bigluke200

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Hi guys,
Feeling a bit of a wally this evening...
Spent all afternoon bolting all of the ancillaries on to the new engine for my 3door...

But.. Used the same drop bracket which had no issues on my old 205 engine but on this engine it seems to make the alternator belts too short! I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but I just couldn't see it! Any ideas? See in the pics there is no way the hole in the alternator will line up with the slot in the tensioner...







Any ideas guys? Gonna lose sleep over it

Rob Virgo

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Move bracket to top bolt ??

Glenn_

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Its not that bracket between the block and the alternator bracket is it???.

bigluke200

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You mean the tensioner bracket? Move it up to the water pump bolt to the right of it? Although it would then fit I'd know that it's still not the correct way if you get what I mean...

Or do you mean the drop bracket?

Could it be that the new belts haven't got as much slack in them? I offered the old ones up quickly and they looked the same size at a glance.

Cheers, Luke.

Rs5oo

I'm pretty sure that you have to use a different adjusting bracket if you use the drop bracket .

martysmartie

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I am guessing you did not have that turbo before?

If so I think what it is is due to the larger turbo, you need to do a "drop bracket mod" (there is a guide on here), this is what they did with the RS 500, as the alternator sits lower due to the turbo.

Martin

Rossy43

Looks a nice build, on the outside anyway.

bigluke200

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Thats the drop bracket mate.. Its needed with this turbo as was fine on my last engine hence my confusion.

Interesting, how come it all worked ok on the last engine then? Or is it just you need a different adjusting bracket on a 200block?

Thanks mate, same turbo as before, same alternator, same drop bracket (already fitted in the pics) lug has been cut off of the block as on the old engine... The only differences are the block and the belts although the belts appeared to be the same length as the old ones!

Thanks, its pretty sweet on the inside too






Its dave pritchard built long studded 200 block,8.2:1 comp JE pistons,26/25mm ported head, T4, BD16 & 15 cams with double valve springs, spec-r winged/gated/baffled sump (you can just see a 'wing' in the second pic down) it'll be running on syvecs management.

Cossy Mike

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I had this same problem.....bere with me!

I ordered up some Motorcraft belts from Ford and they came too small (like in your pic).

Because it was mail order I was stuck and needed it fixed asap, so I went up to Halfords and got another off the shelf (listed for Cosworth) and sized it up with the Ford one.....it was exactly the same!

It was as if they were all listed wrong...

So I took it to a local motorfactor and sized it up by eye and managed to get a temporary one from another application to work.

I went back to my local ford dealer who went through a big box and I picked 3 Motorcraft ones up that fit perfect BUT they are not listed for a Cosworth.....

hope this helps!

bigluke200

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That is helpful mike thanks!
When I go back to where the car is at the weekend ill offer the new belts up properly to the old ones and see what the score is.. Think the new belts are gates items, I didn't think they looked any different but I only glanced at the lengths.

Cossy Mike

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I'll put money on the original belts are 10-20mm longer

Let me know how you get on! I'm pleased I'm not the only one that has had the same problem

Sonic Boom

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The ones you need from Halfords are HB937a
Rich

johnnycortina

Lovely engine - could look at it all day.

bigluke200

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Will let you know mate, will take a pic.. Thanks again.
Cheers rich, are these a bit longer?

Thanks mate, me too!

Sonic Boom

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Yes mate the 937a will put you bang in ther middle of the adjuster arm that's what i've got fitted to my 3 Door.
Rich

bigluke200

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Excellent rich thanks.. Will post up pics of all belts for comparison at the weekend

BRAMMER

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Cheap fix Luke, the engines looking great - not far away now

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_256260

bigluke200

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Thanks Chris, cheap as chips!!!

Sonic Boom

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If you have a trade card they come up even cheaper £1.39 each proper bargain.
Rich

bigluke200

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Haha that's a joke!

Sonic Boom

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Did you get it sorted in the end mate?
Here's a photo of mine with the 937a fitted you can just see the model number of the belt by the alternator pulley.

Rich

Cossy Mike

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Just checked mine that i sized up by eye from halfords and thats the size on my belts

I hope the gates belts i've just bought from MSD fit!

bigluke200

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Thanks mate.. Perfect fit!!
Was going to spend some time on it all this weekend but we all got some bloody horrendous stomach bug. Nothing worse than having to clean up a toddler's sick when you are feeling fragile yourself
Oh well, there's always next weekend!

DAN-Saff

Use a CVH adjusting strap

Cossy Mike

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I've found my Gates alternator belts.......what's the 4 figure model number on yours?

Cossy Mike

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Well I've gotten round to doing these and guess what, they are too short

Cossy Mike

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Motorsports developments supplied Gates 6272 x2 and I need 6217 x2