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Old 22-02-2006, 10:08 PM
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Old 22-02-2006, 10:10 PM
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Not that fast, I destroyed one of them in the saph and the brakes probably cost more than the saph
Old 22-02-2006, 10:11 PM
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Am sure reyland or mike rainbird both are traders on here, could sort you out with a set of apracing 6 pots and hoooooge disks
Old 24-02-2006, 09:14 AM
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Hi Mike,
Just done some quick research and the RS6 already uses a two-piece disc with alloy centre (front and rear), hence why the OE ones are so expensive.

However, the OE Pagid pads are too soft and catch fire if pushed hard (as you know ). My recommendation would be to bite the bullit and replace the OE discs, but go for the higher spec Pagid pads (not sure what compound, but if you ask here www.rs6.com they will be able to tell you the exact ones), braided hoses and some Castrol SRF brake fluid.

With this fitted, the brakes are good enough to drive round the Ring with no problems. However, you do have to adopt the "brake hard and for short periods" type of braking to protect them from over-heating, as the car weighs so much.

You can get replacement all steel discs, but they are a lot heavier and won't be as good as the OE ones (but will be cheaper, but will last even shorter).
Old 24-02-2006, 09:32 AM
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it's been a problem for almost all the car mags that tested the rs6
they all complained that the brakes weren't up to the job of stopping the car consistently after some high speed runs

there was a write up in top gear where they set fire to the brakes too

so i'd say mike was right in his thinking about the pads, but if you go for pads that don't catch fire, you have to go with the limited lifetime of the components
Old 24-02-2006, 09:41 AM
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The Pagid pads are "disc friendly", it is just if you put too much heat into the discs you get a problem, hence the braking late, but HARD method of braking to prevent warpage.

Obviously the pads will wear out a lot more quickly with this method.

The other thing is to somehow remove 300kg out of the car .
Old 24-02-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
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haha.....ya right.... So either the captain of the RS6 was blindfolded and felt sorry for you or the engine was only running on 2 cylinders

Im own and drive many fast cars and honestly, unless the Saph has been at Martin Reyland or Mike Rainbird with a cheque of 15000 quid there is no way u even get close to an RS6´s exhaust pipe other than in a parking lot....


cheers,

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Couldn't give a shit if you believe me or not tbh.

I went round the outside of one on a roundabout trying to bait a Scooby.
the scooby wouldn't play but the RS6 glued himself to my bumper.

Traffic cleared on the motorway and from 70-150 I completely nailed him.

Saph Cossie 1250kg, 380bhp = 304bhp/ton

Audi RS6 1660kg, 450bhp = 271bhp/ton

What's difficult to understand about that
Old 24-02-2006, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Saph Cossie 1250kg, 380bhp = 304bhp/ton

Audi RS6 1660kg, 450bhp = 271bhp/ton
Pub Figures.... that only tells what happens at 6200rpm... what about the other 4000rpm you both used?

Has to be said, would be hard to "Destroy" an RS6 with only an extra 30bhp too.... A little exageration maybe? Or he didnt try as hard as you did perhaps?
Old 24-02-2006, 10:23 AM
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wheres tiff to defend the rs6 front
Old 24-02-2006, 10:28 AM
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As said, I know what happened and he was trying, he was no more than 2ft from my bumper for about a 1000 yards whilst we waited for traffic to clear.

30bhp added to 4x4 transmission losses and the much shorter gearing of my T5 I would expect as well.

Don't care if any believes me or not tbh, I was there.

The cossie was slow compared to the bike anyway
Old 24-02-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
wheres tiff to defend the rs6 front
I'll defend the RS6, it's a fantastic car.

Not the fastest thing on the roads by a long chalk though.
Old 24-02-2006, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Originally Posted by GARETH T
wheres tiff to defend the rs6 front
I'll defend the RS6, it's a fantastic car.

Not the fastest thing on the roads by a long chalk though.
it was a joke mate,, i just know that tiff is inlove with them

if i was in a differnt position i would LOVE one to drive everyday
Old 24-02-2006, 10:35 AM
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Yea, I know Tiff has a liking for them, so do I.

I'd like one just like the one I beat.

A big red estate, looked absolutely mint (disappearing in my rear view mirror )

the new ones have got the Gallardo V10
Old 24-02-2006, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Yea, I know Tiff has a liking for them, so do I.

I'd like one just like the one I beat.

A big red estate, looked absolutely mint (disappearing in my rear view mirror )

the new ones have got the Gallardo V10
the gallardo engine is in the S6,,, dont think they have made a new rs6 yet

there was a red rs6 avant on ebay last week,, its been on and off ebay a few times,, maybe he'll sell it to me cheap,,,, cheap cheap
Old 24-02-2006, 10:38 AM
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What spec was your saff?

I was side by side with a blue RS6 avant down the M20 for about 5 miles, and I couldn't lose it whatsoever!

