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13-02-2006, 07:56 PM
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Standard rod's are roughly on the limit on 20psi boost, if the engine's been well looked after it should last. Mine's knocking on the door of 135k witht he original engine and still pushe's out 190 odd horses. The engine is tired, and will need rebuilding, but it's still going strong 
13-02-2006, 08:41 PM
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I agree with the fact that when the engine does blow (and it will), its going to take the head and Turbo with it. Keeeeeeerching!!
Oh well, with a GT28 on the Primary Designs manifold and that fancy head should be a recipe for some BIG power, no?
Oh well, with a GT28 on the Primary Designs manifold and that fancy head should be a recipe for some BIG power, no?
13-02-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Oh well, with a GT28 on the Primary Designs manifold and that fancy head should be a recipe for some BIG power, no?
13-02-2006, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Oh well, with a GT28 on the Primary Designs manifold and that fancy head should be a recipe for some BIG power, no?
I remember back in the Day when it was half of what it was now and the crossroad inident when you came down to see me 
Lucky she is still here today ay And Wes im sick of seeing em
13-02-2006, 09:12 PM
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Evening all
Thanks for all the support.
We're pretty excited to see what the new bits do, but to be honest we're not expecting a massive gain in top end power.
The turbo isn't a simple GT28 though, it uses a GT28 dual roller bearing assembly with a GT25 compressor wheel and an Inconel GT30 turbine wheel.
We're told it should be good to run 280bhp ish all day long and if pushed might see 300bhp
Obviously we wont get anywhere near that as we're pretty sure the standard bottom end would shit itself due to the increase in boost required run those sort of figures.
The main thing we're after is improving the midrange power and low down torque (to kick Daves arse out the corners at Brands
) , which is why the turbo has been kept small.
It should be getting fitted this week along with the new manifold so will be interesting to see what happens.
All excited now
Thanks for all the support.
We're pretty excited to see what the new bits do, but to be honest we're not expecting a massive gain in top end power.
The turbo isn't a simple GT28 though, it uses a GT28 dual roller bearing assembly with a GT25 compressor wheel and an Inconel GT30 turbine wheel.
We're told it should be good to run 280bhp ish all day long and if pushed might see 300bhp
Obviously we wont get anywhere near that as we're pretty sure the standard bottom end would shit itself due to the increase in boost required run those sort of figures.
The main thing we're after is improving the midrange power and low down torque (to kick Daves arse out the corners at Brands
) , which is why the turbo has been kept small. It should be getting fitted this week along with the new manifold so will be interesting to see what happens.
All excited now
13-02-2006, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LEEUK_RS
nick
any future plans on getting anything done to the bottom end ?
any future plans on getting anything done to the bottom end ?
It's reliable, doesn't smoke, knock, rattle and makes good power.
As soon as it starts to show signs of wear, we'll put a proper bottom end in, but despite the abuse it gets, and it does get some serious abuse, it just seems to hold together fine.
13-02-2006, 09:44 PM
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Good on u - i dont think it will break personally if set up right.
But, the turbo description does not make sense. GT25 or GT28 indicates the size of the turbine wheel. The compressor wheel is then described by it's diameter and trim. GT2871R is a GT28 exhasut wheel, with a 71mm compressor, roller core.
So, if u are using a GT30 turbine wheel, then the turbo is a GT30!
Good on u - i dont think it will break personally if set up right.
But, the turbo description does not make sense. GT25 or GT28 indicates the size of the turbine wheel. The compressor wheel is then described by it's diameter and trim. GT2871R is a GT28 exhasut wheel, with a 71mm compressor, roller core.
So, if u are using a GT30 turbine wheel, then the turbo is a GT30!
13-02-2006, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
PF NICK
Good on u - i dont think it will break personally if set up right.
But, the turbo description does not make sense. GT25 or GT28 indicates the size of the turbine wheel. The compressor wheel is then described by it's diameter and trim. GT2871R is a GT28 exhasut wheel, with a 71mm compressor, roller core.
So, if u are using a GT30 turbine wheel, then the turbo is a GT30!
Good on u - i dont think it will break personally if set up right.
But, the turbo description does not make sense. GT25 or GT28 indicates the size of the turbine wheel. The compressor wheel is then described by it's diameter and trim. GT2871R is a GT28 exhasut wheel, with a 71mm compressor, roller core.
