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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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I think this could be good for ford...

I'll explain....

Maybe this might make ford get the finger out and start producing some decent powered cars...

Ie VXR Astra - Ford Rivals with the ST Focus

Ive heard that Vauxhall are planning a VXR version of the Corsa, so maybe that means ford will have to release the Fiesta RS afterall to try and compete with vauxhall...

Should be interesting to see how this all pans out over the next few years.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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hmmmm interesting...

would be good to see Team RS pull their fingers out, fiesta RS would defo be a hit me thinks. Granted they lost SHITLOADS of cash on the Focus RS but they can't let poxhall of all people rob them of performance hatch market.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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So wheres Fords answer to the Vectra VXR.

And Seat, VW, Skoda, every fucker, seem to have fast as fuck hatches these days.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Read the article in EVO mag today with the Vectra VXR going up against the BMW 330i, Mitsi EVO and a Scooby.....

Rated the Vectra VERY VERY Well
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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The Focus and Astra, etc are targeted at the Civic type R The RS brand is dead, ST from now on.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Lets hope the Iosis does the business if it ever gets released, Vectra VXR does seem good...

hatch wise i do think focus ST takes it, doesn't beat astra for power admitedly but does in most other departments. Only close call i see personally is the golf R32, thats impressed me alot...

but super competitive list with golf gti, seat cupra r, bmw 130i ( ) also about.
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RS brand is not DEAD, and if it was why would they prototype the RS fiesta???
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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not dead yet, but focusing all their attention and performance ideas on a diluted version (the ST's) looks as if they're slowly moving away from it...

Live in hope RS will rise from the ashes & own all once again.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_Belfast
RS brand is not DEAD, and if it was why would they prototype the RS fiesta???
Why did they prototype the Focus RS, only to bring out the ST
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I think the ST will be branded the Ford performance vehicle of the future, but i still think that the RS brand will resurface here and there. I cant see them leaving the whole heritage behind.
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They did release the focus rs... as yet they havnt released a focus rs mk2 yet (or have they)

ford also havnt said there isnt going to be anymore RS's..
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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I cant see Ford killing the RS off forever, more than likely they will go with promoting the ST for a while, maybe another year or so, then bring out a new killer RS. Who knows, perhaps the new mondeo in 2007? (I doubt it though, probably be an ST version of that only).

Im only guessing, but It would be nice to let the ST versions run for a while then bring out a stonking new RS Focus or Fiesta.

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Why did they prototype the Focus RS, only to bring out the ST [/quote]

The RS and the ST are aimed at different people in the car market. We keep hearing that there will be a RS version of the ST focus being 4x4 when they find a good solution to the drive train set up for a 340bhp engine.
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340bhp ford as standard??? NO WAY!!!!




It will prob only come with a 2 week warrenty.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_Belfast
It will prob only come with a 2 week warrenty.
thats no problem, If I bought one Id probably be dead in a week !
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
[The RS and the ST are aimed at different people in the car market. We keep hearing that there will be a RS version of the ST focus being 4x4 when they find a good solution to the drive train set up for a 340bhp engine.
Really hope they show what the engine can do becasue its practically sleeping at 215hp....

Focus ST has been so popular fords gona have to realise another RS will go down well
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I know ford lost what was it nearly Ł4000 on each focus RS sold, but look at how well they sold, it didnt exactly take them long to sell the 4501 that they made...

Ford need to get the finger out of their ass and produce a decent powered car as standard. A Mk2 Focus RS with min 300bhp and 4wheel drive is what is needed, something to compete with the likes of the evo and impreza...
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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even with the current engine spec, you can already get 260-300hp from it curtesy of Pumabuild and Wolfe.

anyone know what Volvo have got out of the 5cyl turbo engine so far.?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Does anyone on this board work for TeamRS?

we should try and get some info out of them.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_Belfast
I know ford lost what was it nearly Ł4000 on each focus RS sold, but look at how well they sold, it didnt exactly take them long to sell the 4501 that they made...
The the money they are making on buying back those mk1 Focus RS's. My local dealer has had 2 low milage ones in the last 6 months and they both sold for Ł17,999 even tho they 3 yrs old Money for old rope anyone ?
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Hatchbacks arent doing well?? Everywhere i look there are focus st's so they must be selling well.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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i dont know if its just me but it seems like the whole of the country are absolutly gagging for another rs car even hardened italian sports car lovers still show respect for a looked after cossie 10 years on lets face it when ford releases a beefed up car like the focus st recently britain goes mental for it you just dont get the same admiration from the pubilic when vauxhall do the same do ya!
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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which is why i think that ford will only release an rs maybe every 5+ years, to keep the whole appeal with them.
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Yea keep the exclusivity of the RS brand...

but it should be spread a little across the range. Focus and fiesta in my opinion...
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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I agree adam.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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just wait a bit, latter this year if all goes well, ford should let us see the new rs. the engine is being tested at the moment and it could be used in the focus and / or the new mondeo

I think you will find that ford will use the st badge like the old xr and the rs will be a more limited special hard core vershion
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Oooo Duncoss expain more.....
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when will we see COSWORTH grace our fords again is what i want to know.
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I think a Mondeo RS would be fantastic. It's the car that replaced the Sierra so why not?
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DogSmoke
I think a Mondeo RS would be fantastic. It's the car that replaced the Sierra so why not?
hell yes

a mondeo rs cosworth hmm

i don't really think it will all happen but its nice to dream
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Originally Posted by DogSmoke
I think a Mondeo RS would be fantastic. It's the car that replaced the Sierra so why not?
Mondeo doesn't do rallies for a start. The thing is Ford has said for years now they'll bring out a Focus RS and all that happened was a token FWD, that became a more powerful ST version. As for having transmission problems as to the delay, that's BS IMO, they could just go to Mitsubishi or Subaru or Audi, etc, etc and ask them how it's done I hope they do bring one out, but would've thought by now something would have transpired when you think how many RS models they had in the 70's/80's/90's
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FastFordChris
when will we see COSWORTH grace our fords again is what i want to know.
if only...

that would be the ultimate but REALLY can't see them going mainstream with cosworth in near or distant future really...

again live in hope
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We can all live and dream i guess....
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