General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Had my cossie set-up at Marks yesterday -Quick Update

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 28-05-2006, 07:36 AM
  #41  
Eagle
Super Moderator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Super Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Eagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: somwhere in wow
Posts: 18,594
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

i know its gonna be happening to me at some stage just need the extra 5k for a gearbox
Old 28-05-2006, 07:36 AM
  #42  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Andreas
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Glad your happy Rich, was wondering how you got on with my first ever off the shelf Greys chip, great to read all is well and your a happy man.
Sounds interesting

Whats needed for this bar the cams and the greys?

Is it still standard comp?
My comp ratio is 7.7:1
Standard head ports

You need an 044 feul pump and i would recommend decent suspension to get the power dwon really
Old 28-05-2006, 07:40 AM
  #43  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by wimwerf
nice.....

you have to change your name nou...

cossierich400....
It is Nice mate.

Think i will just change my name to cossierich becuase im not sure of the power really. With standards ports on my head i wont have reached the magical 400bhp. This was an experiement for myself, Mark and Stu really.

Mark has never done a greys conversion on a standard head before.
I have the 1st off the shelf greys chip from Stu

I can deffo confirm that it works fine but im going to have to change my -31 for a -34 because my 31 is at full preload
Old 28-05-2006, 07:43 AM
  #44  
Eagle
Super Moderator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Super Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Eagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: somwhere in wow
Posts: 18,594
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

there is a nice rolling road shootout next saturday mate .. not too far from you either
Old 28-05-2006, 07:45 AM
  #45  
cossie4i+
TT T38 Power
iTrader: (15)
 
cossie4i+'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 22,368
Received 32 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Did you have the BD14 fitted on the inlet ?

Steve.
Old 28-05-2006, 07:57 AM
  #46  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cossie4i
Did you have the BD14 fitted on the inlet ?

Steve.
yup
Old 28-05-2006, 08:00 AM
  #47  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Eagle
there is a nice rolling road shootout next saturday mate .. not too far from you either
no rolling road shootout for me Pete. I want to get le-mans out the way before i do that.
Old 28-05-2006, 08:38 AM
  #48  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Official PassionFord Trader
Administrator
iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cossierich330
This was an experiement for myself, Mark and Stu really. Mark has never done a greys conversion on a standard head before.
I have the 1st off the shelf greys chip from Stu
Just to clarify:
I have mapped hundreds of conversions like this obvioiusly, but have always maintained we will never do greys conversions "Off the shelf" as we believe 380+bhp to be too much to ask of a DIY fitment on a potentially 20+year old engine, harness and fuel system. The possible problems are many and we quite simply do not wish to have our name muddied when things go wrong and engines fail because silly little things that are wrong with cars, fuel filters, fuel regulators, wrong plugs, squashed fuel lines, CR totally wrong, injectors not modified properly etc etc... All these will spell definate meltdown if not checked professionally with wideband and det equip and we would naturally be the first in line for a portion of blame. lol

We decided recently that if you are having a well known pro tuner do the fitting, setting up and checking, we will be happy to supply you some really good management software. Rich was the first, chosing Mark to do the fitting for him who we are obviously happy with as ive heard on the grapevine he knows a little about these YB Cosworth things.

We will do this conversion mail order now for all level's of ECU and closed loop is also available (Which Rich incidentally has NOT got due to being on L6)
Old 28-05-2006, 08:50 AM
  #49  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default



Can you answer my PM Stu when you can mate
Old 28-05-2006, 09:12 AM
  #50  
Lambchop
PF Idiot Sniper
iTrader: (1)
 
Lambchop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 25,903
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

this sounds great

after i fit my 500 ic it might be the next step forward. whats the limit of a T34 then? I see you have a .55 and i have a .48

I already have the quaife diff, recon box, alcon 6 paddle and a BD10 inlet so dont need much to convert...hmmm so much for leaving my car as it is
Old 28-05-2006, 09:27 AM
  #51  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lambchop
this sounds great

after i fit my 500 ic it might be the next step forward. whats the limit of a T34 then? I see you have a .55 and i have a .48

I already have the quaife diff, recon box, alcon 6 paddle and a BD10 inlet so dont need much to convert...hmmm so much for leaving my car as it is
With your .48 the boost will tail off quicker than my .55. The .63 is the best for holding boost higher up the revs but then you lose responsivness and the lag will be greater. Thats why i went for the .55. Same response and spool up of the .48 but gives the greatest mid-range torque and can hold on longer up the rev range. Even if you welded the wastegate penny shut the t34 wont really be able to hold much more than 2 bar towards the red line. It all depends what you want really. If you want hard and punchy accerleration than stick with the .48 or get a .55 as i have. If you want something that pulls harder up the top end of the rev range then the .63 will be the best.

