nice_head

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I was thinking bout getting anti lag on my 3dr next year, got a couple of questions:

Im only running 350bhp so is it really worth it?
How much is it?
Does it do any damage?

Cheers

joffy

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to be safe you need a special shaft in your turbo as it tends to get a bit hot, MSD can add anti lag to one of their chips for about £300 quid i think but the real cost is in the turbo shaft??

cozmeister

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A Maram 247 shaft to be precise

If you have an L8 ECU, it'll need modifying to support antilag - if you don't have an L8, you'll need one, or an ECU that knows how to do antilag out of the box as there are alternatives.

tabetha

Or you could just have the anti lag noise, like I have, and it's LOUD, as cozmeister can tell you, but different ecu needed, no turbo mods though.
tabetha

Mike Rainbird

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And the point of that is....?

joffy

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its loud mike, come on get with the program, performance means nothing unless its really loud

Mike Rainbird

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You've just made me feel very, very old . I thought that anything like that was supposed to offer a performance improvement to warrant the need to carry it out .

joffy

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on a more serious note mike, its about £900 to convert a normal turbo to 247 shaft/turbine wheel??

Mike Rainbird

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It would work out cheaper to sell your own turbo and buy a Mar-m 247 shafted one outright...

cozmeister

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Back on topic at last!

joffy

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sorry, was just teaching mike its not always hip to be square lol,

Stu @ M Developments

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In my experience, normal turbos are fine for mild road use. I have a lot of customers using ALS on road spoc turbos with no problem at all.

cozmeister

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So presumably a 247 shaft is only necessary if you're going on track or other such activities?

nice_head

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Another question:

Does it blow your exhaust to bits?

tabetha

It didn't when roosie had it, but temps went rocketing.
tabetha

cossie daz

if its worth doing get a tuner to sort out a quote.if MSD do anti lag on the customers cars speak to 1 of them and see what they say .

Mike Rainbird

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You just need to prevent the temps from exceeding 900 deg C, so you would need to have something like a Defi gauge (with it's alarm warning) connected to the ALS switch so that it could turn it off when that temp was reached (if you didn't have this available in the ECU).

paul thornton

how do you do that then?

BigErn

I quite fancy mild Anti lag on mine. Hmmmmmmmmmm. I will have the funds in a week or two.

Stu you may recieve a call from me soon regarding our PM chat.

RS Juto

I'm getting anti lag after i have run my engine in. Getting a Maram shafted fitted to my T34 next week .

Went for a run in my mates saff with an MSD conversion the other week, its great.

The police don't tend to like it though, hes just got a section 59

cozmeister

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His car got an ASBO

RS Juto

Not just the car, it apply s to his car and any car he is driving in an unfit manner

tabetha

Pity they don't dish some more out to the chavs round here, with their noisy ott exhausts!!
How long do these last for anyway ?
tabetha

Twellsie

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says the bloke with anti lag noise and no anti lag

KH

Don`t you at least need a modified idle valve to?
Or you can run exhaust droven als?

I had this om my group N car and it`s d... loud.
I got it on my group A car to(can be seen in the next FF) But this does not work as well as the on in the group N car(pectel baby board and use the idle valve to add extra air at @ idle) on the grop car I have gems stand alone unit, and this does not add extra air true the ildle valve. It just have big opening om trottle and cuts of half of the fuel openings in the fuel jets under 3000 rev. (this is not a good solution) So I will opt. for a other system with idle valve on this to.

Does any one have a serious dealer I can contact to get all ths items and a chip customised to my specs. as I will not take my car over to england from Norway.

Cheers Kjetil

Charlie Chalk

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Unless it was a no-noise limit day, You would probably get black flagged tbh using ALS on track.


I want ALS, Its a childish gimmick I want

GUZZLER

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I have it on the saff, not really needed, good fun but probably more 'pub talk' for most people!

Lo@der

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If I ever get mine to work for more than 8hrs I'll let you know.

Karl 3dr

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That'll be me!!

It is a great gimmick, but, it is very anti-social and WILL get you plenty of attention from the police if you're not careful like i wasn't.

bigchez

You have a white saph - is it the one in the video on you tube? That's fucking nuts, fair play if it is!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=puGCda4ThvU

SCOTT81

ive already got 247 shaft so all i need is l8 or p8 and chip for MSD??

ifso any1 give me a ruff price please??

cheers

Stu @ M Developments

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http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/antilag.html

nice_head

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Wots the difference with mild anti lag and isit cheaper?

Karl 3dr

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No, not mine, haven't got any vids of it as yet, its great when you're accelerating through the gears down a dark road, you can get some huge flashes out of the exhaust when you change gear,

tabetha

Twellsie,
The difference is I don't tear around housing estates all night long, and all day for that matter, with no exhaust like a few round here, I have never used mine on an estate, won't even use it near old people or pets etc, f**k me it's not hrad to do is it, lower the soft cut and hard cut job done, all I have done is put on one of my three maps soft cut at 3000rpm , then hard cut at 3300rpm, got bored so have taken it off now, modded yesterday so I can use low or high impdedance injectors now, as greys were only 2.25ohm.
tabetha

Stu @ M Developments

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Erm, what has that got to do with ALS?

T4matt

Yeah i know you nearly melted my front bumper!!!

BigErn

Damn it Im having it asap, Stu you have PM

RSTurboSI

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can you fit an Lag on a ERST? T3 turbo?

what would i need?

Charlie Chalk

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Some form of EFi management thats capable, P8, L8, Autronic etc.

Won't work on MFi.