3 or 4 point harness for recaros?
16-12-2007, 09:44 PM
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I use Luke Pro 4-point 50mm harnesses. They fit nicely.
You can screw the eye bolts into the standard seat-belt fixing points, so that you can remove the harnesses when you don't want them in. They also pass between the headrest uprights. I don't even take my rear seat out.
I have mine boxed as 'Driver' and 'Passenger' so that I know which is mine, then I clip it in and it needs no adjustment.
You can screw the eye bolts into the standard seat-belt fixing points, so that you can remove the harnesses when you don't want them in. They also pass between the headrest uprights. I don't even take my rear seat out.
I have mine boxed as 'Driver' and 'Passenger' so that I know which is mine, then I clip it in and it needs no adjustment.
17-12-2007, 09:48 AM
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I dont use harnesses with normal road seats anymore, not even on trackdays. I did a bit of research after a couple of different people (Both pro track driving instructors) gave me some advice after seeing me with them...
Race seats and harnesses. Two mods that go hand-in-hand. A race seat will hold you more securely in place when experiencing sideways G-forces, but more importantly has the slots to enable you to fit a 6-point harness. Properly fitted and tightened, this will hold you tightly in your seat even if the car rolls.
This qualification is important: a harness is only effective if you pull it almost uncomfortably tight. It is also important to ensure that the fastening point of a harness is roughly at shoulder height, and that the webbing run-outs are as short as possible, as they will stretch under load.
A 6-point harness is much safer than a 4-point one. With a 4-point, the harness can ride up your body in a crash, and all the forward forces can go onto your abdomen, crushing your vital organs. A 6-point holds the harness down.
A harness with folding road seats and mounting points at floor level is positively dangerous: in a rollover, the seat is likely to break, putting all of the force through your now-unprotected back. A broken back is the likely result. If you have road seats, stick to seat-belts, perhaps supplemented with a CG-Lock to help keep them tight.
This qualification is important: a harness is only effective if you pull it almost uncomfortably tight. It is also important to ensure that the fastening point of a harness is roughly at shoulder height, and that the webbing run-outs are as short as possible, as they will stretch under load.
A 6-point harness is much safer than a 4-point one. With a 4-point, the harness can ride up your body in a crash, and all the forward forces can go onto your abdomen, crushing your vital organs. A 6-point holds the harness down.
A harness with folding road seats and mounting points at floor level is positively dangerous: in a rollover, the seat is likely to break, putting all of the force through your now-unprotected back. A broken back is the likely result. If you have road seats, stick to seat-belts, perhaps supplemented with a CG-Lock to help keep them tight.
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I must say i was dissapointed when i found that out...
I used to love the harnesses on trackdays just for the fact that they held you into the seat so you could concentrate on driving, rather than having to partially concentrate on trying to stay in your seat
I always thought that they would be better than seatbelts in a crash, but no.
When you think about it even in a front end shunt (No roll over), your weight will go straight forward and because the rear starps are mounted at floor level your forward momentum will exert pressure straight down on the seat back, which could snap the hinges at which point you might as well not be strapped in at all, as the harness will have gone slack
And the seat back will push straight into the small of your back...
Nasty!
Apparently those CG lock things are good but ive never used them- Just a metal clip that goes on your seatbelt, allowing you to pull the belt tight and lock it tight, so you are held back securely in the seat by the stock seatbelt
I used to love the harnesses on trackdays just for the fact that they held you into the seat so you could concentrate on driving, rather than having to partially concentrate on trying to stay in your seat
I always thought that they would be better than seatbelts in a crash, but no.
When you think about it even in a front end shunt (No roll over), your weight will go straight forward and because the rear starps are mounted at floor level your forward momentum will exert pressure straight down on the seat back, which could snap the hinges at which point you might as well not be strapped in at all, as the harness will have gone slack
And the seat back will push straight into the small of your back...Nasty!
Apparently those CG lock things are good but ive never used them- Just a metal clip that goes on your seatbelt, allowing you to pull the belt tight and lock it tight, so you are held back securely in the seat by the stock seatbelt
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