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Old 04-07-2012, 05:44 PM
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Rs500 bumper brand new how much is it worth,this is brand new in black in the box,this is a brooklyns bumper same as ford one in every way only without the stamp also have the receipt for £600 from fords ,got to much stuff sitting collecting dust lol cheers guys
Old 04-07-2012, 05:45 PM
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I'll give you £505 for it.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:51 PM
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I'll bid £501.00
Old 04-07-2012, 05:56 PM
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Is this eBay lol
Old 04-07-2012, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by yblee
Is this eBay lol

can snipe it if you like!
Old 04-07-2012, 07:14 PM
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I'll give you £600 for it
Old 04-07-2012, 07:38 PM
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Ill give you 1k for it ,
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Paul are the really people that would pay that much just cause its in a box?
Old 04-07-2012, 08:08 PM
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expect your pm box will be filling up soon lol
Old 04-07-2012, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4
Paul are the really people that would pay that much just cause its in a box?

Yup

Old 04-07-2012, 08:34 PM
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if a trader will offer £1K its worth more !!
Old 04-07-2012, 10:40 PM
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Youl probably see this make 1600 on eBay maybe more I reckon.
Old 05-07-2012, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by j6kyt
if a trader will offer £1K its worth more !!
Dont forget i collect rs500 parts so im always willing to pay the going rate for them

Im not saying it isnt worth more ,but i am the highest bidder
Old 05-07-2012, 07:15 AM
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These bumpers go for daft money.
Old 05-07-2012, 09:10 AM
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Guess I dropped lucky with mine then,paid £700 a few years ago.
Old 05-07-2012, 10:00 AM
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Surely you could run off a few good quality bumpers for far less than than a piece, i'll give my mate Ting Tang Wao Chow in China a call and see what he can do!
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Remanufacture of these will never happen

the values are high due to the lack of supply

if the supply came back the values would drop so there would be no point in bothering to have them made as you then couldnt get 1k plus selling them so by the time you have spent a fortune on moulds etc there would be nothing in it as you would need to sell thousands , and that wouldnt happen

Plus the "real" ones would always be worth more by the sad fuckers like me anyway , lol
Old 05-07-2012, 10:18 AM
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Hmmm I don't know, I'm not saying there is a huge market for them but a company who already has the equipment to make such items would only need to make a mould and manufacture a bumper so it wouldn't be a huge outlay, the higher the pirces and the growing scarcity will end up with someone doing it. The only people that would bother about the vaules were the people trying to flog genuine ones.
Old 05-07-2012, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rog
Hmmm I don't know, I'm not saying there is a huge market for them but a company who already has the equipment to make such items would only need to make a mould and manufacture a bumper so it wouldn't be a huge outlay, the higher the pirces and the growing scarcity will end up with someone doing it. The only people that would bother about the vaules were the people trying to flog genuine ones.
Like i said

I WILL NEVER HAPPEN , if it was as easy as you say it would have been done years ago

I tried to get the splitter done and gave up after 2 years hard work as we just couldnt get the quality right at a decent price , and a splitter is far easier than a full bumper

regards prices , Again i will say that even when anything is remade , the gen ones always fetch much more money as sad fuckers like me will always what the " real deal " so it realy wouldnt have any effect on the Gen items values

example ,Centra lock wheels

now can be remade yet the gen wheels still fetch good money

the remade items havent lowered the values of the gen items like we all thought it would

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Old 05-07-2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by North Yorkshire RS Spares
Like i said

I WILL NEVER HAPPEN , if it was as easy as you say it would have been done years ago

I tried to get the splitter done and gave up after 2 years hard work as we just couldnt get the quality right at a decent price , and a splitter is far easier than a full bumper
I don't understand your logic? If Ford made that bumper in 1987 then I would hazard a guess that it is easy to make a bumper like that agian in 2012 if you had the right equipment, and a market/willingness to do it.
Regards quality, it's painted, so how could you tell the difference?

