Interesting discussion: please contribute...
17-05-2006, 09:12 AM
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Interesting discussion: please contribute...
I have noted quite a few people moaning lately that they cant say the word cunt and are accusing the moderators of being power mad and overzealous by enforcing this solitary rule.... so:
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just teh one word was over teh top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just teh one word was over teh top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
17-05-2006, 09:13 AM
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I think the word cunt is usefull as it is deemed harsh. Makes a point.
I dont think its personally that bad.
I think Vagina is a much worse word
I dont think its personally that bad.
I think Vagina is a much worse word
17-05-2006, 09:14 AM
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In answer to the first question, Dave has a disorder, whereby he uses that word to release anger from his system, and release any pent up frustration.
Franco uses it in every post because he's an unoriginal copying cun.........
To be honest, whatever's the rules is the rules........
Franco uses it in every post because he's an unoriginal copying cun.........
To be honest, whatever's the rules is the rules........
17-05-2006, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
In answer to the first question, Dave has a disorder, whereby he uses that word to release anger from his system, and release any pent up frustration.
17-05-2006, 09:18 AM
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It can be either offensive or funny if used in the right context 
Personally i'm not bothered as I rarely use it un like Dave
Banning all swear words is very difficult as every person is offended by different words
People will just moan about something else if you allow its use
Personally i'm not bothered as I rarely use it un like Dave
Banning all swear words is very difficult as every person is offended by different words
People will just moan about something else if you allow its use
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17-05-2006, 09:21 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
[quote="Stu @ M Developments"]I have noted quite a few people moaning lately that they cant say the word cunt and are accusing the moderators of being power mad and overzealous by enforcing this solitary rule.... so:
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
That we cant type cunt without getting banned
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity,
HELL NO
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it
HELL YES
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
That we cant type cunt without getting banned
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity,
HELL NO
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it
HELL YES
17-05-2006, 09:21 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I have noted quite a few people moaning lately that they cant say the word cunt and are accusing the moderators of being power mad and overzealous by enforcing this solitary rule.... so:
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
Ban someone for saying it, or don't. Don't just 'ignore' the occasional one because it's so-and-such-a-body's mate, or 'he's just having a laugh, isn't he funny'.
17-05-2006, 09:22 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
I can type a sentance without that word, just like i could type a sentance without pretty much any other word, but i dont see why certain words need to be banned in the first place
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
No i dont think swear words should be banned
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
Yes i would prefer it if you unbanned it as some people find it a useful word to express things with and it doesnt offend me
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
I can type a sentance without that word, just like i could type a sentance without pretty much any other word, but i dont see why certain words need to be banned in the first place
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
No i dont think swear words should be banned
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
Yes i would prefer it if you unbanned it as some people find it a useful word to express things with and it doesnt offend me
17-05-2006, 09:25 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
Originally Posted by Steve200+
Ban someone for saying it, or don't. Don't just 'ignore' the occasional one because it's so-and-such-a-body's mate, or 'he's just having a laugh, isn't he funny'.
17-05-2006, 09:31 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
1 - No problem, I like it being banned, i know lots of people find it VERY offensive, the alternatives for it are funny especially the ones used by Dave and Franco in their banter, probably the most entertaining thing on here lately with all the boring bitching with Chip/Phil/Modpower etc. Ban all the spuds till they behave, it's like a fookin primary school playground
2- I like the freedom this site has and feel unmoderated language apart from untC is great. Most people can communicate as they would verbally in real life, lets face it we all swear at some time
3 - No, see my answer to question 1
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
1 - No problem, I like it being banned, i know lots of people find it VERY offensive, the alternatives for it are funny especially the ones used by Dave and Franco in their banter, probably the most entertaining thing on here lately with all the boring bitching with Chip/Phil/Modpower etc. Ban all the spuds till they behave, it's like a fookin primary school playground
2- I like the freedom this site has and feel unmoderated language apart from untC is great. Most people can communicate as they would verbally in real life, lets face it we all swear at some time
3 - No, see my answer to question 1
17-05-2006, 09:37 AM
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1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
yep - i don't really have a problem with it being banned or not, although it's a mystery to me as to why some people find it so offensive. it's only a word ffs!
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
No i don't think all swearing should be banned!
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
probably, yes - would save people from gettng banned over use of a word rather than actually being deliberately abusive to someone for example.
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
yep - i don't really have a problem with it being banned or not, although it's a mystery to me as to why some people find it so offensive. it's only a word ffs!
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
No i don't think all swearing should be banned!
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
probably, yes - would save people from gettng banned over use of a word rather than actually being deliberately abusive to someone for example.
17-05-2006, 09:40 AM
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i really dont care either way, its just a forum who really cares?
its just something to moan about imo, and besides everyone reads the word if its not writen anyway. even if its edited to a . then people would still read the word in their head when they see it anyway.
ie. dave you really are a .
quite obvious aint it!
its just something to moan about imo, and besides everyone reads the word if its not writen anyway. even if its edited to a . then people would still read the word in their head when they see it anyway.
ie. dave you really are a .
quite obvious aint it!