As Stu put it to me: the .48 gives the greatest mid range torque. The .63 gives the greatest top end. the .55 is the best compromise of the 2
Old 28-05-2006, 09:31 AM
  #52  
Lambchop
PF Idiot Sniper
iTrader: (1)
 
Lambchop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 25,903
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

i dont think i'd go up to .63 and tbh i suppose i'd rather have as little lag as poss
Old 28-05-2006, 09:33 AM
  #53  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

stick with the .48 then, but i have been imformed at the boost i am running they have a tendancy to crack. When i took my .48 off there were actually 3 little cracks appearing 1 around the wastegaste penny hole. and that was at 1.7 bar on greens.
Old 28-05-2006, 11:12 AM
  #54  
cossie4i+
TT T38 Power
iTrader: (15)
 
cossie4i+'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 22,368
Received 32 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Have you had valve cutouts in the pistons to use the BD14 ?

Steve.
Old 28-05-2006, 11:20 AM
  #55  
Cossie Helen
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Cossie Helen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Co Durham
Posts: 14,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sexy-RS
But Helen Sat is the Epsom DERBY you not coming then? Bit of horse racing betting and lots of booze

Plus you will be hungover from the friday night out after ladies day

Got to get the car right hun Otherwise i'll be waitinbg another month to get back over to Mark's as we have shows and dave working for the weekends after next, want the car right for Dorset


We still be out on Friday night
Old 28-05-2006, 11:42 AM
  #56  
DazC
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (1)
 
DazC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 12,748
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cossie4i
Have you had valve cutouts in the pistons to use the BD14 ?

Steve.
Thats a question I was going to ask.
Old 28-05-2006, 12:15 PM
  #57  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cossie4i
Have you had valve cutouts in the pistons to use the BD14 ?

Steve.
Yes i have mate.
Old 28-05-2006, 03:27 PM
  #58  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Official PassionFord Trader
Administrator
iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CossieRich
As Stu put it to me: the .48 gives the greatest mid range torque. The .63 gives the greatest top end. the .55 is the best compromise of the 2
Thats my opinion, sums it up well.
Old 28-05-2006, 03:33 PM
  #59  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Stu,

Im pretty sure the more people that read this post, the more will realise that greys and borewash are a thing of the past as well
Old 29-05-2006, 08:14 AM
  #60  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

back up for the weekday people who may be interested
Old 30-05-2006, 09:21 AM
  #61  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Official PassionFord Trader
Administrator
iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CossieRich
Stu,

Im pretty sure the more people that read this post, the more will realise that greys and borewash are a thing of the past as well
I would hope folk already realise it Rich, it was down to bad mapping in teh past and nothing more, but you never know i guess.
Old 30-05-2006, 09:35 AM
  #62  
bud-weis
Football Cwazy
 
bud-weis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Redditch, Worcestershire
Posts: 9,553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

sounds very good

would love to see a dyno chart for your spec
Old 30-05-2006, 10:14 AM
  #63  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bud-weis
sounds very good

would love to see a dyno chart for your spec
So would I mate. But ive run out of money now
Old 30-05-2006, 10:19 AM
  #64  
bud-weis
Football Cwazy
 
bud-weis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Redditch, Worcestershire
Posts: 9,553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default



i know what you mean

would like to see the difference between your spec and mine with regards to cam and turbo,

i am organising a RR day,but it's a bit of a trek for you? top of GD if your interested
Old 30-05-2006, 10:20 AM
  #65  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I shall take a look Martin
Old 30-05-2006, 10:25 AM
  #66  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Stu,

Im pretty sure the more people that read this post, the more will realise that greys and borewash are a thing of the past as well
I would hope folk already realise it Rich, it was down to bad mapping in the past and nothing more, but you never know i guess.
One of the 1st questions i was asked was: you sure you havent got bore wash. I said i wouldnt even be able to tell you if i have because i dont know the symptoms, but im 100% sure i havent because i have a pukka chip
Old 30-05-2006, 10:35 AM
  #67  
RS500/364
BANNED
BANNED
 
RS500/364's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Surrey BUT IF UR A FIT WOMEN
Posts: 4,185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by bud-weis
sounds very good

would love to see a dyno chart for your spec
So would I mate. But ive run out of money now
Originally Posted by RS500/104
sounds very good

would love to see a dyno chart for your spec
and i bet you would love to know mine to RICH SO WOULD I
Old 30-05-2006, 11:15 AM
  #68  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Official PassionFord Trader
Administrator
iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CossieRich
One of the 1st questions i was asked was: you sure you havent got bore wash. I said i wouldnt even be able to tell you if i have because i dont know the symptoms, but im 100% sure i havent because i have a pukka chip
Infuriating

Borewash comes from running massively rich mixtures, especially at idle and cruise. As you know, your running almost perfect Stoiciometry at 14.6:1 and without any help from closed loop circuitry, so you can catagorically state, NO, you are not suffering borewash, in fact, under certain conditions its probably running marginally leaner than they did new. lol
Old 30-05-2006, 12:08 PM
  #69  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by CossieRich
One of the 1st questions i was asked was: you sure you havent got bore wash. I said i wouldnt even be able to tell you if i have because i dont know the symptoms, but im 100% sure i havent because i have a pukka chip
Infuriating

