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Old 21-12-2005, 06:14 PM
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what are the sizes of t34 turbo available?
seems to be alot of variants out there!
what is the size of the std large turbo ecos one?
Old 21-12-2005, 06:17 PM
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std ecos T3/04 .63AR Exhaust housing
Old 21-12-2005, 06:30 PM
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is that the biggest size Damo?
just askin cuz one of me mates has just had a new one for his saff and it looks smaller
Old 21-12-2005, 06:34 PM
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Actually I think its officially called the T3/04b

Maybe he has a smaller zorst housing..

.48, .55...
Old 21-12-2005, 07:07 PM
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Would fitting a smaller housing say a .48 improve the lag/acceleration but effect the top end?
Old 22-12-2005, 07:53 AM
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I have a t34 with a .48 exhaust housing. When it was set up i was told if you wanted lower down acceleration then it was well better. You wouldnt feel any benefit on a bigger size under probably 100mph, then the .48 starts to run out of steam.
Old 22-12-2005, 09:37 AM
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A .48 wont rn out of puff tilll 120-130, You will still be able to pull 150 though but yes it WILL respond ALOT quicker!!
Old 22-12-2005, 10:02 AM
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I know what u mean mate but i think after 100mph a .63 housing would be better. Ive tried both and the .63 feels well stronger later on, it cant match the punch of the .48 tho... What .55?? didnt know there was one. How does this compare?
Old 22-12-2005, 10:05 AM
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I'll have a chat with Ahmed then when he does the Stage 3
Old 22-12-2005, 10:06 AM
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hmmmmn yeah I will tell you what I think once I have tried my .48...

I havent really had alot of feedback re the .55 so couldnt comment, I would presume as there arent many specced with them they are semi pointless, ie go for a .48 or a .63...
Old 22-12-2005, 10:07 AM
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Paul,

Ahmed Harvey and Mike, all rave about the .48 tilll 400brake/headwork and cams.. As I say I shall reserve judgement till I'm set-up
Old 22-12-2005, 10:14 AM
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Cool sounds like my cup of tea as I've always been keener on acceleration then top end
Old 22-12-2005, 10:26 AM
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I was looking at changing to a .63 in the new year but cant decide. Currently on light blues with a .48 but lookin at goin to grey with cams. Did u mean if you have headwork/cams then u need a .63
Old 22-12-2005, 10:43 AM
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If you want above 380-390, then yes a .63... on greys, but to go much above that ( ideally even at that stage) power wise you really need to look at headwork/cam(s) IMO
Old 22-12-2005, 10:52 AM
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damo.. you have a .48?


WHY?
Old 22-12-2005, 10:55 AM
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As mentioned above... TBH I didnt ask for it and there was nothing wrong with my .63

I found out on Dyno day...
I wasnt overly impressed as I also paid Ł325 for a turbo overhaul (inc 360 bearing) and lost the .63...

Harvey has told me he will swop it back to a .63 for free if I dont like it

I will see what I think... If it does run out of puff higher up. It WILL be coming off..
Old 22-12-2005, 10:57 AM
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I should also add, I spoke to Harvey personally about this and have told him EXACTLY how I felt so I'm not saying anything he doesnt already know direct from me
Old 22-12-2005, 10:57 AM
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it will run out of puff mate
Old 22-12-2005, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
it will run out of puff mate
Compared to your turbo yes but compared to the average stgIII Cossie... I dunno...

We'll see, I used to like the drop to 4th at 80-90 floor to 6/6.5k, pull like a train into 5th keep pulling, IF it doesnt have that as I say it will come off
Old 22-12-2005, 11:01 AM
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I looked at my exh housing the other day.....

i swear i could see.. what looked like..... 909.......
Old 22-12-2005, 11:02 AM
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ROFL ... Actually is it a quick release housing??
Old 22-12-2005, 11:05 AM
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If you look at my dyno prints

It pulls MAX power at 6.5k RPM

Though MAX torque at just under 3K then tails off...

