-2006, 06:56 AM
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no problems here either, know what you mean about the customer service though, guy who came to fit the cable didn't give me the installation disk and it took me tons of phonecalls to sort that out!
Old 07-06-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by trevcannon
NTL one of the cheap shites

Cant get no better than good new telewest band
Got to laugh at this....

NTL:Telewest all one of the same.
Old 07-06-2006, 11:35 AM
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the qulity of service NTL offer is VERY VERY good. and it does rarely go wrong.

i'm on their 10meg service, and the ONLY reason i'd leave them is because their customer service is APPAULING
Old 07-06-2006, 11:39 AM
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Had problems at the ex's place saturday when pages wouldn't load properly etc.. not sure if there is still a problem as I am nolonger living there
Old 07-06-2006, 11:44 AM
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I have problems if I am downloading continuneously, I find my connection just dies and the only way to restore is to power off and on the modem (this happens when they change my IP address too).

Other than that its ok (but the upstream is crap)
Old 07-06-2006, 01:11 PM
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No problems with NTL for me, been with them for near 7 years now. You can check the server status on the site which shows planned outtages etc..
Old 07-06-2006, 03:10 PM
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agree with EBR that upstream is shite, but it's the technology that limits it, you're pushing 512k per user through a data channel designed to handle remote control keypresses for pay-perview TV

they've not done bandy imho, you used to get 128k max
Old 07-06-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyBlackFRST
Had problems at the ex's place saturday when pages wouldn't load properly etc.. not sure if there is still a problem as I am nolonger living there
Old 07-06-2006, 03:55 PM
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For the last month or so my NTL connection has been going down like a lesbian on heat.
I changed from a usb2 connection to ethernet to see if that cured it. It sped my connection up by nearly double, but it still keeps dropping all the time.
Old 07-06-2006, 03:57 PM
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There was problems with the DNS servers being overloaded. Fast guy when your connection goes down does the modem lights stay on?
Old 07-06-2006, 04:02 PM
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Yes, I just can't access any pages. The progress bar thingy goes across slowly and either nothing happens or I eventually get a "page not found" or whichever message it is.
Old 07-06-2006, 04:05 PM
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This is likely DNS issues. I would also run a full spyware scan, www.lavasoft.com or if you have genuine windows xp, microsoft have antispyware you can download.
Old 07-06-2006, 04:05 PM
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Thats funny, i got a leaflet through the door this morning from NTL, saying go with us and you will get BB,phone, cable tv for 15 quid first 3months then 30 after that, seemed an ok deal but im happy so i wont be changing especially after reading this
Old 07-06-2006, 04:08 PM
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I've got ad-aware, spybot, windows defender and NIS
Old 07-06-2006, 04:11 PM
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Will be DNS problems then, its listed on there website about it(help and support section) I cant honestly remember when my BB has been down for more than a few hours though.
Old 07-06-2006, 04:13 PM
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been with em 7 years never had a problem,even the customer service was good the only time i did call thm
Old 07-06-2006, 04:25 PM
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Been with NTL for nearing 6 years now - had broadband 4 years now, was never a problem until the past couple of months - cuts out intermitantely each time we use the net Same happens with my mate down the road too so not just my PC.

Weird thing is Norton Anti-virus has also got something to do with the problems, sometimes if the net connection cuts out and i disable Norton, the net works fine again for a while until it cuts again

Up until now i thought they might have been capping our connections due to downloading etc but now that i see more people have the same problem it must be thier shit service. I don't understand how it was fine before and now gone tits up
Old 07-06-2006, 04:28 PM
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The problem is not a lot of people understand how the internet works or what is needed to set a network for millions of users.
Old 07-06-2006, 04:32 PM
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It aint ntl users problem though is it? they pay for it so they expect it to be perfect otherwise they will find another provider!!
Old 07-06-2006, 04:40 PM
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I meant in relation to when a problem occurs how its fixed. Its not as simple as flicking something on and off. I think you would be surprised at just how poor most providers actually are.
Old 07-06-2006, 05:05 PM
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NTL cut my broadband off last year twice in 2 weeks without prior warning for an Alledged outstanding payment, which wasn't outstanding.

Customer services couldn't sort ot out.

I changed to SKY and Bulldog, and saved money for a better connection and more channels.

It took me nearly 6 months to get rid of NTL but I "Think" I've finally managed it.
And yes Bulldog C/services are a bit slow but nowhere near as bad as NTL.
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Originally Posted by tonyk
The problem is not a lot of people understand how the internet works or what is needed to set a network for millions of users.
Tony, I think those people are NTL! They seem to be taking on customers faster than their network can take. They upgrade it and boast about their fast service then wait till it's overloaded again before they do any further work!
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There we go again, whilst on ebay viewing an auction with 2 mins to go, about to bid and........CUTS OFF
Old 07-06-2006, 05:30 PM
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Im not sticking up for NTL in particular, just trying to educate a few on to why any company can have failures. As an example iirc ntl has a contention ratio of 20:1 versus BT's 50:1.

Also DNS failures can come through Routers and not the service provider.
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im with tony on this one, the QOS with NTL (and all the cable networks to be honest) is FAR higher than with DSL. problems get fixed a LOT faster too.

technically, they really do rank up there at the top... it's just a shame that their customer service is so dreadful.

also most problems with NTL are regarding cache servers, none of the otehr isps experience this problem, because they DONT HAVE cache servers. (ps cache servers are a GOOD thing)

if a cache server fails it will failover to another within 5 minutes. VERY OCCASIONALLY this doesnt happen and the service is down until someone can fix it. this is usually rectified very quickly.

its also very very very very easy to fix yourself, you just point your PC at a cache server thats working until they fix your local one
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
im with tony on this one, the QOS with NTL (and all the cable networks to be honest) is FAR higher than with DSL. problems get fixed a LOT faster too.

technically, they really do rank up there at the top... it's just a shame that their customer service is so dreadful.

also most problems with NTL are regarding cache servers, none of the otehr isps experience this problem, because they DONT HAVE cache servers. (ps cache servers are a GOOD thing)

if a cache server fails it will failover to another within 5 minutes. VERY OCCASIONALLY this doesnt happen and the service is down until someone can fix it. this is usually rectified very quickly.

its also very very very very easy to fix yourself, you just point your PC at a cache server thats working until they fix your local one
Jim, what makes you say cache servers are a good thing? The way NTL ones work, I would rather they didn't have them and I go download pages from the source rather than from their servers.
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Dogsmoke, my local cache is rarely down (touch wood) and im talking single figures for the amount of problems per year.
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Cache servers make the whole service more efficent don't they? Assuming they work.
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Agar, yes they do. If yours is down you can change to another to keep you going, the details are usually on Nthell.co.uk
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been with bt for 2 yrs!! no problems!
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Originally Posted by tonyk
Agar, yes they do. If yours is down you can change to another to keep you going, the details are usually on Nthell.co.uk
Thats handy to know - ta
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