Will have to agree to disagree on this one I think, I am with you on the genuine parts value though.
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I sold mine for £900 mate and that was not in the best condition
Old 05-07-2012, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rog
I don't understand your logic? If Ford made that bumper in 1987 then I would hazard a guess that it is easy to make a bumper like that agian in 2012 if you had the right equipment, and a market/willingness to do it.
Regards quality, it's painted, so how could you tell the difference?

Will have to agree to disagree on this one I think, I am with you on the genuine parts value though.

Having somthing made 20 years ago wasnt as expensive as it is today

yes engineering has moved on and made things a little easier , But costs have gone throught the roof

plus when you make anything from a mould , the mould costs thousands and can only be used for so many products before its scrap , and you dont get many before the mould quality dropps

Its the cost not the fact its hard to do
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did brooklyn get access to a original ford mold ,when they had them remanufactured ?
Old 05-07-2012, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
did brooklyn get access to a original ford mold ,when they had them remanufactured ?

I am 99.9% they did mate
Old 05-07-2012, 09:59 PM
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good to know paul
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Reman won't happen as i beleive they didn't sell as fast as they thought back then so to do it all again when their are a massive decline in both 500 and 3dr cosworth since the 90's and the fact that hardly anyone makes reps like they once did.

i remember PJ's were selling them for £550 brand new a long time ago.

As for this bumper theirs a small window and i think Pauls offer is around the right price maybe a touch more but if listed on ebay you loose 10% straight away so if it made £1200 (which i think is what it would) after paypal and ebay have taken their bit you'll be left with a sniff over a £1k
Old 06-07-2012, 07:34 AM
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That's at least £1500 worth of bumper, I've seen a few used ones go for that kind of money so a new one in a box is easily that.
Old 06-07-2012, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by North Yorkshire RS Spares
Having somthing made 20 years ago wasnt as expensive as it is today

yes engineering has moved on and made things a little easier , But costs have gone throught the roof

plus when you make anything from a mould , the mould costs thousands and can only be used for so many products before its scrap , and you dont get many before the mould quality dropps

Its the cost not the fact its hard to do

True, but like I said above if you are in that business and you have that type of equipment is it not a massive outlay, and given that the standard prices are going up and up, you could remanufacture bumpers at a high cost and still sell them cheaper that an original item, obviously you'd still have to sell a good few!
Not that i really care tbh as I think they're overvalued as it is, but I suppose everything finds it's own value based on the current market.
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I'm sure the original bumper are injection moulded? Which would mean one huge mould to mould a bumper, not many places have a injection moulding machine that big these days other than companies making bumpers for big manufacturers so another spanner in the works would be it would have to be done in another country.
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
I'm sure the original bumper are injection moulded? Which would mean one huge mould to mould a bumper, not many places have a injection moulding machine that big these days other than companies making bumpers for big manufacturers so another spanner in the works would be it would have to be done in another country.
China! 29.99 + P&P
Old 07-07-2012, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
I'm sure the original bumper are injection moulded? Which would mean one huge mould to mould a bumper, not many places have a injection moulding machine that big these days other than companies making bumpers for big manufacturers so another spanner in the works would be it would have to be done in another country.
Exactly

I couldnt get the 500 splitters made anywhere in england unless i paid 20k for the mould and ordered a min of 1,000 items

so i assume it will be the same with a bumper
Old 07-07-2012, 08:36 AM
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So after allmthis suit did the grand offer from Paul by it ffs.ain't seen the seller reply yet?
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Originally Posted by rog
China! 29.99 + P&P
That's an idea! We have a few tools in work from china for the new Honda crv but their really poor quality and we've had our work cut out finishing them and getting decent parts from them!

Anyway don't want to spoil this thread good luck with sale, if I had the cash I'd buy it just as an ornament!
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Cheers for the heads up guys will read between the lines of what to put it up for or who to sell it to ,not going to put it on my e reg 3 door and sort through the rest of what I want to sell and what to keep
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just so happens i still have 2 original ones and one fiber glass copy
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I want a decent copy bumper
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Originally Posted by cossie891
I want a decent copy bumper
All the new ones I've seen are shit, they seemed better years ago
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Not good then
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i would ebay the bumper mate - i sold a damaged one on there a few months back for £1250
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