So, if u are using a GT30 turbine wheel, then the turbo is a GT30!
I'm only going on the spec sheet I was given with the turbo. I told them what I wanted it to do, and they specced it to my enigne, taking my requirements into consideration.
13-02-2006, 09:56 PM
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I know mate, a lot of these places just make up names for turbos 
Do you know the dimensions/trim of the wheel, or have a compressor map? What is A/R is the back? Very intersted to see how it goes
Do you know the dimensions/trim of the wheel, or have a compressor map? What is A/R is the back? Very intersted to see how it goes
13-02-2006, 10:03 PM
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0.42 a/r high flow compressor housing, modified GT25V hi-flow compressor wheel, GT30 series 84 trim low inertia inconel turbine wheel, modified GT28 bearing housing with angular contact twin roller bearing cartridge
Part number is given as GT25/30
Part number is given as GT25/30
13-02-2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by John Laverick
Only problem is when it does let go and you smash your Stage 3 head...gt turbo and manifold to bits!!
Then you've got to start all over again!
Then you've got to start all over again!
Originally Posted by PF NICK
Originally Posted by LEEUK_RS
nick
any future plans on getting anything done to the bottom end ?
any future plans on getting anything done to the bottom end ?
It's reliable, doesn't smoke, knock, rattle and makes good power.
As soon as it starts to show signs of wear, we'll put a proper bottom end in, but despite the abuse it gets, and it does get some serious abuse, it just seems to hold together fine.
It really isnt worth the risk
13-02-2006, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by John Laverick
Only problem is when it does let go and you smash your Stage 3 head...gt turbo and manifold to bits!!
Then you've got to start all over again!
Then you've got to start all over again!
Originally Posted by PF NICK
Originally Posted by LEEUK_RS
nick
any future plans on getting anything done to the bottom end ?
any future plans on getting anything done to the bottom end ?
It's reliable, doesn't smoke, knock, rattle and makes good power.
As soon as it starts to show signs of wear, we'll put a proper bottom end in, but despite the abuse it gets, and it does get some serious abuse, it just seems to hold together fine.
It really isnt worth the riskIt will go eventually and a plan is forming to assemble a replacement before the current one dies and swap it over. But as all is well at the moment, we're not really in a hurry to do it.
13-02-2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PF NICK
It will go eventually and a plan is forming to assemble a replacement before the current one dies and swap it over. But as all is well at the moment, we're not really in a hurry to do it.
13-02-2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by PF NICK
It will go eventually and a plan is forming to assemble a replacement before the current one dies and swap it over. But as all is well at the moment, we're not really in a hurry to do it.
Thanks Andy
13-02-2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PF NICK
Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Nick you should be in bed by now
working I mean.
13-02-2006, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
Originally Posted by PF NICK
Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Nick you should be in bed by now
I want to be in bed with nick too.
13-02-2006, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Danny yor not working your messing about in the workshop
Nick just likes to sleep at his desk.
13-02-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JAMSPORT DAN
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Originally Posted by PF NICK
Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Nick you should be in bed by now
I want to be in bed with nick too. Any room for a another brother?
3's a crowd my man.
13-02-2006, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Dj dan nut case 
Just spoke too the misses about donnington air horn
I got it on the phone some where
Just spoke too the misses about donnington air horn
I got it on the phone some where
13-02-2006, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Dj dan nut case
Just spoke too the misses about donnington air horn
I got it on the phone some where
Just spoke too the misses about donnington air horn
I got it on the phone some where
F**K........Do you remember that.........
Get it up on here man...................OMG
13-02-2006, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4pete
Dj dan nut case
Just spoke too the misses about donnington air horn
I got it on the phone some where
Just spoke too the misses about donnington air horn
I got it on the phone some where
No Way I forgot all about that!
That was a proper comedy moment
I'm not getting involved in that up there ^^^. I'll leave you lot in bed together, i'm off to get some sleep
13-02-2006, 11:08 PM
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slightly off topic now but someone please email that video to meBack on topic, thanks to everyone who's replied or commented, I cant go through them individually cos it's late and i can't see properly anymore, but we still have a few more bits and pieces up our sleeves and it's going to get a whole lot more interesting - watch this space
Actually a better place to be watching is the mag, 'cos it'll be in there first
I am definitely going to bed now, and none of you lot are coming with me