tubular manifold and fmic
31-10-2009, 01:29 AM
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So a T3 is shit is that what your saying?
Mate no offence they have a shit core and u wanna beat it well go buy a new turbo instead of a new cor pal
Enjoy anyway keep us posted of progress and power mate
All the best.
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31-10-2009, 08:30 AM
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whats wrong with the core in the gt series turbos ???????? they are a far better turbo than any old t series fact... things have changed in the 20 years since the t3 was first put on a escort thats why just about every modern turbo car runs a roller bearing turbo.
31-10-2009, 11:35 AM
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no mate i am not morph or like him at all.for arguments sake heres the link to the turbo.http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...R_471171_3.htm
if you look it says 170-270bhp,1.4l-2.2l,bigger dispalcement and you could achive 270 but not on a 1.6.200 is prob around what youd make on that turbo at a guess,but top end doesnt matter does it,as long as u can leave your mates saxo coming out of mcdonalds,thats what counts
31-10-2009, 12:28 PM
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if you look it says 170-270bhp,1.4l-2.2l,bigger dispalcement and you could achive 270 but not on a 1.6.200 is prob around what youd make on that turbo at a guess,but top end doesnt matter does it,as long as u can leave your mates saxo coming out of mcdonalds,thats what counts
31-10-2009, 09:00 PM
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if i was using a T3 then i would 100% use the manifold.not sure about the intercooler,have heard they are a lil heavy,so i decided il get a GRS instead
01-11-2009, 02:04 AM
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i fitted the auto spec manifold today and what a difference the engine feels alot more free. it revs better and feels like its got more power. taking it for an power run next week so will tell you if there is much bhp difference!!
01-11-2009, 02:47 AM
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now thats more like the sort of answer i was after tbh, actually someone who has the thing fitted and who is going to have proof of what difference it made not only on paper but actually thru driving it on the road, just out of interest did you have your car on the rollers before the manifold went on?
01-11-2009, 11:56 AM
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in tests it didnt make massive power gains but makes the engine feel like it reves better
they are desigined to be a direct replacment/replica of the original item which as ppl say is not a restrictive part anyway
front mounts are good and easy to fit i have one over the moon with it, there is some testing info on them in my RS Turbo thread
they are desigined to be a direct replacment/replica of the original item which as ppl say is not a restrictive part anyway
front mounts are good and easy to fit i have one over the moon with it, there is some testing info on them in my RS Turbo thread
01-11-2009, 02:45 PM
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i have it was currenty at 186 bhp but since then i have fitted a frount mount intercoolerso will tell you the results. not blown any gaskets yet but from what i have heread you need to get the maifold skimmed but mine seems ok at the moment.
01-11-2009, 03:07 PM
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Bottom line is that the standard manifold is the best bet for 95% of RS Turbo's that exist. Virtually NO-ONE has enough power to be worried about the manifold. Then you don't need to be concerned with machining flange faces flat and so on, because the standard one is just fine.
Also, the GRS Intercooler has been proven time and time again. I did 350bhp and 172mph with one, what more evidence is needed?
Also, the GRS Intercooler has been proven time and time again. I did 350bhp and 172mph with one, what more evidence is needed?
01-11-2009, 03:21 PM
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I'm not denying that, but when you are talking about replacing something that is absolutely bullet-proof, reliable and with no performance benefit with something that notoriously isn't very strong and doesn't seal properly it just seems odd.
It's why I went to the trouble of making sure mine was right, but the amount of work involved in that was unreal.
It's why I went to the trouble of making sure mine was right, but the amount of work involved in that was unreal.
02-11-2009, 06:33 PM
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03-11-2009, 09:18 PM
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this is my manifold and downpipe that i picked up today downpipe is 3 inch looking nice with the t34 strapped to it
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04-11-2009, 06:50 AM
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Bottom line is that the standard manifold is the best bet for 95% of RS Turbo's that exist. Virtually NO-ONE has enough power to be worried about the manifold. Then you don't need to be concerned with machining flange faces flat and so on, because the standard one is just fine.
Also, the GRS Intercooler has been proven time and time again. I did 350bhp and 172mph with one, what more evidence is needed?
Also, the GRS Intercooler has been proven time and time again. I did 350bhp and 172mph with one, what more evidence is needed?
wot I'm saying is surely having a slightly less restrictive manifold will give results even if there not in peak bhp/torque figures ie pub talk?
I mean an RST with 230bhp+ rst needs all the help it can get with regards to driveability/useability if still running the 1600.
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04-11-2009, 09:21 PM
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05-11-2009, 08:23 PM
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yes xr2wishy thats 250 for the manifold and 250 for down pipe which on my escort stretches past the gear selector so almost half the car so not to bad for price.
06-11-2009, 11:37 AM
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You were doubting my t3 cossie turbo could produce 300bhp but yet you believe a smaller gt25r/bb is capable of making 270bhp on a 1.6 cvh and also it is unlikely that your engine will make 270bhp@23psi, making 270bhp at a certain boost level will be down to the spec of your engine not what is quoted!
06-11-2009, 12:12 PM
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You were doubting my t3 cossie turbo could produce 300bhp but yet you believe a smaller gt25r/bb is capable of making 270bhp on a 1.6 cvh and also it is unlikely that your engine will make 270bhp@23psi, making 270bhp at a certain boost level will be down to the spec of your engine not what is quoted!
Some people don't listen.
And that be me included before anything get's said
06-11-2009, 02:10 PM
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You were doubting my t3 cossie turbo could produce 300bhp but yet you believe a smaller gt25r/bb is capable of making 270bhp on a 1.6 cvh and also it is unlikely that your engine will make 270bhp@23psi, making 270bhp at a certain boost level will be down to the spec of your engine not what is quoted!
06-11-2009, 03:31 PM
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.Mate u got a link of phone number?
Any sort of real need for that type of manifold?
Will it clear the bonnet? And what about the bonnet heat shield put one in place
06-11-2009, 03:32 PM
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No need for summat u don't need
.Keep it real IMO they cost enough as it is let alone buy an item for 300quid however much they are,And then gaining very little
06-11-2009, 03:39 PM
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yeah seems like the best thing to do so it will be
beiges
hybrid stage 2 t3
fmic
piper 285t cam and vernier
suitable chip and fine tune on the rolling road
and sometime down the line zvh conversion and ported head
beiges
hybrid stage 2 t3
fmic
piper 285t cam and vernier
suitable chip and fine tune on the rolling road
and sometime down the line zvh conversion and ported head
06-11-2009, 04:27 PM
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you should still come down its gd there normally a gd turn out. its at the hauton arms juction 3 off the m65 head towards wheelton and it within 100 meters off the round about
06-11-2009, 05:06 PM
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i'd swap the piper for a standard cam or newmans depending on your final power figure your after and do't bother with zvh as they cost more than to go full zetec as for the cost of the head to flow that much you could of bought your pistons for the full zetec and the standard head can flow 350 we build full zetecs for around a grand it's the bits like manifolds that make them dear
06-11-2009, 05:30 PM
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I agree with the above but..... the 285T is one of the best cam profiles out there (not the T2), so unless it's fucked dont ditch it! No more or less likely to last than any other cam on the market (baring Newmans which can made from better material than a lot of the others)
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