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Old 19-02-2010, 05:03 PM
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Looking good Karl!
Built very well/clean!!

Just need to give it a lick of paint now...

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy

3. I don't use Graphogen anywhere except on the cam lobes/followers, certainly not in the bores.
Out of interest Christian why don't you use any Graphogen on the bores? I was told that this was useful here to help bed the rings in on start up/and provides a protective layer?

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Looks like you've done a good job there mate, sure wish I was confident enough to build my own

220 - 250 bhp sounds reasonable to me. What kinda power output could you expect from it if the turbo wasn't holding you back?

Do you mind me asking how much it has cost you to build?

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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Nice work Karl, couple of observations though....

1. I'm surprised you didn't take the opportunity to clean the block up!

2. Did you seriously put sealer all round the sump gasket??!!

3. I don't use Graphogen anywhere except on the cam lobes/followers, certainly not in the bores.

Either way, should be great to get up and running again!!
lol
I did clean the block up!! It's been painted red, and then black, and what you see in the pics is a mixture of whats left after a good clean with Gunk!
Yes I did seal the sump gasket as pictured, it's the only way to get it to seal IME.
Originally Posted by morph
put a lick of paint on the block mate either black or blue or even go red to match the rest of the car! will look so much better in the engine bay!
It's got at least two different colours on it already (black over red) and I wasnt going to paint it again only for it to all bubble up and flake off like the last block I had!
Originally Posted by Big-Dan
Looks like you've done a good job there mate, sure wish I was confident enough to build my own

220 - 250 bhp sounds reasonable to me. What kinda power output could you expect from it if the turbo wasn't holding you back?

Do you mind me asking how much it has cost you to build?

Big-Dan.
With the correct turbo 300bhp+ mate!

The whole engine (just the engine) cost as follows...
Pistons Ł450
Rods Ł330
Head (SS valves, bronze guides, ported, flowed, etc..), and Newmans cam/lifters Ł1000
Gasket sets, bolts etc.. Ł75
ACL Bearings Ł90
Crank polish and decking of block Ł50

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Old 19-02-2010, 07:32 PM
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FYI, when you're doing the gasket when the engine is upside down like that, don't use sealer. It LESSENS the chance of it sealing in my opinion.

As long as you use a Payen gasket, not a Ford one or any other brand and you fit it dry, before just lightly nipping the bolts up, it won't leak. You have to go round it a couple of times, but really only nipped up. Mine has never leaked doing it this way.
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It's the only one i've done with the engine out, done maybe 5 or 6 in though and always had them seal this way.
So long as it works I guess, each to their own!

I'll be up to see you for a power run once I'm ran in and mapped!
Old 19-02-2010, 08:31 PM
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Why wouldn't you use lube on the bores Christian?
Old 19-02-2010, 08:54 PM
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Looking good Karl!
Old 19-02-2010, 09:06 PM
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Well done karl. You have you weekend all planned then fitting it.
Old 19-02-2010, 10:07 PM
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Looks good Karlos, 300bhp on std compression tho!!??


I cant wait to rebuilt my RST engine, just totaly standard though, if I sell my big valve head that should almost cover it!
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Originally Posted by cabrio zo
Looking good Karl!
Cheers Zo!
Originally Posted by juffer
Well done karl. You have you weekend all planned then fitting it.
No mate, far too cold to be outside fitting engines! Thats why I built most of it in the kitchen!! lol
Waiting for some warmer weather then i'll get it in, still got lots to do..... Quaife rack, Hdy clutch, rewiring loom, etc...
Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Looks good Karlos, 300bhp on std compression tho!!??
I cant wait to rebuilt my RST engine, just totaly standard though, if I sell my big valve head that should almost cover it!
Yes mate 300bhp is very achievable at stock CR, and even more from what I was told on another thread!
Christians motor for example was 300bhp at stock CR, still using stock Mahles too!
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Why wouldn't you use lube on the bores Christian?
My guess would be that it protects too well, and of course the point of running in is that the rings bed in rather than glazing the bores, same reason you dont use fully synth.
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Yes mate 300bhp is very achievable at stock CR, and even more from what I was told on another thread!
Christians motor for example was 300bhp at stock CR, still using stock Mahles too!
Karl, my 300bhp engine was indeed on Mahles, but they had been machined for low comp.

I do think 300bhp is achieveable at standard C/R and even higher, but only on a decent ECU and with a competent mapper.

Originally Posted by Karlos G
My guess would be that it protects too well, and of course the point of running in is that the rings bed in rather than glazing the bores, same reason you dont use fully synth.
Yes, thats roughly it. I just can't see why use anything in the bores.
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Oh sorry, thought you were standard CR!
Old 20-02-2010, 10:29 AM
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my mahles were machined as well for 300 when i used them as well.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Karl, my 300bhp engine was indeed on Mahles, but they had been machined for low comp.

I do think 300bhp is achieveable at standard C/R and even higher, but only on a decent ECU and with a competent mapper.



