DavesRsTurbo

Escort Rs Turbo Vs Saxo Vts Vs 106 GTI

At the lights what would happen?? and topspeed.......??????

Any information would be great

cheers

Dave

T28 RST

Are you for real

Stoo

Standard cars?

Bearing in mind the VTS and GTI have the same engine...

stusfesta

i had a 106gti before my s1 i have now and my mate has a VTS, i raced him up the by-pass and couldnt get past him till we hit about 90mph but im only running 5psi so RS would normally piss on them! depends how much lag you have aswell i spose

Rick

pmsl

stusfesta

P.S dont go buyin FRENCH shit!

DavesRsTurbo

Ive got nearly standard Rs i think lol

I got full scopion exhaust system K&N Full Samco hoses turbo on about 11 or 12 psi. seem really quick.

Aint got it on road till 12th December because i cant get insured till then but i wonder what happen if i come across a VTS or 106 GTI or somethink on that range of cars. at the lights...

cheers
Dave

T28 RST

So you will have about 140bhp in your RST and what do the others have 120ish

They are lighter but if you can drive you will have them

DavesRsTurbo

I am not sure really what ive got under the hood to be honest.

I no ive got a blue rocket cover but no sure if anyone added any mods and my Rs has been lowered quite a bit on standard Rs 15 inch alloys.

There aint much history about the car and the other owner was about 36 and didnt have a clue.

Had a bloke come round in his tune up van with his computer and tools and he ran a Full system test via his computer and he sed the results was really good with compression test. he sed the emision was meant to be 3 something % BUT IT WAS 10%. so he sorted it all out and it idles around 1000 what it should do and runs so much better.

Before i had him round it was running a bit funny when idleing and sometimes it would die or idle about 2300. which is not good.

But would i payed for it Ł900 he sed i got a bargain. it runs so well now just cant wait to get her on the road and start driving her.

Starts first time and drives without no noise. No smoke and boost really well.

cheers

Dave

T28 RST

Do you have a tuner near you that has experience with RS Turbos, if you have take it to him and get it checked over or even better take it to your local rolling road and get a set up so you know its perfect then you can go paxo hunting

DavesRsTurbo

i live in Southend in Essex

Not sure where the best place to take it for tuning or rolling road.

any ideas. my mum drove it home when i first got it and she took to 113mph and she got scared. i drove her 1.2 Corsa and she left me but driveing with no Tax at 113mph is not good but she sed it had loads more talk in the speed but she was not gonna push it and that was when it was running with wrong emission setting.

getting the Cambelt and tappets done on monday and then she be ready to to drive her about

But it would be nice to get it set up on rolling road and set the turbo up properly.

cheers

Dave

T28 RST

Dont just get the tappets done, you need to get the cam at the same time or else the new tappets will be knackered in a couple of month

Oranoco

The Saxo/Pug will almost certainly beat you off the line. Shouldn't take too long to real them in and pass them.

DavesRsTurbo

I dont mean to sound thick.

But how do i no if i got a chipped ecu or anythink changed. is there anyway of finding out myself.

Cheers

Dave

T28 RST

Does the car have a bleed valve or a boost gauge

A non chipped ECU will run about 10psi boost(i think), if its running more boost then it might be, best advice is to take it to the rolling road and let them sort it out

Oranoco

As soon as you have it on the road get it to a tuner before planting your right foot and have it set up properly. I know you had a chap round to sort it but these guys invariably don't know enough about these cars.

Whilst you are having it setup you can ask the tuner whether it is chipped or not. Whereabouts in the country are you?

DavesRsTurbo

it had a boost screw thing in the engine bay and its got a boost guage to. the 2 owners before told the last owner it did have a hybrid turbo on it but it got taken away

cheers

Dave

DavesRsTurbo

i am southend in essex

T28 RST

Is there any history with the car at all

DavesRsTurbo

there some i really got to have a look when i get in. so busy i am but i have a look.

cheers

dave

Oranoco

Engine Advantages or Jano from Oddkid Creations will probably be your best bet then to have the car looked over.

T28 RST

You should really get it looked at with an expert otherwise it could go bang at anytime and you will be left with an oily mess

DavesRsTurbo

just phoned power engineering and they want Ł150 to rolling road and tune it. thats alot hey

CHEERS

DAVE

T28 RST

Ł150

AVA charge Ł60 for an hour on the rollers

Go somewhere else

andysrs

Ł150 is about average for a rolling road session well worth it!!!!!!!

T28 RST

Ł150 fookin day light robbery

andre_k

iTrader: (2)

T28 RST


$60 for an hour on the rollers, or $120 +vat for up to 2 hours at jamsport, inc setting up...

$120-$150 is about right for a setup, not just a power run as your on about

JamboRS

AVA is Ł60 an hour for SETTING UP,which nine times out of ten can be set up within that hour
if it needs parts you will be charged on that,but basically a rs turbo should not need more than 1 hour on the rolling road unless its being tested for other set ups,eg boost,timing etc.. etc...

oh and std rs turbo will have its work cut out against these 2 cars,only when chipped will it wipe the floor

andre_k

iTrader: (2)

so your trying to say that basically jamsport + MSD etc those who charge over 100 are ripping us off?

Ad4m RST

try the grove garage romford..not too far from southend

brownieturbs

Ł150. i would neva pay that for 1 hours work. i payed 40 to have my fuel system cleaned an a full set up on the rollers. u essex lads r payin too much u wana get these welsh rally boys to set ur car up. they build race cars for a livin. and they dnt rip u off!

Oranoco

They also almost certainly have lower overheads than the Essex. You can buy three houses in some parts of Wales for the same price as a flat in some parts of Essex

andre_k

iTrader: (2)

like i said, jamsport + MSD + others know more what there doing to a RST, than these welsh rally boys i reckon...

oh, and neither are in essex

stusfesta

theres less sheep in Essex though

Andy-R

Your the one mentioning "rippig us off"

Both "Jamsport & MSD etc" are buisnesses in the same way AVA are.

Assuming the end result is: your cars being set up correctly its Running Safer power having been optimised.

Both yourself (as the customer) and your selected Tuner (the Trader) are happy with the money that changes hands then Job done.

brownieturbs

i didnt know where they were so sorry. but number 1 im not from wales im english. number to these welsh boys built tune and race escort cossies and s1 rst and have done for many years so they do no wot they r doin. b
but at the end of the day is is down to personal choice of who u and each different person gets to tune there car. there is allways going to be some one cheaper and better if you look hard enough.

Versus_Creations

iTrader: (1)

I charge nothing to look at at the engine setup and check that the system is running right.. It might worth having it looked at. + you are very close

swerv

i own a 106 gti and a 190hp rs turbo.

the gti will wipe the floor with the escort on anything with bends in it, the escort will wipe the floor with the gti in a straight line!!

i much prefer to drive the gti though , top little car

these are very different cars though.

im absoultly pissing myself though if you think a standard rs turbo will come anywhere near a 106 gti

Oranoco

Not an Escort I know but my Fiesta RST demolished a 106GTi when it was standard power with just the lowering springs on. And my old XR2i dispensed with a couple of friends in their Paxo VTS's. I agree the Escort doesn't handle as well in stock trim but it's about 10 years behind in the development stakes. Nothing a bit of cash can't put right though

swerv

very true, although my escort is modified, the 106 is standard!!

i know which one i would feel more comfortable with round a track though