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Marts 18-05-2009 08:56 AM

Metering Unit Rebuild Kit - Still Available?
 
Im planning on having my metering unit ripped apart and rebuilt in the near future and Im sure ages ago i saw a rebuild kit for sale, ie gaskets and whatnot.... but now i cant find them anywhere!

Does anyone know where i can get one?

rstel1 18-05-2009 09:04 AM

I need a rebuild too, but dont know of anyone hope someone on here does.

Bit of a nighmare as i dont have the money to change to efi at the moment by the time you change all the parttsa to efi might as well go cossie/gotech at the same time :wall:

Marts 18-05-2009 09:12 AM

A guy 5 minutes up the road is doing it for me :top: I even mentioned the rebuild kit to him and he looked at me like Im a plank lol I swear Ive seen them tho....

Karlos G 18-05-2009 10:06 AM

Yeah there was one on ebay a while back, only one i've ever seen though.
TBH i'm sure it was just gaskets, seals, copper washers etc.. dont think it was actually any of the moving parts so could probably source most of it elsewhere, get the appropriate gasket paper and a scalpel and away you go! :king:

Marts 18-05-2009 10:10 AM

Yea, thats all it was... no major components, just gasket etc.

I just wanted to get the thing done properly...

Marts 18-05-2009 12:40 PM

Just spoke to the guy again. Its booked in for next wednesday... and still he doesnt know anything about a rebuild kit available. Im just not having a good day today :cry:

anvini 18-05-2009 04:13 PM

Hi

Some pics of my recently refurbed metering head...........

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/102...rareacondi.jpg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/455/dsc00329e.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6092/dsc00331p.jpg

I did it myself..... disassembled, cleaned-degreased and painted...........with new metering head gasket, new black brackets, nuts & bolts and brand new Banjoo bolts and copper washers for injector hoses.
I only need brand new braided hoses for metering head and will be ready to fit.


CheeRS

kellyalfie 18-05-2009 04:15 PM

theirs a place in fulham sw london does them mate around 500 sheets

Marts 18-05-2009 04:16 PM

That looks mint! Where'd you get all the bits from?

Marts 18-05-2009 04:17 PM

I ain't paying 500 notes!!! Only want the gaskets LOL

Karlos G 18-05-2009 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by anvini (Post 4156881)
Hi

Some pics of my recently refurbed metering head...........

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/102...rareacondi.jpg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/455/dsc00329e.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6092/dsc00331p.jpg

I did it myself..... disassembled, cleaned-degreased and painted...........with new metering head gasket, new black brackets, nuts & bolts and brand new Banjoo bolts and copper washers for injector hoses.
I only need brand new braided hoses for metering head and will be ready to fit.


CheeRS

Excellent work mate! :king:

anvini 18-05-2009 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Marts (Post 4156895)
I ain't paying 500 notes!!! Only want the gaskets LOL

Hi Mars

If you only want metering head gasket try to find it on Ford Dealers will cost 10-12 pounds, they are still available, I bought mine 2 months ago.
This is the Finis Code 1630674

CheeRS

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6889/0ee01.jpg

anvini 18-05-2009 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 4156939)
Excellent work mate! :king:


Many thanks mate!!:king:

rstel1 18-05-2009 08:37 PM

as said good work mate looks awesome!!

have to get me some silver paint and de greaser

dont forget you will need the car setting up again whn u put it back on

makaveli96 18-05-2009 08:45 PM

Looks stunning mate mine needs a good refurb at the moment.

Marts 18-05-2009 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by anvini (Post 4156967)
Hi Mars

If you only want metering head gasket try to find it on Ford Dealers will cost 10-12 pounds, they are still available, I bought mine 2 months ago.
This is the Finis Code 1630674

CheeRS

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6889/0ee01.jpg

cheers mate, you're a diamond! Are there any other things I need or is the gasket sufficient? All my banjos and banjo washers are new, but do I need to replace anything else inside?

rstdave 18-05-2009 10:19 PM

I can't see that just replacing washers/banjo bolts and painting it, whilst it may look good will actually do anything to remedy any problems with the metering unit. Unless you're just cleaning it to have it looking mint?

