DavesRsTurbo

Them VTS are bloody rappid and under estimated. most are mistaken for VTR which are loads slower.

cheers

david

rapidcossie

your point is caller??

Patto

are we to take it youve had your arse handed to you buy the french enemy

Ad4m RST

depending on driver i'd say RS.....

if not whoops for you mate

Chris69

those vts's don't hang about but any mildly tuned rs should easily out pull one on everything except maybe the twistys.
having said that the 16v motors do tune very well- either way if u've had a ar$e whooping u should be ashamed

Oranoco

You need to sort your RS if you're having grief off Paxo's

Know what you mean though they are quite nippy little buggers. And they are a hoot to drive, you just feel like such a twat when you get out of one as everyfooker expects to see a teenager

stusfesta

i had a 106 gti (same engine) they are rappid but in a straight line u should piss on one, they dont hav to wait4 the turbo to cut in!

Ad4m RST

ye they do accelarate like shit off a shovel... no lag etc.

but pissy top end power

DavesRsTurbo

drove my mates VTS and was got to 136 well quick well fun down and around corners lol

Combi_Chris

they are great cars , my ex has one .......they eat the twisties

Oranoco

On the clocks, which in real money is about 115mph so not all that impressive. my mates old one used to seem really fast when in it compared to either of my RS's but both of them leave the Paxo for dead

petermintrst

well i know a standard VTS is a match for a standard RS turbo. i.e mine, couldnt pull away!

LittleMissFordie

Piss off with ur french shit dont offend me

never raced a vts but I know for a fact I piss in the face of VTRs wopuldnt heat my car up for one now,

no street cred for saxo, wheras rs turbo are badboy and mean


this shouldnt even be an issue"""

Oranoco

Julia while the VTS is no ball of fire it's far removed from the VTR. Don't underestimate them as in the right hands they can destroy cars costing twice as much with a hell of a lot more power

petermintrst

that is very try, they move ALOT quicker than a vtr with 20 extra bhp

Combi_Chris

i heard that ON PAPER they are almost as quick as a lotus elise

seriously !!

Chris69

was that sarcasm i certainly hope so cus a lotus elise on paper whoops a vts big stlyee and would give one a caning in every department- thats a standard un by the wy not even the 111s or new toyota powered jobbies.
i've seena 111S beat/overtake a f40 round a rack throught the twisties

Combi_Chris

i meant speeds and gears, the only difference i was aware of was top speed.

maybe she was telling porkys

i had no reason to think she was a liar seeings as she had at one point both cars

petermintrst

there as quick/slow as a standard RS Turbo......in my experience

sexr3i

Your only downfall in an RST is lag, once you come on boost you should eat it unless there's summat wrong with your RST. My 3i will comfortably beat VTR's and VTS's without breaking a sweat, but I've got no lag and despite what people think, a saxo is heavier than youd expect.

Chris69

mine starts boosting at 1500rpm @5psi then is fully on boost at 2000rpm @ 10psi- lag wots that
powers comes in alot lower down than most n/a cars and altough i havn't beat a vts(havn't found one yet lol) i 've stuck on the back bumper of a vr6 to 110 when we had to brake
imo any rs turbo with 150bhp plus should easily match/beat one.

JimmyBoy

iTrader: (1)

What is the bhp of a VTR / VTS then and thier respective 0-60 / top speeds? Im just curious.

Combi_Chris

1.6 (1587 cc) VTS - DOHC (Double overhead camshaft) 16 valve - 120 bhp - 0-60 in 7.2 seconds - top speed = 127 mph

JimmyBoy

iTrader: (1)

Reasonablly impressive. Better 0-60 on paper than an RST.

Red16

yeah course you have... then you woke up!!

LittleMissFordie

ok lets all go buy saxos!!!! yay RESPECT

Chris69

if u want the vid i'll give it too you mate its all about braking and grip round the bend- and a nuts driver of course
pm me if u want the vid, the link doesn't wrk here anymore from turbocrime
http://www.forum.turbocrime.co.uk/vi...us+elise#24633

petermintrst

7.7 to 60

EssexMikeSi

iTrader: (3)

i had a saxo vts pull away from me like i was goin backwards a little while back. and i was drivin my 200 brake esc turbo!!!!!!!!!!

petermintrst

eh????

Ad4m RST

same thing happened to my in my 1st turbo. was running around 180hp and gave a VTS a go, left me for dead. Spoke to him further up the road and it had been turbo'd

turbo conversions getting more common on saxo's now

Red16

i'd expect a well driven f40 will muller an elise to be fair (BRAKING, ACCELERATION, CORNERING GRIP) not the same league in any respect. f40 drivers deserves to be shot with shit!

murdoch1.7zs

i beat a vts in ma fiesta zetec~s. and i would kill them on the bends aswell. there a bit over rated.

Oranoco

VTR maybe but a VTS would nail a Zetec S's balls to the nearest wall mate unless you had some extra trickery on it

sufsRS

got to admit vts's aint bad dont hate me guys but i had one for a week my standard rst is quicker not massively but would easily pull away. Ive had plays with plenty and have pulled away easily so if anyone cant your rst needs a serious setup

murdoch1.7zs

wrong m8

my fez has got a puma lump with 136bhp

got a vid of me racing a guy i know in his vts. i didnt leave it but i got by him a held it

EssexMikeSi

iTrader: (3)

well, even tho my turbo is near on or just over 200brake, coz of where i live with bendy roads and contry areas a saxo vts would prob beat me. only once we hit hte a12 would i probably eat him for breakfast and wave bye bye

Red16

you mean he's correct as i would class a completely different engine as 'some extra trickery on it'

nice conversion anyway

Zetec_mk4_XR3i

My mates 106 Gti is a nippy little bugger, am i right in saying its the same engine? But he gets pasted by a standard looking white RST quite regularly, still tryin o find out whats in the RST!!

There is a completely standard looking blue vts that goes about here with a turbo conversion though - i'm leaving that alone

LittleMissFordie

I dont care if there fast they are so common and looks do nothing for me. Id rather have a 60bhp ford than any french composition...

sorry, why am I feeling im offending folk when its a bloody ford site in the first place???!!!