Mine was 330bhp 2wd.
Old 24-02-2006, 10:40 AM
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T34 0.63, Greys, BD10's, RS500 cooler, Mongoose, 32psi peak, 28 held
Old 24-02-2006, 10:41 AM
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Not entirely true the Gallado has a slightly different version of the Audi S6 Engine if you ask me

Still bling though
Old 24-02-2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Not entirely true the Gallado has a slightly different version of the Audi S6 Engine if you ask me

Still bling though
ya you are right,,, the power is all different so i guess it got different head and cams
Old 24-02-2006, 10:42 AM
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doh, TOO slow!
Old 24-02-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
Stu :

lol....nice one....the man that knows figures best said it all


Michael


lil question on the side : can u do the RS6 ecu ??
Don't you think you should sort the brakes first .
Old 24-02-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
Stu :

lol....nice one....the man that knows figures best said it all


Michael


lil question on the side : can u do the RS6 ecu ??
stu lists rs6 in his list

http://www.remapping.co.uk/

Old 24-02-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
As said, I know what happened and he was trying, he was no more than 2ft from my bumper for about a 1000 yards whilst we waited for traffic to clear.

30bhp added to 4x4 transmission losses and the much shorter gearing of my T5 I would expect as well.

Don't care if any believes me or not tbh, I was there.

The cossie was slow compared to the bike anyway
I totally believe you nailed the RS6,and anyone who says the driver of it wasnt trying against you. Would he really want an old Ford to kick his arse.hmmm.

All i can say is that my 400/400 4x4 is considerably quicker from 80-170 than my E39 M5 which incidentally has the same performance as the RS6!
Old 24-02-2006, 07:07 PM
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you're all whimps i dusted one of these

http://www.lamborghini.co.uk/?sectio...del=murcielago

in a 1.2 corsa away from the lights the other day

(ok, so he was in the left turn filter lane and the lights were red for him, but it still counts )
Old 24-02-2006, 07:36 PM
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Stop press:

"Modded car beats standard factory car shocker!"
Old 24-02-2006, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Ramsay
Stop press:

"Modded car beats standard factory car shocker!"
gets on my nerves when people say that tying to take the piss.

it takes a lot for a car to be modded to beat summat thats meant to be loads faster...

if it was easy everyone would just put an exhaust on a saxo and go beating macca F1s
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gets on my nerves when people say that tying to take the piss.

it takes a lot for a car to be modded to beat summat thats meant to be loads faster...

if it was easy everyone would just put an exhaust on a saxo and go beating macca F1s
Typical attitude on here though these days isn't it?

New guy asks a simple question about his car brakes and gets someone on his back saying his car's slow?

Wonder why people bother

I would have the guy's RS6 over ANY Ford - anyone who wouldn't has the Ford blinkers on as usual - what a surprise
Old 25-02-2006, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Ramsay
Stop press:

"Modded car beats standard factory car shocker!"


says someone about a car with 8cyl 4.2 litre twin turbo against a 4cyl 2litre turbo

if someone gonna race in a standard car against another car and loses...so what its standard then...thats the risc you take...there is always a chance you could loose because the other car is modded....

if someone is driving around in a macca f1...and he is gonna race against an escort and he loses....would be stupid to say.."yeah but my car is standard"....
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Originally Posted by Alan Ramsay
gets on my nerves when people say that tying to take the piss.

it takes a lot for a car to be modded to beat summat thats meant to be loads faster...

if it was easy everyone would just put an exhaust on a saxo and go beating macca F1s
Typical attitude on here though these days isn't it?

New guy asks a simple question about his car brakes and gets someone on his back saying his car's slow?

Wonder why people bother

I would have the guy's RS6 over ANY Ford - anyone who wouldn't has the Ford blinkers on as usual - what a surprise
i cant see steves attitude in there

and i dont think anyone on here would call our new friends car slow
Old 25-02-2006, 12:07 PM
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I wasn't having a go at the guys car and anyone who would choose any Ford bar the GT over a nice RS6 has a few screws loose.

As for Ford blinkers. Erm I don't think so.
Out of 27 cars and bikes I've owned 2 shonky Fords.

A Ł40 Sierra for cheap transport for about 5 months and my Sierra Cosworth.
Broke that for spares over a year ago now

The only interest I have in Fords is the cheap accessible performance of the turbo charged RS models.

I wasnt slagging his car off, just bringing up a fun little play on the motorway.

He said it was fast, I simply said it wasn't that fast. Hardly calling it 'slow'
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[quote="Alan Ramsay"]
I would have the guy's RS6 over ANY Ford -

ditto,,....ok, bar the gt.....
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Originally Posted by lookatmasexycossie
I would have the guy's RS6 over ANY Ford -

ditto,,....ok, bar the gt.....

tbh id rather have alot of fords over an rs6. i do love them, and id buy one if i could afford one, but id rather have martin hadlands escos, or even a shonky mk4 (jamie@jamsports... when its finished )






the rs6 is still a VERY nice car
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[quote="lookatmasexycossie"]
Originally Posted by Alan Ramsay
I would have the guy's RS6 over ANY Ford -

ditto,,....ok, bar the gt.....
ok...so a rs6 is nicer then the rs200 evo....
Old 25-02-2006, 01:18 PM
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[quote="wimwerf"]
Originally Posted by lookatmasexycossie
Originally Posted by Alan Ramsay
I would have the guy's RS6 over ANY Ford -

ditto,,....ok, bar the gt.....
ok...so a rs6 is nicer then the rs200 evo....
Comparing two completely different cars there.

If I was running one car as daily transport then yes, an RS6 would be better than an RS200


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