Marts 18-05-2009 10:30 PM

No, I'm having mine looked at cos it's causing problems. I'm looking for the parts so it can be put back together correctly. I mentioned the washers and banjos so Anvini didn't have to dig out the finis codes for them.

Maybe I wrote it wrong, sorry :king:

RSandy 18-05-2009 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by rstdave (Post 4158024)
I can't see that just replacing washers/banjo bolts and painting it, whilst it may look good will actually do anything to remedy any problems with the metering unit. Unless you're just cleaning it to have it looking mint?

haha yeah, exactly my thoughts mate. i split mine, painted it up, and bolted it back together with new gasket, but purely for it to look clean and pretty.

if i had worries of it not functioning correctly, id be simply looking for a replacement that did work, as the replacements parts that actually do anything of merit cost a bomb new, if even still available!

Marts 18-05-2009 10:32 PM

Maybe I read your post wrong and you weren't actually replying to me? :doh:

Karlos G 19-05-2009 09:26 AM

I'm not sure what actually wears out/breaks in the metering units, does anyone know?
The only thing i've had die before is the EMFPA and so it wasnt fuelling.

Marts 19-05-2009 09:50 AM

I spoke with the guy doing mine and he said that there isnt much to change in them... but the gaskets can leak/split. He said the components inside can just be tightened/reset/realigned etc.

Got my gasket coming in the morning, thanks Anvini :king: Cost £11.01 (ex VAT)

anvini 19-05-2009 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by rstdave (Post 4158024)
I can't see that just replacing washers/banjo bolts and painting it, whilst it may look good will actually do anything to remedy any problems with the metering unit. Unless you're just cleaning it to have it looking mint?


Hi

Done for good looking because was full of grease (old oil burned and stucked inside walls and moving parts of the metering head) and some rusty parts.
I think full mechanical refurb of metering head is very difficult due unavailable parts and not easy set up of them.

anvini 19-05-2009 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Marts (Post 4158456)
I spoke with the guy doing mine and he said that there isnt much to change in them... but the gaskets can leak/split. He said the components inside can just be tightened/reset/realigned etc.

Got my gasket coming in the morning, thanks Anvini :king: Cost £11.01 (ex VAT)


Hi

I´m glad to know that my info was helpful.
Íf you need banjo bolts and copper washers let me know.

CheeRS

rstdave 19-05-2009 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Marts (Post 4158058)
Maybe I read your post wrong and you weren't actually replying to me? :doh:

Was just replying to the thread in general mate, wasn't tryin to have a dig at anyone at all! I was trying to get at the point a few others have now picked up on that metering units seem to be a bit of a black art in repairing them and that unless you can replace the internal parts that acually meter the fuel etc which it seems isn't financially viable it will just be a 'pretty' metering unit rather than a manky looking fucked metering unit lol. I've nothing against cleaning things up to make them look nice though ;)

Marts 19-05-2009 06:50 PM

I'll see what state mines in next week. The guys gonna do the best he can with it anyway. Mine works, just not very well with start up due the flap mechanism or something? Also mines missing the blanking plug, but ain't that a simple case of adding a M6 bolt or something?

Cheers for the offer of banjos and washers, Anvini :top:

And Dave, I never thought ya were digging at anyone... It's cool

anvini 19-05-2009 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Marts (Post 4159523)
I'll see what state mines in next week. The guys gonna do the best he can with it anyway. Mine works, just not very well with start up due the flap mechanism or something? Also mines missing the blanking plug, but ain't that a simple case of adding a M6 bolt or something?

Cheers for the offer of banjos and washers, Anvini :top:

And Dave, I never thought ya were digging at anyone... It's cool

Ok mate!!

If anyone want to buy a set, a guy in E-bay sells them, this is the e-bay auction:

http://cgi.ebay.es/Escort-Rs-Turbo-B...742.m153.l1262

CheeRS.

makaveli96 19-05-2009 08:38 PM

Cheers for that anvini is there any thing else apart from the metering haed gasket head that we can buy on ebay?

anvini 20-05-2009 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by makaveli96 (Post 4159930)
Cheers for that anvini is there any thing else apart from the metering haed gasket head that we can buy on ebay?

Hi

Same guy sells brand new braided metering head hoses on ebay, check his other items......