17-05-2006, 09:45 AM
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Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
I can and do generally, but it can be amusing in the right situation
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
I have no problem with banning that word. Don't ban them all though.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
You can't please all of the people all of the time. Those who like the word will be happy, those offended will not.
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Why cant you type a message without using that word?
I can and do generally, but it can be amusing in the right situation
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
I have no problem with banning that word. Don't ban them all though.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
You can't please all of the people all of the time. Those who like the word will be happy, those offended will not.
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
17-05-2006, 09:53 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I have noted quite a few people moaning lately that they cant say the word cunt and are accusing the moderators of being power mad and overzealous by enforcing this solitary rule.... so:
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
The difference being that those who do find it offensive are probably people who don't hear the word every day, and so have not become desensitized to it.
2: No. Don't ban them. Threads would be written in a bland, flat style all the time if this were to happen. Nothing wrong with a bit of colour and tbh it's often hard to express yourself properly without it.
3: This is a toughy.... on the one hand it's my right as a person to say what I want, when I want. On the other hand, organisations have rules, and if you don't like them, you don't have to be a part of them. Further still, there are folks who will argue it's their right to ask that the word not be used.
Now, I honestly feel that the right to say something ranks higher than the right to not have it said. That's just my person opinion.
I would like to know why women in particular find it so offensive yet there's not one word referring to a man's genitalia that's considered too offensive to be used.
Smacks of inequality to me.
But alas, I feel the only way to rectify this once and for all is to code in an option for everybody to either check or uncheck on their profiles:
Filter certain swearwords - Yes or No.
Dunno how hard that is to implement but it's the only way this will go away.
There does seem to be a lot of people being banned lately as well, but that's not to say that it's not because a lot of people are choosing to flout the rules at the moment.
I think the mods do a very hard job and I would hope nobody gets banned for no reason.
17-05-2006, 09:54 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
1) Yes of course people can type a message without saying cnut, they dont write it in every e-mail they type, they dont say it every conversation they have.
I'm sure even Dave Escock isnt sitting round the table at a family meal saying things like... 'Auntie, could you pass the horseradish you old cnut' now is he.....
2) Most Forums accept that they are public forums that are read by many more people that contribute to them and most respect the fact that a certain percentage are going to be children and a certain percentage are going to be wimmin, hence the swearing bans.
3) Keep it banned, its not needed We get VERY uppity about any kind of racism, I am sure women find Cnut as offensive as black people find words like....'Ni...' offensive.
17-05-2006, 09:56 AM
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1. Im not bothered either way, banned or not. if its banned then i wont use it.
2. shouldnt ban all swear words cos its a good way of getting ya point accross.
3. its up to the mods what gets banned or not. we have the priviledge of using the site, not the other way round.
2. shouldnt ban all swear words cos its a good way of getting ya point accross.
3. its up to the mods what gets banned or not. we have the priviledge of using the site, not the other way round.
17-05-2006, 09:59 AM
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1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
17-05-2006, 09:59 AM
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1) I think it is a very harsh word, and could easily be taken very offensively be someone. People should not be calling other ppl cnuts. end of.
2) not in favour of banning other swear words. They are less harsh and used more regularly in everyday language.
3) No. But if ppl could be trusted to moderate themselves we wouldn't need it banned anyway.
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2) not in favour of banning other swear words. They are less harsh and used more regularly in everyday language.
3) No. But if ppl could be trusted to moderate themselves we wouldn't need it banned anyway.
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17-05-2006, 10:03 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
I don't know why some find it so difficult
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
No, the current word list is fine for me
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
Not if it offends some people on here, I really don't see why people feel such a need to use it constantly.
However, having banned it probably has resulted in the opposite effect, it appears to be used a lot more now as a sign of retaliation and mod/people baiting (different subject altogether).
Either ban it and it's variations, or don't do it at all imo.
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
I don't know why some find it so difficult
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
No, the current word list is fine for me
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
Not if it offends some people on here, I really don't see why people feel such a need to use it constantly.
However, having banned it probably has resulted in the opposite effect, it appears to be used a lot more now as a sign of retaliation and mod/people baiting (different subject altogether).
Either ban it and it's variations, or don't do it at all imo.
17-05-2006, 10:04 AM
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My Questions:
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
i dont think anyone cannot type without i dont really know why ppl are bothered but on the other hand surly
rape is a word 100 times worse than cunt
some women get offened by the word i cannot understand why i could understand them being offeneded by the word rape as that word could bring on some awfull memorys / visions
but what is so bad about the word cunt that means its offensive
you dont see anyone moaning about the words dick,prick,cock there all in the same context of refering to the private parts of a male or female
i just dont get what the problem is i once had a gilfriend who hated the word BUT she could not give me any reason why she did
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
i dont think all swear words should be banned no
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
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1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
i dont think anyone cannot type without i dont really know why ppl are bothered but on the other hand surly
rape is a word 100 times worse than cunt
some women get offened by the word i cannot understand why i could understand them being offeneded by the word rape as that word could bring on some awfull memorys / visions
but what is so bad about the word cunt that means its offensive
you dont see anyone moaning about the words dick,prick,cock there all in the same context of refering to the private parts of a male or female
i just dont get what the problem is i once had a gilfriend who hated the word BUT she could not give me any reason why she did
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
i dont think all swear words should be banned no
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
poll
17-05-2006, 10:06 AM
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1. Typing a message with out the word is easy. Just dont think of the word.
