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Old 09-02-2013, 02:00 PM
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Default saff cosworth 4x4 front shocks vs escort cosworth 4x4 front shocks

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are saff cosworth 4x4 front shock absorbers the same fitment type as escort cosworth 4x4 shock absorbers
i.e will escort cosworth front shocks fit on a saff 4x4 cosworth with no fitting problems ????
Old 09-02-2013, 02:04 PM
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yes they are exactly the same

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They aint.

Escos spring cup is higher than the 4x4 Saff spring cup.
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Escort on the left
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other than that they are the same.
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Originally Posted by mk22door
other than that they are the same.
well done i thought they were the same lol
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I though tit was just Koni's that had the shorter spring cup!
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All I can tell you is the struts in the picture are both original, not aftermarket.

It was Dojj who told me.
Old 12-02-2013, 01:14 AM
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Hi mate whats the measurement from the bottom of the shock to the spring cup if you dont mind measuring both shocks.........Cheers
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Sorry mate the Escort struts have been fitted to my Saff and the Saff struts I didn't end up buying.
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No prob mate, cheers
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out of intrest dose that mean the escort is heavier on the front or are the springs shorter ? as the spring seat being higher it would lift the ride hight of the car ?
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I doubt the escort is any heavier than a 4x4 Saff, I don't know the reasons why the spring cup is higher?

The EScos had 8x16 wheels where as the 4x4 Saff had 7 x15? I think?

I'd hazard a guess at it being to do with fitting the wheels they had in mind with the 4x4 Sierra stuff in the escort wings?

I really don't know mate
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i think your spot on with the wheel width as i have 7.5" wheels on the 4x4 sierra cosworth set up with coilovers and there is not much room between coilover and tyre at 8" i recon it would be on it or a baw hair space lol
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The Escort wheels still fit a sapph. I think it's more the tyres that are used by the Escort that might be a problem to fit a sapph. 225/45 R16 is a bit bigger than the 205/45 R16, which the sapph would need to keep the same tyre radius as standard.

Fitting the Escort struts to a Sapph would increase the ride height on a Sapph though.
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thats a fairly wide tyre at 225 , i run 215 and dont think i would go wider on the front as its always good to see day light between a moving bit and a bit that dose not move lol , it would be down to wheel offset too so alot of diffrent ways to mess around with
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Originally Posted by Marc sierra
Fitting the Escort struts to a Sapph would increase the ride height on a Sapph though.
I've yet to see how it's going to pan out with the ride height.

I was wanting to find some lowering springs for a V6 xr4x4, when I dug into it all the part numbers where the same for 4 & 6 cylinder models - I would expect the V6 springs to be a different rate for the extra weight of the engine, but not, even one supplier told me they are all made the same!

Anyway, I stick the BOA in my Saff using all the Granada 24v stuff minus the shocks and springs - I found the Escos struts local, cheap and only done 40 thousand miles, at that time I couldn't find any cheap second hand XR struts so slapped them on with standard sierra pinto springs Just to get it rolling again as it's in a friends garage getting welding etc and he wanted it to be moveable.

I think dojj has since said about the ride height, but i'm hoping if I get some decent springs and the weight of the engine might balance it out - shall have to weight and see.
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you could talk to gaz and get two coilovers speced for the car with that engine , dont think it will be cheap mind you my two front were around £350 i think and that was them speced to the pickup with its engine
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Yeah, a bit out of my reach that mate
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