CheeRS

Marts 20-05-2009 08:30 AM

Is it a M6 bolt thats used to block the mixture screw off? I just wanna have everything i can think off in one place to help make the guys life a little easier. Cheers

Karlos G 20-05-2009 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Marts (Post 4160471)
Is it a M6 bolt thats used to block the mixture screw off? I just wanna have everything i can think off in one place to help make the guys life a little easier. Cheers

I'm not sure on the size but if thats missing from yours then it will start and idle like a pile of crap! Air leak mate!

rstel1 20-05-2009 09:05 AM

good info on this thread, does anyone what causes the problems with the metering heads? i have a spare metering head at home so i am gonna refurb that one with gasket and washers ect

Karlos G 20-05-2009 09:11 AM

What we need is someone to stip one down take some nice piccy's and post them up so we can all get a better understanding of how they work! :king:
I have the top part of the metering unit in my garage, might strip that down later but I have a alloy clutch quadrant to fit first.

Marts 20-05-2009 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 4160512)
I'm not sure on the size but if thats missing from yours then it will start and idle like a pile of crap! Air leak mate!

idles fine, just a f*cking pig to start! I know it makes a difference cos when I block it with my finger, it lifts revs.... But all will be sorted next week :king:

Marts 28-05-2009 11:44 AM

Hoping for a quick response here guys....

If a fueling meter allows fuel to come out of the boost hose (lower) is there an easy cure, like possibly just changing the gasket between the top fuel part (with lines attached) to the top of the metering unit?

Or is this something alittle more a case of just binning it and getting another one?

Marts 28-05-2009 01:54 PM

I have looked through the haynes manual because all i can think that'll let fuel thru it is the fuel distributor is leaking thru its seal... heres the bit from haynes

Originally Posted by HAYNES
Refitting is a reversal of removal, but
ensure perfectly clean mating faces and use a
new sealing O-ring and new washers for the
banjo unions. Check for any signs of leaks on
completion and adjust the idle speed and
mixture settings as described in Chapter 1.

It has to be the O-Ring thats causing this issue, surely?? Anyone have a finis code, or know what can be used?

Marts 29-05-2009 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 4160518)
What we need is someone to stip one down take some nice piccy's and post them up so we can all get a better understanding of how they work! :king:

Heres the exploded diagram ford sent thru.....Maybe not what you want, but its better than nothing lol

https://passionford.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=6330

By the looks of it, theres no o-ring between the fuel distributor and the bottom part, although its not a whole unit that this diagram makes out!

Rob_DOHC 31-08-2009 08:08 PM

Any more news on the metering unit? I have just bought an rs turbo and its a nightmare to start when warm. I can just get it to click if i take the air filter off and get some one to lightly press on the metering flap...

Any one know where i can get a new/recon metering unit?

Cheers
Rob,

RAT8OY 31-08-2009 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC (Post 4368293)
Any more news on the metering unit? I have just bought an rs turbo and its a nightmare to start when warm. I can just get it to click if i take the air filter off and get some one to lightly press on the metering flap...

Any one know where i can get a new/recon metering unit?

Cheers
Rob,

Every Rs turbo I have had runing KE has always coughed and spluttered on start up after a longer than expected turn over period!

Does anybody know what causes this? Once its up and running after a few second its fine but if anything it can be a little embarassing if you are taking contractors out to look at work. Its a sort of will it or wont it start situation!

Karlos G 31-08-2009 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC (Post 4368293)
Any more news on the metering unit? I have just bought an rs turbo and its a nightmare to start when warm. I can just get it to click if i take the air filter off and get some one to lightly press on the metering flap...

Any one know where i can get a new/recon metering unit?

Cheers
Rob,


Originally Posted by RAT8OY (Post 4368351)
Every Rs turbo I have had runing KE has always coughed and spluttered on start up after a longer than expected turn over period!

Does anybody know what causes this? Once its up and running after a few second its fine but if anything it can be a little embarassing if you are taking contractors out to look at work. Its a sort of will it or wont it start situation!

For one of a few reasons the idle mixture is wrong is all it will be, auxilary air device not working, faulty coolant temp sensor, faulty cold start injector, leaking main injectors, incorrectly set idle mixture screw.


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