bassboy

What management would you all recommend for a overall budget of £1200-1500 (obviously the cheaper the better) for all the hardware (sensors if any needed, loom, ecu itself etc)?

above cost does not include mapping

Its for a Zetec turbo engine and going into a series 2 RS Turbo

main features im after is mappable boost and closed loop if possible, anti lag will be a bonus but not necessary. If i can run hi and low impedance injectors that would be excellent but again, not a necessity

I have been looking at Pectel T2 which seems in my price range but was wondering what else is out there for similar money

cheers peeps

bassboy

tonyk

What about Cosworth Management.

GARETH T

if you look,, you will get a second hand t6 pectel for that money! depending on how maps it,, it could be the best move you will do

bassboy

gareth....any chance you can point me in the right direction of where to look mate?

tonyk, thought of that, but just seeing what else is out there

bassboy

GARETH T

try tim finch he may have one
give pectel a bell too see if they have any about the place
back of motoring news

tonyk

Personally I would go for the Cossie management and spend the money you save on replacing things that most people with RSY's overlook such as:

Proper Gearbox for the power
Bushes
Bent Hubs
Dodgy Wiring
Perishing hoses
Proper Brake setup
Shell Strengthening
Proper Alignment check
Steering Rack

Its all to uncommon to see a 250bhp+ engine in a shitter these days. I dont know what you have done to your car so you may have done some of the above, good luck anyway.

Sunil_FiestaRS1800

iTrader: (1)

I bought an Ex Formula Ford Pectel T2 for around £300 off Capri-rs off here. He got it cheaper than that off some site and sold it to me for a profit which is fair enough .

It came with a zetec loom but was locked so it couldnt be remapped. I sent it to Ahmed who unlocked it for me and put a base map on for my 2.0, for £150 i think it was.

So for less than £500 ive got a fully mappble ecu with a loom. Just gotta fit it now its been sitting in my room for time

Rab

Go-Tech.

GARETH T

who

you read that he said the best right?

GUZZLER

iTrader: (3)

Omex 600, about £750 for ecu, loom & sensors, fully mappable with anti lag etc....

Billy_RS

iTrader: (5)

Frankenstein Motorsport bruv. Ask for steve and speak to him about dta.

Tell him billy with the black rst sent ya.

01525 237111

It's Czech Mate

I'd consider it

Rab

Just beacause it's new, and not a pectel, don't mean it's shit

Like the people who fit cossie managment to RSTs. For less money you can get OMEX/GoTech/DTA which is better than cossie.

Anyways. He asked for suggestions

GARETH T

considering i cant even find a tidy website for them, doesnt scream pro outfit too me

Rab

So, the best managment is made by the compaines with the best web design team?

GARETH T

find me the spec of the go-tech then?

Rab

There you go.

http://www.gotech.co.za/Gotech%20MFI.php

Rab

There you go.

http://www.gotech.co.za/Gotech%20MFI.php

Oranoco

PF Nick uses Go-Tech in his S2 and it works a treat

GARETH T

dam i know i made the wrong choice

only messing,, it looks 'ok' but its not the best by far,, there many ecus i would pick infront of one of them

Rab

Fair doos.

Oranoco

But how many can be supplied new, fitted and mapped for under a grand?

Rab

It's what I may well put in the XR2

GARETH T

im sorry to use this but its normally try:

you get what you pay for

big_wig_074

megasquirt!
then spend the remaining grand on a bloody good night in a strip joint!

Oranoco

I'm far from a tight wad when it comes to getting stuff on my cars done goes but why pay out for mega expensive kit when a cheaper alternative exists that works. If it didn't work then I would agree whole heartedly with you but from what I have seen of the Go-Tech kit it works very very well indeed. PF Nick is running it with stonking results and I think Sara from here has it on her S2 as well and hers is shifting nicely as well. Even a chap running it on a 500bhp Alfa.

Rab

You do indeed. You get a fully fitted managment system on your RS Turbo or whatever.

