General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

My RR Graphs.........

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-02-2006, 06:27 PM
  #1  
Christian and Beccy
#1 in Spelling Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Christian and Beccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 23,329
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default My RR Graphs.........

Here are the graphs from my 2 set's of Power Runs that were both done this week. There were no changes made to the set-up of the car leading up to or between these 2 runs. The car is exactly as it was at Brunters in November. Sorry about the Digi photo's of the graphs!!

First, SCA in Norwich........



It is clear from this run that the car lost traction as it peaked in boost, hence the high peak Torque figure. However, once it regained traction, the remainder of the run is smooth and as expected.

289.1bhp at the wheels.
and I would estimate a more believable peak of 290lb/ft of Torque and around 275lb/ft Torque at 6000rpm.

Next, todays run at Power Engineering.......



The only really odd thing about that run is the RPM point at which peak power was achieved. My car rev's to 7000rpm and it clearly hit the limiter. However, if you stand back and analyse both sets of figures, they are actually remarkably close.

So, overall I am over the moon with the results. Comfortably into the 300bhp bracket on a standard Crank, standard Head Gasket and standard Cast Exhaust Manifold.

Chris at PE commented that he thought that it would benefit from more advance at the top. This was mainly due to the fact that the Exhaust Manifold around the collector was practically transparent by the end of the run. More advance would have most likely increased the power slightly. Personally, I think it needs a Tubular Manifold.
Old 04-02-2006, 06:34 PM
  #2  
Mark Shead
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Mark Shead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Marlow Bucks
Posts: 5,472
Received 223 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Christian and Beccy

Out of interest where you monitoring Intake temp through the power run,
I ran a evo last week and the diff from road to RR was a 4c increase in temp, So you could safely run the cars for a substantal lenght of time with no problems.

Mark
Old 04-02-2006, 06:38 PM
  #3  
rapidcossie
10K+ Poster!!
 
rapidcossie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: scotland
Posts: 14,907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

well done christian!
Old 04-02-2006, 06:41 PM
  #4  
Karl
Norris Motorsport
 
Karl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 3,437
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Excellent result Christian!!!!
Old 04-02-2006, 06:43 PM
  #5  
Christian and Beccy
#1 in Spelling Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Christian and Beccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 23,329
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Karl
Excellent result Christian!!!!
Mainly to dispel the rumour that it had made 340bhp, thanks to someone from SCA giving out info that they shouldn't have been divulging inaccurately!!
Old 04-02-2006, 06:44 PM
  #6  
dumped
Advanced PassionFord User
 
dumped's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

looks like a mini T4'd cossie graph
Old 04-02-2006, 07:08 PM
  #7  
TheBishMan
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
TheBishMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kent
Posts: 6,413
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Excellent figures Christian, you're motor never fails to impress me!
Old 04-02-2006, 07:09 PM
  #8  
Christian and Beccy
#1 in Spelling Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Christian and Beccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 23,329
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TheBishMan
Excellent figures Christian, you're motor never fails to impress me!
Thanks!!
Old 04-02-2006, 07:14 PM
  #9  
James Raby
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
James Raby's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: OTB (On the Beach), Norfolk
Posts: 6,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

At least you have a comparison now
Old 04-02-2006, 07:16 PM
  #10  
Rippers
Monte Geek
 
Rippers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cheshunt, Herts
Posts: 8,812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Christian your engine bay looked awesome, really sounded nice on the rollers and what a power figure Credit to yourself
Old 04-02-2006, 07:17 PM
  #11  
KSA-Cossie
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Shutting down jap crap
Posts: 25,439
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Good job m8.
Old 04-02-2006, 07:21 PM
  #12  
MikeR
PassionFord Post Whore!!

 
MikeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This car is something special, i was in 6th and had to find 3/4 to catch up with him (traffic ahead)and he was only 5 car lenghs ahead when he put his foot down and i reacted straight away, it pulled away like nobodys buisness

A very impressive car with loud ALS in tunnels scared the shit out of my misses

Mike
Old 04-02-2006, 07:24 PM
  #13  
Hardeep_Singh
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Hardeep_Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,942
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

weldone christian
Old 04-02-2006, 07:24 PM
  #14  
Andy-R
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Andy-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,928
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Really impressed with your cars figures Christian

[qoute]The only really odd thing about that run is the RPM point at which peak power was achieved. My car rev's to 7000rpm and it clearly hit the limiter. However, if you stand back and analyse both sets of figures, they are actually remarkably close[/quote]

That would make sence though as your power isnt dropping of dramaticaly after hitting peak power.
Old 04-02-2006, 07:31 PM
  #15  
Fiecos Dan
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: S/E Kent, Thanet
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default



but wot was the power @ the wheels at PE?
Old 04-02-2006, 09:12 PM
  #16  
-beefy-
formerly beefy-rst-2
iTrader: (6)
 
-beefy-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: cleveland rsoc
Posts: 10,072
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

wekk done fella ,


so whats in store next for the car then ????

Old 04-02-2006, 09:30 PM
  #17  
Ad4m RST
BANNED
BANNED
 
Ad4m RST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Posts: 6,160
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

awesome power

Tubular manifold definitely the way forward now
Old 04-02-2006, 10:05 PM
  #18  
adamS2RST
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
adamS2RST's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bucks
Posts: 17,976
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Awesome mate.
Old 04-02-2006, 10:05 PM
  #19  
Christian and Beccy
#1 in Spelling Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Christian and Beccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 23,329
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ad4m RST
awesome power

Tubular manifold definitely the way forward now
Yes, I just need to find a decent/affordable one now.
Old 04-02-2006, 10:36 PM
  #20  
Bobby Singh
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Bobby Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Middlesex & Windsor
Posts: 2,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Excellent result
Old 04-02-2006, 10:53 PM
  #21  
Lou Lou.
10K+ Poster!!

