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Old 20-02-2006 | 05:02 AM
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Default Full steel bottom end, when do i need it? and what to get?

i am currently trying to sort out the spec of my engine and so i need some advice.. this engine build is a learning process for me as i am not skilled in tuning cars, i know the basic stripdown and rebuild of engines, but i haven't taken it much further before..so the basic skills and some more specific is in place, but still need lots and lots of advice..

the engine is being built so it can take a lot of abuse and power(hopefully). i want to build it so it can take around 300 hp(in time) and i want parts that have a good value for money ratio, not shite parts but not overpriced stuff if you know what i mean.. could also need advice on where to get the parts from(in the uk as prices in norway can't be compared).

so i was wondering, how far up the hp and rpm scale can the standard crank shaft be used? assuming it is in good condition and fully balanced..

what make of con rods and low comp forged pistons to use? where to get it?

if you need any more info from me as i'm sure you do please ask..
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I *think* the standard crank is good for more power than that for that power you'll want steel rods, farndon perhaps? - You can get them from Burton Power. As with pistons, low comp cossie racing are usually a good option. Again Burton sell them.

That's just a guide - I don't know much either !
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You can no longer get Cosworth Pistons for an RST
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ok, so the original crank is good enough for these powerlevels?

@tony turbo, you got the power levels i was wondering about, any possibility you could give me your bottom end specs or are they secret?
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Depends on what you want to know exactly...
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especially if you have a steel crank? also interested in makes of rods and pistons.. compression ratio with the pistons used and so on.. if you want to keep some of the spec a secret i completely understand..
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New standard crank

Fardon Rods

Custom made Ross Racing Pistons



I hope that is of some use to you
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thats great tony.. at last i got the crank question out of the way.. have been thinking about that for some time now..

btw: do you know if christian&becky is running standard crank too? just thought i'd ask.. similar power in his engine too isn't it?
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
You can no longer get Cosworth Pistons for an RST
- Ignore me then I should have known
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Originally Posted by RoBoX
btw: do you know if christian&becky is running standard crank too? just thought i'd ask.. similar power in his engine too isn't it?
I'm sure Mr C won't mind me saying that our engines are the same, exept for cam, turbo and inlets.



Adam - Don't worry about it mate, we tried for ages to get some and couldn't get them anyway unless we got X amount of people to group buy them into re- making them
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i have a standard ford crank but then had it knife edged,tuftridedand lightened and balanced
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Originally Posted by RoBoX
btw: do you know if christian&becky is running standard crank too? just thought i'd ask.. similar power in his engine too isn't it?
I'm sure Mr C won't mind me saying that our engines are the same, exept for cam, turbo and inlets.



Adam - Don't worry about it mate, we tried for ages to get some and couldn't get them anyway unless we got X amount of people to group buy them into re- making them
Only heard good things about Ross Racing though !
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thank you tony..

will be looking into the rods and pistons you said..

@gus: what does it mean to have it knife edged?
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Originally Posted by RoBoX
btw: do you know if christian&becky is running standard crank too? just thought i'd ask.. similar power in his engine too isn't it?
I'm sure Mr C won't mind me saying that our engines are the same, exept for cam, turbo and inlets.



Adam - Don't worry about it mate, we tried for ages to get some and couldn't get them anyway unless we got X amount of people to group buy them into re- making them
Only heard good things about Ross Racing though !

Yeah, they are a good piston, made much better than the Cosworth ones were and not alot of difference in price too. And they can be custom made so as long as you know the dimensions you need you are laughing.

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Who is Ross Racing, only heard of them through reading on here........
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Look on Google you lazy git They make alot of Nascar pistons...



(P.S. Bought a gun yet? )
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Originally Posted by RoBoX
btw: do you know if christian&becky is running standard crank too? just thought i'd ask.. similar power in his engine too isn't it?
I'm sure Mr C won't mind me saying that our engines are the same, exept for cam, turbo and inlets.



Adam - Don't worry about it mate, we tried for ages to get some and couldn't get them anyway unless we got X amount of people to group buy them into re- making them
Only heard good things about Ross Racing though !

Yeah, they are a good piston, made much better than the Cosworth ones were and not alot of difference in price too. And they can be custom made so as long as you know the dimensions you need you are laughing.

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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
Look on Google you lazy git They make alot of Nascar pistons...



(P.S. Bought a gun yet? )

Will do



And no not yet
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
You can no longer get Cosworth Pistons for an RST
how long has that been the case ?
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