2. Banning all swear words would be counter productive as every one probably including you Stu would be banned all the time.
3. I don't really care as I can see both sides of the coin. The word really doesn't bother me at all (but it does bother the females).
When someone calls me a . I just think that a . is a useful thing.
Its the spare skin around it that causes all the problems.
2. Banning all swear words would be counter productive as every one probably including you Stu would be banned all the time.
3. I don't really care as I can see both sides of the coin. The word really doesn't bother me at all (but it does bother the females).
When someone calls me a . I just think that a . is a useful thing.
Its the spare skin around it that causes all the problems.
17-05-2006, 10:08 AM
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I cant believe there's a discussion about this freedom of speach and all that....I dont see why this forum should be changed because someone is easily offended 
freedom of speach and all that....I dont see why this forum should be changed because someone is easily offended
17-05-2006, 10:16 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Steve200+
Ban someone for saying it, or don't. Don't just 'ignore' the occasional one because it's so-and-such-a-body's mate, or 'he's just having a laugh, isn't he funny'.
: C*nt.
: Yes, we get it! You're a fat c-unt.
: And he says Cun.t a lot
: thick c000nt!!
: C**T!!!
: c*nt then
: Yes, we get it! You're a fat c-unt.
: And he says Cun.t a lot
: thick c000nt!!
: C**T!!!
: c*nt then
Those are all quotes from topics available on the first page of the 'search' function in General Discussion. Well-known members, and one mod, and if I could be arsed, I'd guess there's a hell of a lot more...
17-05-2006, 10:18 AM
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No problem with it being banned although it does seem a bit futile to ban just 1 word Seems to cause more grief and work for the mods than its worth imo.
If you ban all swear words from PF it will lose even more of its individuality and we are all adults so no need.
I would not have any words banned at all.
Seems to cause more grief and work for the mods than its worth imo.If you ban all swear words from PF it will lose even more of its individuality and we are all adults so no need.
I would not have any words banned at all.
17-05-2006, 10:36 AM
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maybe i am looking at this wrong but for what its worth
1) If you ban a word then fine i am more than able to put together a sentance without using that word, and honestly fell its over usage is purley down to people wanting to court controversy,
2) a vote to see what should/should not be banned would be a good idea
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
i personally dont use that word very much and deffo on here i dont, so not bothered, although unbanning may cause less grief for your mods
1) If you ban a word then fine i am more than able to put together a sentance without using that word, and honestly fell its over usage is purley down to people wanting to court controversy,
2) a vote to see what should/should not be banned would be a good idea
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
i personally dont use that word very much and deffo on here i dont, so not bothered, although unbanning may cause less grief for your mods
17-05-2006, 10:40 AM
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I dont see why this forum should be changed
Its ALWAYS been banned.. we are talking YEARS mate.. years!
Originally Posted by Steve200+
: C*nt.
: Yes, we get it! You're a fat c-unt.
: And he says Cun.t a lot
: thick c000nt!!
: C**T!!!
: c*nt then
: Yes, we get it! You're a fat c-unt.
: And he says Cun.t a lot
: thick c000nt!!
: C**T!!!
: c*nt then
Those are all quotes from topics available on the first page of the 'search' function in General Discussion. Well-known members, and one mod, and if I could be arsed, I'd guess there's a hell of a lot more...
Maybe read teh rules?
17-05-2006, 10:42 AM
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Re: Interesting discussion: please contribute...
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
1) Whats the problem?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
Why cant you type a message without using that word?
i dont type it much in all honesty
it seems to be a londoner thing (or wannabe londoner thing if you include johnnyb ROFL)
maybe thats because the londoners are what they type so frequently
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
2) Most websites you use ban ALL swear words. Would you rather we ban them all so we have a little more conformity, surely that would save you feeling that banning just the one word was over the top.
if you ban them people will just mispell them to get the same message accrosscvnt
(unt
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
3) Would you prefer that we unbanned it?
17-05-2006, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Steve200+
: C*nt.
: Yes, we get it! You're a fat c-unt.
: And he says Cun.t a lot
: thick c000nt!!
: C**T!!!
: c*nt then
: Yes, we get it! You're a fat c-unt.
: And he says Cun.t a lot
: thick c000nt!!
: C**T!!!
: c*nt then
Maybe read the rules? Sorry mate, wrong end of the stick then... just that I was classing cun.t and c-unt as 'circumventing the swear filter'... But it ain't my board!
I accept your and will now shut up