 
Lou Lou.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: EsSEX ;)
Posts: 12,518
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wicked result i didnt have a chance to look at your motor closely but it sounded the bollox
Old 04-02-2006, 11:00 PM
  #22  
T28 RST
Ok then
 
T28 RST's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: GLASGOW
Posts: 4,300
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Excellent power there
Old 04-02-2006, 11:31 PM
  #23  
-beefy-
formerly beefy-rst-2
iTrader: (6)
 
-beefy-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: cleveland rsoc
Posts: 10,072
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

what the spec of your car mate ???

kn iknow theyl be the odd secrative bit in there but just looking to c what uve got to get that power thanks
Old 05-02-2006, 01:25 AM
  #24  
89xr2
Brap!
 
89xr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: N-Town
Posts: 5,214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Excellent results for your car Christian. Sounds like an utter beast. I will really have to try and get up to APT one day to take a look at it. I'll have to try and talk pants into driving me there one weekend

Hope the power was as you expected if not better
Old 05-02-2006, 06:54 AM
  #25  
Rob M666SCC
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!

 
Rob M666SCC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: ST Albans Car Clinic
Posts: 1,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by Ad4m RST
awesome power

Tubular manifold definitely the way forward now
Yes, I just need to find a decent/affordable one now.
We had a 400bhp Zetec on a std manifold on the rollers last week so i doubt its that restrictive tbh......


Primary designs are making a manifold fot the rst.... it'll be good but def not cheap
Old 05-02-2006, 10:04 AM
  #26  
adamS2RST
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
adamS2RST's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bucks
Posts: 17,976
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

[quote="Rob@SCC Performance"]
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by Ad4m RST
awesome power

Tubular manifold definitely the way forward now
Yes, I just need to find a decent/affordable one now.

Primary designs are making a manifold fot the rst.... it'll be good but def not cheap
Old 06-02-2006, 11:22 AM
  #27  
Rick
15K+ Super Poster!!

 
Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Stockport, Cheshire
Posts: 15,885
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Awesome graph Christian

Regarding the rpm issue, Tims appears to be suffering the same problem - is ur limiter set to 7k?
Old 06-02-2006, 11:30 AM
  #28  
andyt
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
andyt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 4,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

nice and a big well done mate
Old 06-02-2006, 11:33 AM
  #29  
Christian and Beccy
#1 in Spelling Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Christian and Beccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 23,329
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rick
Awesome graph Christian

Regarding the rpm issue, Tims appears to be suffering the same problem - is ur limiter set to 7k?
Yes and my Blitz unit recorded its usual 7100rpm Peak. (it records a very slightly higher peak as most do, due to 'shock' of hitting the limiter).
Old 06-02-2006, 12:04 PM
  #30  
Linsay
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Linsay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,909
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Well done
Old 06-02-2006, 12:54 PM
  #31  
Rick
15K+ Super Poster!!

 
Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Stockport, Cheshire
Posts: 15,885
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

actually, thinking about it, RR rev counters have been known to be quite a bit out...
Old 06-02-2006, 12:58 PM
  #32  
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: ...
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Nice one
Old 06-02-2006, 01:01 PM
  #33  
Andy-R
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Andy-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,928
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As above a good manifold should see your peak power beyond 7000rpm & your Peak[read rev limit] display on your Blitz unit wherever you dare rev it to.


Best of luck with wherever you choose to go with your car next, more to come me thinks
Old 06-02-2006, 01:15 PM
  #34  
Beach
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Beach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Belper
Posts: 3,244
Received 24 Likes on 18 Posts
Default Re: My RR Graphs.........

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Here are the graphs from my 2 set's of Power Runs that were both done this week. There were no changes made to the set-up of the car leading up to or between these 2 runs. The car is exactly as it was at Brunters in November. Sorry about the Digi photo's of the graphs!!

First, SCA in Norwich........



It is clear from this run that the car lost traction as it peaked in boost, hence the high peak Torque figure. However, once it regained traction, the remainder of the run is smooth and as expected.

289.1bhp at the wheels.
and I would estimate a more believable peak of 290lb/ft of Torque and around 275lb/ft Torque at 6000rpm.

Next, todays run at Power Engineering.......



The only really odd thing about that run is the RPM point at which peak power was achieved. My car rev's to 7000rpm and it clearly hit the limiter. However, if you stand back and analyse both sets of figures, they are actually remarkably close.

So, overall I am over the moon with the results. Comfortably into the 300bhp bracket on a standard Crank, standard Head Gasket and standard Cast Exhaust Manifold.

Chris at PE commented that he thought that it would benefit from more advance at the top. This was mainly due to the fact that the Exhaust Manifold around the collector was practically transparent by the end of the run. More advance would have most likely increased the power slightly. Personally, I think it needs a Tubular Manifold.
Good results Christian, was looking forward to having a butchers at urs and Tony's cars as ive never seen them in the flesh before.

Theres lots of good genuine high power RST's coming out to play recently, i may have to purchase one in the next couple of years as i do miss my s2 Cant let you, tim,ollie and tony keep getting all the fame
Old 06-02-2006, 01:31 PM
  #35  
Dan
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Local, when i'm home...
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Excellent mate, nice one!




All times are GMT. The time now is 03:41 PM.