diesel

as above it still a project in the garage for now, iv bought some parts i havent fitted them all yet but was wondering how much bhp i should roughly get when i get it setup.

the car is a standard erst s2 mfi the part iv bought are a
piper 285 t2 cam
k&n air filter
magnex st steel exhaust
collins 31 actuator
collins chip with unlimited boost that what it said on ebay? thats all i know on the chip

any advice would be great im hoping to get 200bhp at some point, my mate has a 2.0 clio sport 210bhp and i would like to wipe the smile off his face lol. what other parts can i get that wont break the bank?

clarke5700

if you invest with a better intercooler i would say around the 200mark i think you will fined that your turbo will hold you back there

Karlos G

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Best you'll do with that spec is around 175bhp, you need a front mount intercooler (190bhp'ish), and at least a Stage 2 T3 to break the 200bhp barrier, fuelling allowing of course.

diesel

iv seen a few on ebay (intercooler) and thay look twice the size will thay go straight in or is it a bit of modifiying to be done?

juffer

as said above. your cooler and turbo are the next thing, but this is providing you have fuel to allow these mods.

Rob_DOHC

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Totally as karlos has said, mine was that spec, (nearly identical) with a front mount intercooler and a stage 2 turbo, car did 185brake at 17.5 psi did one run at 19psi but it was aborted because of det (was on tescos finest fuel lol) so probably could have hit 190-195 but i really wasn't chasing penis figures, the impressive figure was 205ft.lb of torque, the car did a 14.4 quarter mile with this set up which should be a fair bit quicker than your mates clio

PLUG ALERT , i have a cooler for sale in my for sale section,

Rob,

clarke5700

i used an s2 one on my fiesta seen hear https://passionford.com/forum/restor...ell-happy.html

but most fmic's are normaly a direct fit just need a bit of work nothink to hard realy

diesel

the thing is i dont know what im buying when it comes to the turbo how much wolud a stage 2 cost? my mate got a t4 for sale but he said i would be better off not buying it, he said it wouldnt run right?

clarke5700

it would probaly never come on boost on a 1.6 laglaglaglaglag lag lag lag lag limiter

clarke5700

what are you doing on the net!!!! go rack up some miles mister lol

Rob_DOHC

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yea! you should have done at least 600 by now! hope its going okay Karlos.

Rob,

diesel

right en intercooler and a stage 2 is what i need, what about injector do i need to chang these if so what ones?

Rob_DOHC

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Nope, standard injectors are your only options for mfi,

If you can get one a 5th injector kit is a really good stepping stone for an rs turbo, good for 200 brake and maybe a bit more and no where near as rich off boost.

Rob,

diesel

n1 rob and thanks 2 every one who commented

juffer

I believe you can run porche bosch injectors but don't quote me on that. Also a 5th injector is a good idea as rob says. MF2 will do the trick.

conor.rst

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Don't fanny around with a fith injector go efi

juffer

Yes i totally agree but when on a budget then you have to get the best you can with the funds available. My friend has just sold his mf2 5th injector setup including crossover, driver,wiring loom and injector for 140 pound. EFI setup would cost you in the region of 500-600 for megasquirt with injectors,ecu, loom, inlet plenum, adapter plates ect

Oranoco

5th injector is crude but does work. I'm at 260bhp on mine with one and hoping to squeeze a bit more from it once I get it back on the road

Karlos G

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Alright alright!!
I will have done 600 by tomorrow evening

Had a day off driving today to do the fucking sump gasket..... AGAIN!!
Good opportunity to do an oil change and 'Touch wood' it's not leaking now....
Limiter is at 5000rpm and running 1bar now

studabear

I'm so envious karlos, I've got an issue i can't find with mine atm

RSMK4TURBO

I have all of your mods and a full frontal intercooler and mine made 165bhp @14psi.

boothy

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Whos rollers mikeanicks?

RSMK4TURBO

Yes mate.

TOMO

are we talking wheel or fly wheel figures here?

ROB7656

flywheel!

Karlos G

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Whats up with yours??
Flywheel mate, although with the above mods you may just scrape 200atw but the Stage 2 T3 will be on it's limits and some good headwork will probably be needed or if not it would certainly help!

TOMO

my car has the following and made 204bhp @ the flywheel spiking at 15 psi

stage 2 turbo
chip
filter
exhaust
front mount cooler
piper cam

Rob_DOHC

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What! lol 205brake at 15psi! most people seem to need nearer to 20psi for that lol

T28 RST

O dear

TOMO

thats what mikeanics rollers said lol

It made 169.3 bhp @ the wheels and he told me to add about 20% onto that for my flywheel figure which actually makes it 203.16 bhp @ the fly wheel or is that a bit generous?

don't get me wrong guys im not just making these figures up im just going off what a tuner has told me.

boothy

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Yeh im with you mate his rollers are Spot on ,He knows his stuff !!

Karlos G

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The fly figure is calculated using other varibles not just a pecentage, but rule of thumb is about 15% for FWD so 194.6bhp is probably nearer the mark! If everyone used ATW figures it would be much easier though!

Rob_DOHC

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but seriously (not saying your wrong mate) 200 brake at 15psi peak is bloody good going!

TOMO

cheers for the vote of confidence Karlos and not just tarring me with the look at this idiot he doesnt know what hes talking about brush.

and cheers for the recomendation boothy! needless to say it was a good drive home along the a34 on fri! aprt from when a woman didnt check her blindspot on a roundabout and I binned the car in to the kerb fooking my wheel up ;-(

TOMO

[QUOTE=Rob_DOHC;4822833]but seriously (not saying your wrong mate) 200 brake at 15psi peak is bloody good going! [/QUOTE

No worrys mate, I was pretty pleased when I found out lol
I forgot something off my spec tho too, ive supposedly (was like this when I bought it) got an overbored bottom end taking it to aroud 1700cc. Weather this makes a difference or not I dont know.

and it does tend to hold 15psi in 4th and 5th due to there being more load I suppose

boothy

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Ah glad to hear your happy great news

Did you see his escort cos rally car

He is a nice honnest guy that knows his stuff

TOMO

Yeah I saw his yellow escos and his WRC Spec one was on the ramp. He also had a tasty mk1 escort rally car there too.
Top bloke as you say.
was just a shame that he has to shut tho doors so his "neighbours" dont complain lol

boothy

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Yeh know what you mean there is a school behind him

How far did you travel mate ??

Cant wait to get mine on his rollers,its running efi,beige injectors, stage 3 turbo, front mount kent cam and a msd chip hoping for something around yours if im lucky

Karlos G

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No worries mate! lol
As if you did your wheel though, nightmare!
Your extra 100cc will make a difference yes, it increases the engines VE a little so all helps to make power.

TOMO

boothy: I drove down from oldham, your car should deffo make good power probably more than mine i would of thought! I wish I could go efi, but it aint cheap and it is my daily driver too so I cant really do it over time.

Karlos: is was the wheel or my passenger wing and door lol