HOW this will compare on the road to my .63 Time will tell....






I would be intersted in seeing a T34 with a .63 dyno print to compare...

Post yours up Dave, Obviously its ALOT different to mine but be interested in looking again
Old 22-12-2005, 11:07 AM
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When you try it you may change your mind, yes it will lose top end power but lower down its sooo much better. Im in the opposite corner id like more top end but not sacrificing the low down kick.
Old 22-12-2005, 11:09 AM
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I believe the other reason Harvey specced it with a .48 as opposed to .63 is because as you know it was imperative to me the engine was SAFE.... SAFE, SAFE, SAFE... that was MORE important to me than bigger power.. so with a .48 it liits power and the ammount of boost pressure it FLOWS )not level)
Old 22-12-2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by adam@quikshift
When you try it you may change your mind, yes it will lose top end power but lower down its sooo much better. Im in the opposite corner id like more top end but not sacrificing the low down kick.
I have considered this,... As at "the traffic light grand prix", 4WD and the .48 should make it a killer... I do remember wait ... wait ..wait.. AHHHHH FULL boost... see ya
Old 22-12-2005, 11:24 AM
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This is a T34/.63AR on Light Blues (dunno further spec) though apparently it EATS Turbos



And Mine as a comparison

Old 22-12-2005, 11:30 AM
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Interstingly at 5.5k power and torque are not far off identical mine is 1 PSI less..
Old 22-12-2005, 12:13 PM
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Thats not what i was expecting.... Not a lot of benefit in .63 unless you rev the sack out of it. When do you get to drive your car then with the smaller housing? Waiting on results
Old 22-12-2005, 12:14 PM
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As soon as its been set up... all run in just need to arrange meeting up with Ahmed
Old 22-12-2005, 12:15 PM
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Just like to add, if the .63 car runs nearly 420bhp then surely it must have a fair bit of cams/headwork?
Old 22-12-2005, 01:21 PM
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moody pics but look how straight my torque curve is

ruler anyone



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ive run a .55 on mine for last couple of yrs,best of both worlds
Old 24-12-2005, 02:36 AM
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Gregs,

If your on about Spencers Saph then he has a .55
Old 24-12-2005, 02:36 AM
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Gregs,

If your on about Spencers Saph then he has a .55
Old 24-12-2005, 04:00 PM
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agh that makes sence now, very fast car kris, has spen taken you out in it yet?
have you had the cage put in the fiesta yet?
Old 25-12-2005, 01:58 AM
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No not been out in his yet.

Will be having the cage put in before Bedford all being well
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Originally Posted by adam@quikshift
Just like to add, if the .63 car runs nearly 420bhp then surely it must have a fair bit of cams/headwork?
Yes it did indeed. I STILL preferred the 0.48 housing though, despite above 100mph being able to pull away from a 390bhp equipped 0.48 car. For B-roads, the 0.48 is unbeatable and will show almost ANYTHING it's heals. On A-roads Dave's car will shine through and kill Damo's. Basically it is horses for courses.

A 0.48 is the BEST compromise - the 0.63 is more focused (and a waste of time on a Stage III ).
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A 0.48 is the BEST compromise - the 0.63 is more focused (and a waste of time on a Stage III ).[/quote]

So are you saying if the car has had cams etc its better with a .48? I would have thought it was the other way around. Got me thinking now...
What about greys compared to light blues? Would this warrant a bigger housing?
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No, I'm saying that you won't make full use of the bigger housing with green injectors (stage III). So if you're staying with these, then there is no point going to the bigger housing, as you will have more lag and not be able to make use of the the extra top end the 0.63 gives, because the injectors will run out of duty cycle.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
No, I'm saying that you won't make full use of the bigger housing with green injectors (stage III). So if you're staying with these, then there is no point going to the bigger housing, as you will have more lag and not be able to make use of the the extra top end the 0.63 gives, because the injectors will run out of duty cycle.....
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