Borewash comes from running massively rich mixtures, especially at idle and cruise. As you know, your running almost perfect Stoiciometry at 14.6:1 and without any help from closed loop circuitry, so you can catagorically state, NO, you are not suffering borewash, in fact, under certain conditions its probably running marginally leaner than they did new. lol
I did categorically state no i didnt have borewash. Amazes me how far the tuning world has come since the orignal days of greys. And 14.6:1 without closed loop is without doubt true hero mapping. Bare in mind people this chip was done for me by just telling Stu my engine setup i.e cr/cam choice/turbo etc. Stu has never been near my car or indeed even seen it which i think makes the achievements even greater
Old 30-05-2006, 02:09 PM
  #70  
gingeRS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
gingeRS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: london baby!
Posts: 7,443
Received 26 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by CossieRich
One of the 1st questions i was asked was: you sure you havent got bore wash. I said i wouldnt even be able to tell you if i have because i dont know the symptoms, but im 100% sure i havent because i have a pukka chip
Infuriating

Borewash comes from running massively rich mixtures, especially at idle and cruise. As you know, your running almost perfect Stoiciometry at 14.6:1 and without any help from closed loop circuitry, so you can catagorically state, NO, you are not suffering borewash, in fact, under certain conditions its probably running marginally leaner than they did new. lol
I did categorically state no i didnt have borewash. Amazes me how far the tuning world has come since the orignal days of greys. And 14.6:1 without closed loop is without doubt true hero mapping. Bare in mind people this chip was done for me by just telling Stu my engine setup i.e cr/cam choice/turbo etc. Stu has never been near my car or indeed even seen it which i think makes the achievements even greater


Old 30-05-2006, 02:11 PM
  #71  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gingeRS
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by CossieRich
One of the 1st questions i was asked was: you sure you havent got bore wash. I said i wouldnt even be able to tell you if i have because i dont know the symptoms, but im 100% sure i havent because i have a pukka chip
Infuriating

Borewash comes from running massively rich mixtures, especially at idle and cruise. As you know, your running almost perfect Stoiciometry at 14.6:1 and without any help from closed loop circuitry, so you can catagorically state, NO, you are not suffering borewash, in fact, under certain conditions its probably running marginally leaner than they did new. lol
I did categorically state no i didnt have borewash. Amazes me how far the tuning world has come since the orignal days of greys. And 14.6:1 without closed loop is without doubt true hero mapping. Bare in mind people this chip was done for me by just telling Stu my engine setup i.e cr/cam choice/turbo etc. Stu has never been near my car or indeed even seen it which i think makes the achievements even greater


wtf is that supposed to meen
Old 03-06-2006, 05:44 PM
  #73  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Seeing as my -31 actuator was at full pre-load i bought a -34 and back down to Marks this morning. We managed to get 34 psi, which Mark reckons is easily good enough for me to be in the 380bhp bracket

Very very hot day and my inlet temps were getting high even with the pro-alloy cooler doing its job. Maybe time for water injection to keep ACT's down.

Am over the moon with the chip and Mark setting it all up properly.

Big thanks guys
Old 03-06-2006, 05:57 PM
  #74  
RS500/364
BANNED
BANNED
 
RS500/364's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Surrey BUT IF UR A FIT WOMEN
Posts: 4,185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Be good when me you mark go for the next drive to a show will be a drive and very quick !!!!!!
remind me to have a chat about some things on tue i think you will like want i am just about to get rid of
and now i think my NOS kit needs to be sold or USED
just dont want the police to say
Old 03-06-2006, 07:11 PM
  #75  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Official PassionFord Trader
Administrator
iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Bloody boost junkies
Old 03-06-2006, 07:14 PM
  #76  
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
rapidcossie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: scotland
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

34 psi
Old 03-06-2006, 07:25 PM
  #77  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

yes im a greedy cunt Boost junky is correct Stu
Old 10-06-2006, 01:46 PM
  #78  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
PassionFord Gold Member (Male)
Official PassionFord Trader
Administrator
iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Old 11-06-2006, 07:20 AM
  #79  
wimwerf
PassionFord Post Troll
 
wimwerf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: holland
Posts: 2,926
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

So this chip is also available for a standard engine with standard cams..standard comp ratio but with all the stuff needed outside the engine...

or...
Old 11-06-2006, 09:48 AM
  #80  
CossieRich
Did Someone Mention TUV
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
CossieRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 17,169
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Yes. You tell Stu the particulars of your engine and pay him the money. Stu goes away and writes the chip for you. Next day postman knocks on the door with your chip.


Quick Reply: Had my cossie set-up at Marks yesterday -Quick Update



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:45 PM.