Yes, thats roughly it. I just can't see why use anything in the bores.

so dont used oil or grease on bores when fitting new rings?
Old 20-02-2010, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by andy130
so dont used oil or grease on bores when fitting new rings?
No it stops the bedding in process and the rings will not bed in.
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Originally Posted by andy130
so dont used oil or grease on bores when fitting new rings?
Nope.
Old 20-02-2010, 01:08 PM
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right thats it iam off outside to connect some hoses. seriously keep it up
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Quaife rack is now in, gearbox cradle and mounts are off the old Gbox, cleaned, and ready to fit.
Was going to put the cradle in the bay then realised I used the two front bolts to secure the engine to my engine stand! lol

Just need to borrow my mates engine crane, fit the flywheel, clutch, gearbox to the engine, and drop it in!
Old 25-02-2010, 04:02 PM
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Good work,and the satisfaction knowing it was built by yourself...........
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good luck mate, might be safer to get the engine back in through the bottom, use the crane to lift the body up, your less likely to smash great chuncks out your inner wings that way lol no vernier pulley Karlos? i swear i saw one in another photo of yours (that could be bollocks tho!).

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Old 25-02-2010, 06:01 PM
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keep up the good work karlos,i see uve spent a few quid.
Old 25-02-2010, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete frst
Good work,and the satisfaction knowing it was built by yourself...........
Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Superb work karl
Cheers!
Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
good luck mate, might be safer to get the engine back in through the bottom, use the crane to lift the body up, your less likely to smash great chuncks out your inner wings that way lol no vernier pulley Karlos? i swear i saw one in another photo of yours (that could be bollocks tho!).

Rob,
hehehe i've done it a few times, should be ok!
No vernier mate no, I have no need of one..... two reasons, one I have no rolling road to tune on so I cannot accurately make changes to positive effect! lol
Secondly, it simply moves the power band up or down the rev range on a single cam engine so not much use unless your running a big arse lazy turbo then you can give it a coupe of degree of advance and lose a bit of lag..... but i'm not! lol
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keep up the good work karlos,i see uve spent a few quid.
Yeah I have spent a few quid but thankfully i've landed some blinding deals, and been able to sell a LOT of old RS bit and bobs to fund most of it..... not really had to dip into my pocket that much thankfully!
Old 26-02-2010, 06:11 AM
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yeah its always best when u can make money too spend money.im on a proper budget with mine.just had to sell few bits and bobs to pay for road tax lmao.
i enjoy reading your threads as u answer to everyone and seem like a genuine nice bloke,unlike some cocky know it alls on here,not naming any names lol.
cant wait to see what power she makes on the rollers mate.
i had a cabriolet with cossie bumpers bout 5 years ago.it was awesome and the car was painted vauxhall astra coupe gold.that car got loads of attention.
Old 26-02-2010, 07:05 AM
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Cheers mate, I'm aways happy to help if I can!
Yeah I cant wait either, another car I have mapped is going on the rollers this Sunday and that will be the first one i've done so cant wait to see what that makes either!!
I was a two shows last year, Modified Nationals and Modified Live and the car got lots of attention, it was the only one there like it which helps lol
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Cheers mate, I'm aways happy to help if I can!
Yeah I cant wait either, another car I have mapped is going on the rollers this Sunday and that will be the first one i've done so cant wait to see what that makes either!!
I was a two shows last year, Modified Nationals and Modified Live and the car got lots of attention, it was the only one there like it which helps lol
yeah ,when u hear cabriolet with cossie bumpers alot of ppl think chav,but i think thet suit them.wot rear spoiler do u have.i had a saff cosworth modified one on mine.and on my old standard lookin cab i had a bmw m3 e36 spoiler.that looked just rite.how much has it actually cost u to go from mfi to megasquirt?
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Same mate!




Complete conversion from MFI to up and running MS EFI cost me Ł675 and that was buying 90% of parts new!
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Had to make a slight adjustment to this with the grinder as it was fouling the CPS holder...



Clutch etc..



All ready to drop in when my Bro is about to help guide it in the engine bay without bouncing off the sides! lol



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Old 27-02-2010, 10:39 PM
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good job mate. dont no if ive missed it but what injecters are you using mate
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VXR 480cc mate, cheers!
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How much did it foul by mate? (the cps i mean)

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I cut off quite a big bit with a hacksaw then ground the rest nicely to shape, so a fair bit!
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not a bad price then mate.did u have to fit an efi loom?
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No mate the only part of the EFi loom you use is the Inlet assembly loom (injectors, ACT, TP, CLT, sensors), just cut out all the old MFI loom thats not needed, and MS comes with a loom raedy to be soldered up to the inlet loom and then just the CPS plug, and coil pack plug to fit! Easy mate!
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
No mate the only part of the EFi loom you use is the Inlet assembly loom (injectors, ACT, TP, CLT, sensors), just cut out all the old MFI loom thats not needed, and MS comes with a loom raedy to be soldered up to the inlet loom and then just the CPS plug, and coil pack plug to fit! Easy mate!
sounds pretty easy,im undecided what to do at the minute,im rebuilding an fiesta turbo bottom end so i may change management as it will have the cps hole.but im also thinking about getting it running well with a new lump and selling it as cabriolet values are creeping up now.i need to use mine everyday for work and it ent practical.ive been thinking of gettin an imprezalol.
i love the acceleration buzz,and i have 3 kids and they can never go in the cabriolet so i cant use it at the weekend when id like to.
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top work hope shes up and running soon
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Had a little bit of time after work today so dropped the lump in.......

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things are on the up for you now pal, just in time for summer


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