adam.d

After replacing the head gasket due to it blowing on the way back from having it setup, then replacing the bottom end due to no1 piston and rod having an argument, then replacing the gearbox as the diff fell apart, then buying a new turbo due to the oil seals going in the old 1 and turning the car into a smoke machine that used more oil than petrol!, all this is in 3 months max of owning it. Now it's back to being a smoke machine . I went out in it this morning and there was no smoke at all from the exhaust. Parked it up and went for dinner, come back and it's smoking like a chimney. If it's not something cheap and easy to fix I'm going to set it on fire!

Smartdj.

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not good atall..soryy to hear this pal....was it a second hand turbo u have just put on it and did u prime the bearing?

adam.d

Yep, s/h turbo. What do you mean prime the bearing? I put oil down the hole that the oil feed pipe fits onto and turned the shaft, thought that was all I needed to do?

orion_crazy_carl

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get a NEW engine a properly rebuilt turbo,messing with second hand bits all the time is gonna cause this trouble!

Smartdj.

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when fitting a fresh turbo to an engine u need to prime the bearing by removing the ht lead and cranking the engine over for 20 seconds or so..to get oil presure up...then it will be fine to start the engine....when u have done this i would still let the engine idle for a couple of mins or so

adam.d

I had a brand new engine mate, but the bottom end fell apart. I bought the replacement bottom end off a lad on here and this also had just had a rebuild thats why I bought it. I'd love to just go and buy a brand new engine and a brand new turbo and a brand new gearbox then take them all to a proffesional ford fixing place and get them to fit them but unfortunatley I'm not made of money.

Karlos G

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Is it blue smoke again Adam? When does it smoke?

Miller 3

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is it just oil in the exhaust from the last turbo?

Rick

sounds like the turbo to be honest. S/H turbo's are look of the draw. They may smoke on one car, and then not on another.

Chopshop85

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I hear that. Ive just had a head and block rebuilt, and a LSD gearbox, and getting my turbo rebuilt atm. Whilst also finding no end of broken engine components when removing the old engine....really starting to feel the pinch now.

However, my girlfriend keeps saying i spend to much money on the car, but including purchasing it, 2 years of driving, and now a full rebuild, Ive still not spent as much as she did for her clio.... and i know what id rather have. =]

RST's can really get you down sometimes... but you'll regret it if you get rid of it, just stick with it man!

Karlos G

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I echo those words mate....

mikemcc03

i was in the same boat as you mate head gasket done with genuine ford gasket then like you said number 1 piston an rod had a fallin out an went there seperate ways back on the road now an running less than standard boost till i can affort to get it set up. once its gone you will miss it but having money might make up for it somehow.

adam.d

Blueish, and grey. It smokes as soon as I turn the key!. The last turbo was completly shot and that only smoked when I rev'd the engine. There seems to be a breather problem I think because it still runs when I take the oil cap off, dipstick out and BOTH breather pipes off the rocker cover!!!

Skotie jay

one thing after another fords
this is why we all love them least u can get in there an do it your self lol
my piston decided it wanted to melt on sunday nyte so now im walking round so thinking bout geting a run around
but i agree stick with it an get things refurbed dont buys second hand ever of if u do get the reconed lol

adam.d

I bought this turbo because it had apparently only done a few miles. There is next to no movement in the shaft and so signs of oil leaks. To have my old turbo reconned was going to cost Ł600 + vat and I can't afford to pay that.

Chopshop85

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is that a standard turbo?

i spoke to the guys at Turbo development in middlesex. They charge from Ł190 to maximum of Ł310 depending on what needs fixing.

TurboTechnics near me wasn't much more than that either.

Rick

are your breather pipes clear?

adam.d

I took my turbo to them still on the manifold and with the bleed valve on. They said they could rebuild it to standard for Ł400 +vat but wouldn't guarantee it because I was running over standard boost. If I wanted it doing to stage 2 it would be Ł600+vat and they would guarantee it.

adam.d

The right hand 1, if I take it off the rocker cover I can blow down it no problem so would say it's clear. The left hand 1 just has a pipe coming off it going to a plastic bottle. Is there any more?

Chopshop85

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Ł400 still seems quite a bit of standard. That Ł310 quote is 1st class service exchange from turbo developments.

maybe you should have a shop round for stage 2 prices? its gonna beat going through several S/H turbo's.

andy130

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adam i no how u feel when i got my frst needed gearbox then bottom end then turbo and clutch and head f**king rs turbos
it sounds like the turbo mate

Karlos G

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Thats perfectly ok because you've blocked the metering return off so there is no air leak

So let me get this clear.........

You fitted the new turbo.
Was boosting to 12psi.
All running fine.

Then you turned the boost up to 18psi using the bleed valve....

Fine for a little while.
Now smoking like a bitch as soon as you turn the key.

I would say you've done the head gasket mate.

adam.d

Well I also thought it might be head gasket but I have no oil in water or water in oil. I'll have another look at it tomorro. If it's head gasket it's not the end of the world, if it's turbo or bottom end then I think it's just taking the piss out of me!!!!!

adam.d

Also, if it is head gasket, what's caused it? the last turbo ran at 18psi, is it extra heat produced from a standard turbo instead of it being a stage2?
if this is the case will i only be able to run this turbo at 12psi?

Karlos G

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You do not always get oil/water contamination if the HG fails, i've had one go and the only symptoms were that i was smoking like a chimney and running slighly lumpy.

Yes it will be the extra heat and or detonation, headgaskets 99% of the time fail because of high temps normally caused by people turning the boost up without having the fuelling set to match and the timing adjusted.

JamboRS

done the hg by turnin the boost up?
id say more like bottom end again if boost has just been turned up and no set up to make sure its fuelin ok

does it breathe heavy???

adam.d

I get visable oily smoke out the left hand rocker cover breather.

adam.d

Is there any way I can have the problem checked out to see if it's the head gasket or the bottom end for sure? don't fancy changing the gasket if thats not the problem!

adam.d

This car is defo female, it's just taking the piss out of me! started it this morning and no smoke! turned the boost down to about 5 psi and went for a drive. I let the temp get to half way before any boost at all and still no smoke, only a tiny amount of white condensation from the exhaust. The rocker cover on the left is still smoking and I have taken a video and am uploading it now, could someone have a look and see what they think

adam.d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUI7Q7C4mg0

have a look!

Chris69

looks fine to me i that vid

adam.d

So is that smoke coming out of the breather pipe normal then?

rickbartlett

i would have thort that was normal.why dont u do a compression test to rule out head gasket

JamboRS

smoke looks normal mate

adam.d

I've done a comp test and it showed an equal 10bar on all cylinders

rstel1

looks ok to me

adam.d

Well Ive just been for a nice long ride in it, and no smoke whilst off boost or on boost, driving slow or flat out nothing, not even a slight puff! I just can't understand this car but I'm quite happy it's ok now

Pete frst

rs turbos can be a cruel mistress...............

Karlos G

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Thats a strange one Adam, odd how it's stopped smoking all of a sudden!!
The breather smoke is not something I have personally seen before (i get nothing from mine) but if others say it's normal then I guess it's ok.
I'd still get it setup before turning the boost up again though!

adam.d

Boost is staying where it is Even Jano from oddkidd said the smoke was ok so looks like it's nothing to worry about! might have even had some oil in the exhaust from last time, who knows!