Graceland

Does anyone on here use a dry-sump conversion, not too fussed about the brand, but good honest advice would be much appreciated

This is looking a viable option in the E30 conversion due to the bmw sumps being backwards (IE, the well for the sump is at the front of the engine, rather than the rear like on a YB)

So all information and advice please

RichardPON

Speak to Brom - he runs one.

Graceland

Cheers Rich

Cam

A custom oil pick up and sump would be a cheaper solution

Garage19

I would cut the sump/pick up about as suggested above. Pick up needs to be 6mm ish off the bottom of the sump. Best way to check is with playdough!

Graceland

True a custom sump would be cheeper, but the car will be used for a lot of track days all being well, aswell as fast road abuse A custom sump is a nice option, but its a lot of pissing about with measurements and the like, whereas a dry sump is a bolt on affair

Once the engine is ready to go into the car, i'll look into the viability of each option a lot more

WD Pro

I am looking into the same - pace and titan seem to be evenly priced but I cant find anyone that actually uses either !

Charlie Chalk

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Wouldnt mind knowing the cost also?

WD Pro

Kits are approx Ł800 and then you need pipework and tank.

CozzyBrom

CozzyBrom

MAD EVO 4

We use the pace dry sump system on our race car, never failed,

well worth the money

Doug

Fook me Brom there is some unions on that sump lol

What are the gains of running dry sump except surge on track and does it affect oil pressure lower / higher ?



Regards Doug .

CozzyBrom

you can fine tune oil presure ie 60 psi at idle or less
never have oil leaks as the engine is runnin in a vacume even on full boost
i got better set up now running a stage 4 pump cost a forunte in arp fittings n pipe work the engine bay alown cost me Ł1000 to pipe up on oil only

Doug

Ill get me coat Brom do you do finance ? lmao


Seems worth every penny though in the long run !!!!

Azrael

Is 4x4 version somewhere out there?

BIG-BHP RACING

I have it on my engine, it's custom made with a Auto Verdi drysump pump. I don't have any pics now, but I can post that when I get my engine back from my tuner.

Anders.

Graceland

That looks sexual Brom

PAUL S

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Brom - how did you mount the crank sensor as my pace sump does not have the mounting set up that the Ford sump has - any ideas ??

CozzyBrom

make a bracket simple
place it on the other side

WD Pro

Four port pace kit is what I will use

Brom - What size tank is that and are you now scavenging from the turbo ?

Have you retained the standard breater on your engine or blocked it off completely ?

Cheers,

WD

CozzyBrom

i got 3 scaveneng set up
1 turbo
1 bottom of sump
one from the head
you dont run a breather the idea of system is to be totally sealed crankcase
you do fit a safty valve with a spring set to 6psi whch in case of a holed piston or blow up the crank case wont presurise the valve opens and vents the air out

Azrael

Cnasomeone explain to me where crankcase preasure goes...into oil tank?

WD Pro

Thanks Brom,

Where have you fitted the valve, is it a pace item ?

Have you just blanked off the dip stick tube ?

Cheers,

WD

CozzyBrom

there is no presure beacuse the pump suks air n oil mix out of engine at a great rate
the catch tank beathes on its own
the engine has to be totaly sealed everthing blanked off
i will post a pic up of my new engine n pipe work

NUTS RuS

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I had a Pace twin port system on my old Kent OHV engine before selling it to a bloke with a kit car and going 16v.

No problems other than being a bit thirsty during an oil change

Rs Gus

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was gunna say the pace one gracey

justinreiss

if you want any pics or advice on how i did mine just send me your email address and ill send ya pics !
the hardest part was getting a decent welder to weld it all up and not have leaks ! after every reweld i filled it with petrol to find the leaks,
nice to see someone else thinking like me !

Chip

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He sold the car about 2 years ago mate

The Youth.

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lol

3 year old thread!!!

steve

justinreiss

maybe someone on here can advise me then,
i bought the running gear from a friend, i saw it run and even followed it for a few miles on one outing, so i know it didnt smoke before it was removed.
the engine sat in his garage for 2 years till i bought it,
i put it in the e30 and am getting massive clouds of what looks like black smoke when i get back on the gas after backing off or slowing down!
almost no smoke on boost, but even if i drive normally and come off the gas while slowing down, the first time i touch the accelerator i get a big cloud of smoke out the back ! ive changed the turbo and its no different.i fitted a bailys breather system and no change either.
my mechanical hostory is telling me valve stem oil seals or giudes but it was fine before it was removed and sitting in a garage for 2 years shouldnt screw the guides or seals should it ?

Twellsie

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what injectors and chip are you using? sounds like a setup issue to me

Lee_R21Turbo

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Black smoke is overfuelling mate.

Porkie

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Nope Brom still owns that car...

and STILL owes me Ł1500 the cunt....

Graceland

I think Chipper was refering to my old E30 Cosworth Lee - Unless Brom owns it now?

Graceland

And who in their right mind would drag up an ainchant thread

andrewg

i'm in the middle of doing a couple

JonnyBravo

Whilst on the subject of dry sumps and the installation procedures do ALL the takes offs inc the original oil cap need blanking off ?

I've seen them done both ways and always always been curious of the correct answer for this.

m3cosworth

i modded the subframe to fit around the standard sump on my e30 cosworth.

justinreiss

do you have any pics of the front crossmember you modefied to go round the original cossy sump ?