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Old 03-06-2006, 09:58 PM
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Default Milage discrepencey-what do you think

Ok then peeps, need some advice

I was going to go and look at a Series 1 tomorrow that seemed all good, but once i HPi'd it i found this...

1, The guy says it is a "3 owners from new"......HPi says 6

2, This is the one...

It came back with "There is a milage descrepency"

So i look at it and it changed hands on 06/09/2003 and the milage read 128,000

THEN 18/09/2003 the milage was 100,000

The guy is advertising it as 86,000??????????

On the HPi it says" Warning-Mileage data is supplied by thrid partys and may not be accurate"



What you think...................?
Old 03-06-2006, 10:02 PM
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I'd say if it originally read more once, it's probably true, twice, even more to say it's probably true...maybe ask the guy about it...see what he says...he might have been sold it at 80,000 and run up the 6 himself, so to him it is 86?

Possibly not the best start, eh.
Old 03-06-2006, 10:02 PM
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1, The guy says it is a "3 owners from new"......HPi says 6
Old 03-06-2006, 10:09 PM
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just walk away. It's only an escort, there's others out there.
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I wonder if the guy has ALL the MOT's.....i bet the ones in question are missing

To be fair though, the guy bought it 2 years ago so probably never picked up on it
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Originally Posted by Moose 130
just walk away. It's only an escort, there's others out there.
Yer, i was going to veiw it tomorrow but i think a trip elsewhere is on the cards
Old 03-06-2006, 10:17 PM
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Walk away
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Tiff, you know better...........

Leave well alone fella
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Pete

I know mate, i just wanted peoples views
Old 03-06-2006, 10:26 PM
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TBH i bet half the RST's out there have been milage "adjusted".

I KNOW my old RST hadnt because i had every MOT from its very 1st one in 1992 right up to 2006 and all the orginal ford service history stamps with milage and the milage increase says roughly even each year, it was MOT'ed and again 6 months later when it was service
Old 03-06-2006, 10:28 PM
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Andy

Thats it mate, if you have ALL the mots then your safe
Old 03-06-2006, 10:28 PM
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Sounds like it's had a bit of a haircut..............that or new clocks but with the owners thing not stacking up I'd pass.
Old 03-06-2006, 10:29 PM
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leave alone imo - has to be plenty of straight ones available if your willing to look at 100k+ ones!
Old 03-06-2006, 10:34 PM
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how far is it? if its miles then fair enough DONT bother it's your choice but on the other hand could well be a mistake on hpi record
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Originally Posted by mattbibs
leave alone imo - has to be plenty of straight ones available if your willing to look at 100k+ ones!
It is up as an 86k one...that is why i was going to look.

Dont want ones with that many miles on
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Originally Posted by Alvyn
how far is it? if its miles then fair enough DONT bother it's your choice but on the other hand could well be a mistake on hpi record
It is about 30 mins from me
Old 03-06-2006, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF
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Thats it mate, if you have ALL the mots then your safe
Not me safe, the new owner should be, i sold it few weeks back now!

I wasnt too worried at the time of buying it 6 yrs ago because i was buying it for the car i could see infront of me, not how many miles it had done and history etc. With a S2 RST If its a solid car, engine solid and reasonably price then IMO thats fine i wouldnt be too bothered, but the trouble is with S1's there a bit more collectable and will hold money better if they are full history etc so yeah you NEED full MOT history and service history if possible.
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Originally Posted by TIFF
Always said your a right winker
Old 04-06-2006, 01:05 AM
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S1's suck,you'd look good in a saff
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
TBH i bet half the RST's out there have been milage "adjusted".

I KNOW my old RST hadnt because i had every MOT from its very 1st one in 1992 right up to 2006 and all the orginal ford service history stamps with milage and the milage increase says roughly even each year, it was MOT'ed and again 6 months later when it was service
Mine hasnt been played with either.I bought it new in 1989 and had her ever since.Didnt keep the old mot certs though.On reflection I should have but I dont have em all.Cant be many one owner cars left can there?
Old 04-06-2006, 07:37 AM
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its amazing how hard it is to find mint RS's so many dishonest sellers lol, deffo walk away,
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just wondering how much do you reckon a mint rst2 (and i mean mint)be worth with one owner from new and 135,000 on the clock?
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Originally Posted by starturbo
just wondering how much do you reckon a mint rst2 (and i mean mint)be worth with one owner from new and 135,000 on the clock?
Is it std? the problem is the milage, how many people are going to want to pay top money for a RST with that milage on it, unless its been fully rebuilt.

£2200-£2500 would be my guess, unless its modified and got some tasty goodies on it, then £2800-£3200 if its proper mint*





*not this usual "ebay" mint
Old 04-06-2006, 08:29 AM
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if the car is good enough and the price is right then i don't see anything wrong with high milage.

point it out to the owner Mark.
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with that many discrepencies <(sp)
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
S1's suck,you'd look good in a saff
Been there, gone that
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by starturbo
just wondering how much do you reckon a mint rst2 (and i mean mint)be worth with one owner from new and 135,000 on the clock?
Is it std? the problem is the milage, how many people are going to want to pay top money for a RST with that milage on it, unless its been fully rebuilt.

£2200-£2500 would be my guess, unless its modified and got some tasty goodies on it, then £2800-£3200 if its proper mint* Its proper,proper mint mate.A few mates off this board have seen it and I get offers to buy it every time I take her out.As I say I have had it since new and have looked after it really well.Its standard but I had it re-ringed with new big ends,mains etc.Also got a spare engine that i am tempted to drop in it.Its bored out to 1760cc with mahle racing pistons and a stage 2 hybrid to go on it.Dont know what to do though?





*not this usual "ebay" mint
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Tiff.sorry mate.I just realised Ive hijacked your post.didnt mean to.
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HPI will record a Milage problem somtimes when the car goes over the clock
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
I KNOW my old RST hadnt because i had every MOT from its very 1st one in 1992 right up to 2006 and all the orginal ford service history stamps with milage and the milage increase says roughly even each year, it was MOT'ed and again 6 months later when it was service
Don't count on that mate we knew a guy who used to have a company car and would rack up his allowed mileage for 6 months on one set of clocks and would then swap them for a second set of clocks and the car was then sold on after three years with about 70k under its belt but the clocks and all the history would support 30k miles

Nobody was going to tell him it was out of order as he was an evil scary mo fo
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If you have mot and/or service history which proves the miles are correct you'll be ok, you can apply to the HPI to have the descrepency removed. They need proof though.

I think they get the data from MOT's and when the owners are changed (you have the option of declaring the mileage). Its difficult to proove but the MOT station may have made a mistake when putting the miles down. I've seen this happen before, or as said before maybe he changed the clocks from some failure.

Check out the overall condition is the best bet, you can soon tell teh approximate mileage from the usual checks.
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Here is a link to the car in question

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/75759.htm
Old 04-06-2006, 11:20 AM
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He may have his HPI certificate, be interesting to see what that said on the owners and miles ??
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He did say he has a HPi report from when he bought it
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Well someones data must be wrong wether it be his HPI report or the new version......, he probably doesn't even know there are any errors.

You can request from DVLA all previous owners i think for £5, that would probably prove the owners !
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Even if it has been clocked, that's not the end of the world imo.

If the condition of the car is spot on it wouldn't worry me too much but I'd certainly use the HPI report to bid him down a fair whack.
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It doesn't help that its got cheapo Ventos tyres, doesn't give off the impression that it is well looked after!


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