mark s

My car has been off the road for 12 months now due to resto work
now under the bonnet is complete the bluddy thing won't start

I've done all checks i can think of (Spark, fuel, air leaks)


The only thing i think it could be is not enough oil pressure
to the tappets causing the valves not opening proparly
I've changed the oil due to it been stud. but still no joy

Has anybody had this before any comments welcome.

davidnormanuk

have you tried pressing the paddle down slightly when turning the car over to force some fuel through?

mark s

Yes mate,

Pi$$ed the spark plugs wet through with petrol

vroooom ptssssh

get someone to turn it over, and hold the metering flap down 5mm, no more, no less

If your getting spark and fuel and compression, check ignition timing, std 12 degree's tdc vacume unblocked, 11 degree's tdc with vacume blocked, or vice versa.

Try a tow start. . lol

Kop2381

As said above check timeing mate make sure theres no air leaks

mark s

can't check timing mate as it won't start!

I will try the fuel metering flap see if that help

Tow start

when it's cranking it's try's like mad to start then the
battery lead gets red hot so i have to give it a rest
I don't like how hot the wire get's is this normal?

Kop2381

Had this with my S2 turned out to be fuel pump relay ? are you deffinately getting fuel if so try bump it off or drag it off with another car ?

AJC

iTrader: (6)

i had this when mine had been of road for 3 months

was just the dizzy,

moved it and hey presto

mark s

Defo got fuel mate i've undone an injector to make sure.

i can't tow it as i have'nt got round to re-fitting the
brakes yet

When it turns over it chuggs and pops like it wants to start but nothing
happens

i'm going to remove the rocker cover and make sure all the plug leads
are on in the correct order i know the fireing order is 1342
but has anybody got a picture showing the rotar arm in number 1 position
just to make sure?

SafeChav

Number 1 is the connector on the dizzy at the 12'o clock position.

So as you look at the dizzy cap:

......1

3..........2

......4

I knew taking art at school would pay off

mark s

The Pi$$ing thing still won't start i have fuel, and spark
and the timing is spot.

The battey lead get's red hot after a couple of seconds
cranking

i had it running for about 20 seconds
but it run like a bag of $hit and there was black
smoke coming from the exhaust
could this be over fueling

has any body got any ideas!!!!!

these are the things i have checked

spark
fuel
fuel pressure
fuel pump relay
oil
cam timing

I think it's looking like a wire problem?
any help welcome because i've got a can of petrol
and a match ready if i can't get it runing

cheers all

SafeChav

Alright mate

black smoke = overfuelling

Personally if you fuel and a spark my money is on the metering head being fucked. The battery leads getting hot doesnt sound too good however, is it turning over well? Good starter motor i presume?

You say its been offroad for the resto, have you adjusted anything like the idle screw on the throttle housing? Or the mixture screw on the metering head? Something else to check, IIRC, when your cranking over you should be able to see the flap on the metering head moving, going up and down slightly (because your cranking and its not fast enough to keep a constant vacuum pressure in the inlet manifold), if you cant see it moving that to me would suggest an air leak? Also check you havent left any of the little wires off the battery terminals, very easy to miss off ive done this before

Im familiar with the wiring on these aswell, but i doubt it is wiring.

let me know if this helps and how u get on

mark s

safechav

Thanks for the info mate

The Battery has gone flat now mate so when it's finished
charging i will let you know how i get on

cheers

mark s

She is now running

The fault was a wire inside the dizzy unit has rubbed through
and earthed out!

i'm like a dog with two dicks now!!
well happy

cheers for the help all

Mark

SafeChav

Urgh!!! Those dizzy's are crap! The sensor will probably start breaking down next Get one of those modified ones with no wires

I thought u said u had a spark, thats whats wierd about it though

Well done though

vroooom ptssssh

Whats one of them modified ones without wires? coil pack?

SafeChav

well fairplay if u can modify the system to run coils packs (tell me the secret )

Don't be so stupid theres a company that make a compact all in one sensor, removes all the shit out of the back of the dizzy, and the new one just pushes in no wires or anything, a lot better and neater

vroooom ptssssh

I meant convert to EFI

Sounds good, what's the catch? Price?

mark s

Did have a spark! then did'nt
Did have a spark! then did'nt
Did have a spark! then did'nt
Did have a spark! then did'nt

You know how it goes

3 shocks later and I had about all i could take
then a noise started coming from the dizzy cap area
and bingo fault found!!

separted the wires and pop bang rattle she started!!

so i've oreded a new dizzy unit

SafeChav

O lol, in that case i take it all back i like your words boy (i fucking HATEEEEEE bosch KE)

I'm going EFI soon want to be able to boot it without worrying about fuelling.

Ummm, well i haven't got one myself, my dizzy is playing up (sometimes when i boot it it back fires VERY loudly and makes all the pedestrians jump) it is funny as fuck though lol, but DazRS has one, he showed me when he came round one day, i think he said its about Ł45, well worth it though much better than the shit thats in the dizzy from Bosch. Ive got a dizzy to swap with but if thats no good im just guna fork out and get one

SafeChav

Guess whos never have had a blast off HT yet

Shame u didnt say earlier u should of ordered one of those all in one replacement sensors for the dizzy

mark s

DOW

How much and where from?

SafeChav

Ummmmm, i dont know where from off the top off my head, i know DazRS, he was the one that showed me them, all the crap and wires from the back of the dizzy are redundant, and just the new sensor clips in the top (all part of the wiring plug assembly) you will notice in yours the sensor is actually at the bottom, hence the wires to connect it.

He said he found some company on the net, u want me to get in touch with him?

mark s

if you could mate

just incase it goes again

Cheers

SafeChav

will do