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Old 21-01-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default picture req of PD manifold fitted and few questions

Has anyone got a pic of the PD banana type manifold fitted on a FRS without any sheilding etc so i can see howmuch space and clearence there is around the turbo? i have tried searching but i cant find a view directly above the engine bay so i can have a good view of the space...

is there much clearence left if fitting a GT30 for example?

also how well do the manifolds flow? anyone ever found a restriction point?

is the Pro Alloy intercooler the only FMIC available for the FRS? something like £1000?!

cheers for any help

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Old 22-01-2007, 11:05 AM
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Hope this helps mate - Inconel ceramic coated PD fitted on my FRS


The PD manifolds are a work of art and imo the best quality & performance manifold for the FRS

Radtec also do a front mount kit for the FRS but imo the Pro Alloy is better quality
Old 22-01-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexRS2782
Inconel ceramic coated
Something else surely? Not Inconel as that's a nickel based alloy

Looks very good regardless of what the coating is
Old 22-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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Inconel is correct, as used on F1 and Rally cars, PD don`t mess around, although quite expensive you do get the best quality materials used!
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Helps explain the cost

Must admit I misread the description, thinking the ceramic was being described as Inconel
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Radtec also do a front mount intercooler kit.

http://www.radtec.co.uk/gallery.php?category=2

Hope this helps.

Paul
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Some more pics of PD fannymould.





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thank you so much for the pics everyone...but howmuch clearance do you have between turbo and block and turbo and rad? could anyone get a picture showing that as i cant really tell from the pictures? Sorry to be a pain

i think the first things on order are Coilovers, air filter, blue fin, exhaust, de-cat, and intercooler

does anyone know the limits to the standard inlet manifold and the PD exhaust manifold? or might i potentially be the first to find out PMSL

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Old 25-01-2007, 02:55 PM
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i will post pics of a gt30 on a pd manifold it does fit!
Old 25-01-2007, 06:32 PM
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inlet is only good for 400

pd manifold imo will be good for well over 500
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Sim, get that bloody manifold cleaned!

Looking good mate, very tasty indeed!
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simhopper wat inlet and TB is that mate?

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Old 26-01-2007, 09:29 AM
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I`ve already started hearing talk on better inlet manifolds and bigger throttle bodies!
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Originally Posted by Shins
I`ve already started hearing talk on better inlet manifolds and bigger throttle bodies!
so have i currently investigating a 76mm TB and different inlet

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Originally Posted by bassboy
simhopper wat inlet and TB is that mate?

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area six inlet and 80mm throttle body
Old 30-01-2007, 09:17 AM
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simhopper....what was the TB off? does the inlet fit straight into the focus engine bay? any space issues? if yours fits im sure mine will be ok LOL

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Old 30-01-2007, 10:53 AM
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Inlet plenums are quite easy to make. This one we made for a Zetec Turbo to into a S2 Escort. Obviously now this items weld are all smooth and its all been buffed to chrome quality. But it will be chromed nonetheless...





@ Simhopper

Is this the item Ian Howell sells for his Zetec Turbo conversions, but obviosuly works on the RS as well? Have you fitted your engine, what kind of results do you have? Any updates on your car???

Cheers!
Old 30-01-2007, 08:56 PM
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the one i had on mine is one of his first inlet manifolds but should flow better than standard,it came with a 80mm focus central tb
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Thats a PD Manifold with a GT30

Old 31-01-2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Ad
Thats a PD Manifold with a GT30

if you had kept your turbo in stock postion a gt30 would have fit with the standard frs manifold without the need for a custom manifold
Old 01-02-2007, 12:41 AM
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Yes, but the standard Focus RS manifold looks like a sock and is shite! LOL
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I didnt want S/S. Mines Inconel
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Big Ad, is the turbo bracket only needed on big BHP cars or does it have it`s uses on any?
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Well because my turbo is situated slightly lower than the standard FRS (Which I didnt actually know until recently ) It isnt able to use the standard method of supporting the turbo.

Primary Designs recommended the bracket and supplied and fitted it with the Manifold & Downpipe.

The turbo had to go off to Mano at Turbo Dynamics to have a bracket fabricated onto it for the PD Bracket to mount to if that makes sence.
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Ahhh right, ok cheers!
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Originally Posted by Big Ad
Thats a PD Manifold with a GT30

could you go for a bigger turbo? whats the space like around the turbo with it situated there?

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Well thats already a GT3076 with an .86 Ex housing. I guess you would get a 35 in there but its not needed. If you remove the fans and put some blowers on in replace of the suckers, there is PLENTY of clearence. Be warned though, that manifold and downpipe was £3,500 as its one off and inconel.
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manifold and down pipe are not a problem

you hoping for more power?

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Well with the current spec its 480-500bhp without the Gas. I'll get the dyno graph up in March when it hits the dyno.
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same sort of power on my old spec stripping the engine for parts now PMSL

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what intercooler are you running on that ad mate?
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random question ad yours the focus that hit 197mph? ( what i read on leedscruise )
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The intercooler is by Alisport.

Not quite 197mph.



On the down hill section of the A1, with a HUGE Tail wind.
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nice one
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Originally Posted by Big Ad
The intercooler is by Alisport.

Not quite 197mph.



On the down hill section of the A1, with a HUGE Tail wind.
must have been a tornado

id send your road angel back to the manufactor...looks faulty to me
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Nothing wrong with the Rd Angle. It does 170's on the flat.
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Originally Posted by Big Ad
Nothing wrong with the Rd Angle. It does 170's on the flat.
sorry but I have gotta say that there is no way on earth a 400 BHP focus is gonna hit anywhere near 190mph. They reckon you hit a brick wall at 175mph and you need 100BHP/10mph after that!! It takes about 500BHP in a cossie to hit 175/180mph so your talking 600/650bhp to get to 190mph+.......................I'd be putting in that warranty claim to Road Angel pal
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Doubt that, as Ian Howell's Focus Zetec Turbo did 175mph when his was 400bhp I believe?
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Yeah Ian did 176.6 with 460bhp on the flat at Brunters (Thats what performance ford mag said anyway)

Never had any problems with my Rd Angel before. Its always ran +/- 2mph in conjunction with the ford speedo
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Originally Posted by COCHYN
Doubt that, as Ian Howell's Focus Zetec Turbo did 175mph when his was 400bhp I believe?
Well if you've read what I said, you hit a relative brick wall of resistance at 175mph and to get to 195 (as he had said that he was doing originally, downhill or not!) you'd need an extra 200BHP, So in the focus, you'd need circa 600bhp +


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