SteveH

I've heard that you can reduce the (excessive!) rear camber on saffs by fitting some shims betwen the hub carrier and the trailing arm. Is this a hard job to do? Any info would be top, cheers.

CosKev3

bttt

I want to know too please

foreigneRS

you can buy them from mike rainbird (r & b motorsport), and they come with fitting instructions.

very easy to fit, do a good job of straightening out the camber on lowered sierra's. well worth the money to improve the handling and reduce inner edge tyre wear.

SteveH

Sweet. Thanks alot!

CosKev3

tont2002

curious... how much are they???

Cheers

john

A tenner i think i read on his site earlier, that was each i think so double check

john

http://www.randbmotorsport.co.uk/sho...?ProductID=178

lamb chops

Great stuff just what i need

pieter_pontiac

I've received them from Mike recently, but looked different from what I expected.
These are the ones I received:



These are toe-in shims.

What I also need are camber-correction shims, like these:





or these:



Haven't placed them, so not sure if they'll work, but curious if there's anyone here with experience with these toe-in shims...

The camber-shims will have to deal with this enormous deviate, tires wear out very hard (6000 miles a pair ) so need them hard...



Hope some one can tell me more about the efficiency of these shims...

pugo

i thought (and i maybe completely wrong here) that the shims sort out the toe on camber change, not the camber itself


Pugo

pieter_pontiac

That's what I'm starting to think with the shims I've posted above, however I think most of the extreme tire-wear I have is because of the bad camber.
I'll try these anyway, maybe it'll be good for less sensibility in track-forming on the highway, think that's because of too much toe out...

foreigneRS

cool tow bar pieter

cossiedaz

u lost me wen u mentioned more than one camber

i have excessive tyre wear on the inside

will the shims work?

pugo

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as the suspension on the rear dips down the camber increases(you got that bit yeah?)
when the camber increases on the rear of sierra/saff, the toe angle changes due to the geometry of the back suspension, on a std height car it only affects tyre wear whilst cornering hard and whilst under hard acceleration(when it squats), now if you lower the rear the camber is increased constantly as is the toe angle so you need to correct it i.e with the shims!
they should also help with standing start launches as the should keep the rear wheels parrallel when launching by showing the tarmac more rubber!!and decrease the dreaded squirming of the back end


HTH
Pugo

cossiedaz

thats pretty much wat i thought to begin wiv, u guys start to get a bit too technical sometimes lol

cheers pugo

pieter_pontiac

Maybe I'll take it off soon, but it's kinda handy with woman parking behind ya...

lamb chops

So are there shims availble for the camber problem? & If so can they be used with the shims for toe in?... Mike where are you

pieter_pontiac

Check out this site for camber-correction shims:

CLICK

I'm gonna mount the toe-in shims tomorrow, glad to know that they will work for one goal. Thought they would be too thin.
But I need some camber-shims also...

SS1

iTrader: (3)

pieter please post a pic mate when you have fitted the the shims
how far are your back tyres inside the wheel arch ..would this cause
more problems..mines low..




just ate the first set of treads
but will the camber change swing the top of the tyre out
my back arches arnt rolled 205.40.17 skins on the momos
i know you have been looking for these for a while
hope they work pics please

robrs2

Pieter, Did you get the shims from the RHOCar site ? I know a few who have fitted them to their kit cars and it made a great inprovement to the handling. Think I'll need some for my 3door as its going very low.

pieter_pontiac

Mine are 215/40/17, and is as low in the back as yours, so hope it'll fit, still waiting for an answering email from the guy from Rhocar. He says they'll correct the cambre 2,5 degree, I think it will be a tight fit
But the shims are normally 2-3mm thick, so dont think the top will swing out extremely. But I'm very curious, cause there isn't much space left between the arches and the tire by my car neither...


Haven't received them yet.
I've contacted the guy, but haven't received much info neither yet. But heard he'll need at least 5 buyers to make the shims.
As soon as I receive an answer on production time and stuff, I'll let ya know.

pieter_pontiac

Just ordered a pair of them RHOCar camber correction shims, as soon as they've arrived and fitted I'll post some pics and my experiences.
Toe-in shims will be fitted next week, but won't make much of an (optical) difference I think.

lacey

hello mate there is a mod that hatherway racing do to the rear beam.they mod the points were the rear arm joins the beamso u can lower the car and have very little camber also giving u a bogger foot print of the tyre on the road and ive been told that it transforms the drive of the motor with more traction and less breaking loose of the rear end and better tyre wear.it cost more than the shims u have been asking about( bout 100 notes more) but its propper good.im gona have it done to my 3dr in jan and im running 245/35/17s on mag touring car split rims rims

lacey

hello mate there is a mod that hatherway racing do to the rear beam.they mod the points were the rear arm joins the beamso u can lower the car and have very little camber also giving u a bogger foot print of the tyre on the road and ive been told that it transforms the drive of the motor with more traction and less breaking loose of the rear end and better tyre wear.it cost more than the shims u have been asking about( bout 100 notes more) but its propper good.im gona have it done to my 3dr in jan and im running 245/35/17s on mag touring car split rims rims

pieter_pontiac

I've heard of that mod before, but not sure if anyone in Holland has experience with this.
I'll give the shims a chance first

CosKev3

Could you PM the e-mail address/phone number of the bloke you bought these off please?????

leesrs240

The shims fit to the part of the hub that is closest to the back bumper they are 10thou thick what they do is allter the tow in and because the trailing arms work on an arch the also help the camber..

hope this helps as its just a rough description mike r would be the one to phone

Filthy Rich

Go for a rear beam conversion .......... not cheap but worth every pennie

robrs2

Rich, Also adds to the Bling factor to

tr1ggerhappy

No shit.....

Its not difficult.

ford gnome

http://www.suhe-motorsport.de/
They have the big plate type shim that are for camber.

pieter_pontiac

Here's the direct link:
http://www.suhe-motorsport.de/coswor...-fahrwerk.html

Look a lot like the ones I've ordered, still waiting for them though, bloody slow mail between UK and Holland...

SS1

iTrader: (3)

yeah still wanting had a tire puncture back drivers side fitter said
should not put it it back on cos of tire feathering
fook falkens 5 months old ..your a tire fitter not a copper
fix the puncture . .he wasnt happy but i wasnt
getting very low on the insides but in the middle ..

pieter_pontiac

Received my camber wedges today. Together with the above toe-in shims it should make one helluva difference!

I'll post a before-after pic when I've fitted them, will be wednesday if this horrible weather gets better by then...

Filthy Rich

Wedges look very good

Let us know how you get on with them.

pedley

Hello everybody, only just registered but been reading comments about rear shims and i would like to buy some, can anybody tell me where i can get them from please.

lamb chops

I would like to know where you go those shims also

rapidcossie

im going to fone R and B tomorro to find out what the score is

pedley

Nice one m8, Who and where are R&B ? And how do i get a picture of my car on these posts ?