GARETH T

its very easy too make an ecu and get great power figures,, no joke i think i could make an ecu in an afternoon and gain a impressive power figure from it! the engine onyl needs a spark at the right time and the right amount of fuel

the clever bit in ecus which everyone neglects, it how good it is at thermal management! this is where ALOT of lower end ecu's miss out,, either because then havent got a large enough resolution (8 bit processors ) or simple havent been programed right!

this is why i said this
because of the mapper doesnt put the time or effort (or even lack of know how) into the uses of thermal management the T6 could be the worst ecu he could buy!

the ecu's are only as good as the person behind the laptops

GARETH T

i really wanna have a play with a mega squirt,, as it intrests me that its an open project

bassboy

gerbox is sorted, bushes are done but changing to rose joints, brakes are done, shell is mint...just need to add a few things to it to finish it off, alignment will be done when engine is in car and fully adjustable suspension has been fitted, steering rack will be put in when the engine comes out to be changed....so to be honest...all of the above criteria have been looked after or atleast thought about which is why its time to consider management now (money is ready and waiting)

thank you for your input Gareth....sent ya a PM back oh and its Ahmed Bayjoo who will be mapping the car or Motorsport Developments

Gotech is another option however i have not seen too many vehicles running this at the moment so i would be a bit warey spending my money on this....however, having heard jamie Going will be running this, it could be a possibilty, however only after i have seen what the car can do...

i have heard from a few people that OMEX and DTA are not considered to be top class management....i might have been told fibs but i dont know the ins and outs of the management processing bits to have my own opinion about this...however they do look good on paper (functions wise)

also i need something that will support huge injectors

bassboy

GARETH T

dont overdo the size of injectors on a cheap ecu,, as this could cause ALOT of idle problems

omex do some very nice ecus,, and dta is fine also

bassboy

will big injectors on a T2 be ok?

bassboy

GARETH T

depends how big, is BIG

bassboy

gareth....PM'd ya

bassboy

Jim Galbally

all i'd say, is that when budgeting on management, NEVER forget the cost of the loom, as they can be pricey if you buy a proper loom from a pro.

bassboy

thats in the budget to mate price i have for the loom for the T2 (which is what im more than likely going to go for now!) is very good and EASILY falls within my budget

bassboy

Jim Galbally

also re omex and DTA

yes it's true that theyre in the budget department, but theyre still MORE than capble of doing everything you need, plus more. but then to be fair, T2 is also in this category.

plus theyre MILES better than shonky old ke-jetronic :P

i personally run an emerald ECU, which is in the budget category too, and i can't fault it

bassboy

is T2 seen as a budget ECU?

bassboy

Jim Galbally

well, how much does it cost and what is the spec of it

please remember that 2006 budget technology pises all over 1989 supercomputer stuff

just because its cheaper than the likes of autronic, t6, etc. etc. doesnt make it any less capable of running your RS Turbo!!!

bassboy

i THINK the T2 comes in at about £900 + £4-600 for a loom

specs are

T2 Motorsport ECU Specification:

Processor Motorola 32 bit 21MHz
RAM 128KB - 512KB
Flash 128KB
A/D Accuracy 10bit

Voltage Range 6 to 18 volts
Temperature Range -40°C to 85°C

Injector Drives 4 High Impedance
Ignition Drives 2 Internal Clamp
PWM / Relay Outputs 2
Tacho Drive 1

Crank Sensor Type Inductive
Cam Sensor Type Inductive
Analogue Inputs 6
Internal Sensors Barometric Pressure
ECU Temperature
Battery Voltage

Communication RS232

Dimensions Length 126mm
Width 98mm
Height 27mm
Weight 325g
Case CNC Machined HE30
Connector 25 way AMP

Datalogging 40 Channels
Data Throughput 100 Samples/Second

Engine Configuration 1 to 4 Cylinders
2 or 4 Stroke Natural/Forced Induction 10000rpm maximum

Application Software DescproW and Pi Toolbox

more details here: http://www.pectel.co.uk/sub_page.cfm...ucts/editID/12

i know just coz its cheap doesnt mean it wont run my ZT, im just asking what you all recommend and what your experiences are of aftermarket management systems....also i do not mind if its seen as a budget system, just as long as it does the job (seems to control Paul Johnsons Fiesta VERY well (179mph))...just wondered what else was about for the same money and if one stands out from the rest of the systems

bassboy