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Old 28-10-2008, 02:12 PM
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Default Who has gone to an escos from a 2wd cossie?

did it feel piss slow?
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yep so 2wd it
Old 28-10-2008, 03:52 PM
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When i first got mine it did fell slow tbh.... But it was running crap 300 bhp chip.

So a quick call to stu and a new chip, more boost 360 BHP thanks very much !

Now its feels fast ...

It mainly because you dont get that surge from the rear like you do in a 2wd cos.


Old 28-10-2008, 03:59 PM
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Yes and I hate it,i often get the urge to go back to a 2wd saff with 500 bhp,they just drive soo much better,problem is Escorts look twice as good,
Old 28-10-2008, 04:02 PM
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I am SERIOUSLY thinking of RWDing one as Dan will know

best of both worlds?
Old 28-10-2008, 04:04 PM
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ye, i had a stage 3 saph was rapid, then a stage 3 escort and it wasnt even as quick as a new scooby sti, thats why i say its the worst performance car pound for pound i have ever owned
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
ye, i had a stage 3 saph was rapid, then a stage 3 escort and it wasnt even as quick as a new scooby sti, thats why i say its the worst performance car pound for pound i have ever owned

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Old 28-10-2008, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
ye, i had a stage 3 saph was rapid, then a stage 3 escort and it wasnt even as quick as a new scooby sti, thats why i say its the worst performance car pound for pound i have ever owned

even though escort cossies dont drop in value ?????????????
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
ye, i had a stage 3 saph was rapid, then a stage 3 escort and it wasnt even as quick as a new scooby sti, thats why i say its the worst performance car pound for pound i have ever owned

I suppose you've still got the Vtec to knock it off the list when you sell it

Old 28-10-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan@Rapid-Ford
I suppose you've still got the Vtec to knock it off the list when you sell it

All joking aside standard for standard an integra would obliterate an escort cossie in every department that counts
Old 28-10-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cossieDavedree
even though escort cossies dont drop in value ?????????????
Not really the point though is it, 15k for a standard ecort cossie that would get beaten off 1k worth of nova xe lol
Old 28-10-2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Not really the point though is it, 15k for a standard ecort cossie that would get beaten off 1k worth of nova xe lol

not gonna disagree with what your saying cos you are right.

However I just can't accept what ur saying lol
because its an escort cossie and they are damn sexy.
Old 28-10-2008, 07:52 PM
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I'm going the other way, sold the escos to buy a 3dr.
Old 28-10-2008, 09:08 PM
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jesus christ

the escort cosworth was made to rally and a honda integra would get its arse kicked if you took it through a forest or tarmac rally stage, if hondas were so good why didn't they win a world rally championship ?, honda certainly rallied them and i know a team that prepared them for rallying but they won fook all compared to a cozzie.

i have had a escort and a 3dr at the same time and much prefer the escort, its a faster car doing what it was designed for
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I went form a very nice 4x4 saph on greens to a esc cos small turbo with a stg1 conv, got it nearly 6 years ago and it's still slow compaired to my old saph

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Originally Posted by cozzfather
i have had a escort and a 3dr at the same time and much prefer the escort, its a faster car doing what it was designed for

Thats the thing.........my cossie is batshit fast.......................after a hundred

BUT it was only a matter of time before i got busted at some silly speed. Hoping that the escos will still be fun but just at more sensible speeds. However I am looking into RWD'ing it if not but its all a bit of a at the moment lol

what's a ST version like as a nice useable ROAD car?
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escos on stage one is always gonna seem slow to a saph on greens which must of been nearly 300bhp if not more
Old 28-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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i dunno i'm thinking of joining a honda website and moaning about how hondas are shit in rallying compared to escort cosworths.

if you want a nice comfy cozzie get a sierra 4dr and save money, if you want a car that was faster doing what it was born to do which was be grabbed by the scruff of the neck and driven hard around twisting roads get the escort.
if you like the looks of a escort coz and wanna give it large and wheelspin everywhere change it to rwd
Old 28-10-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
i dunno i'm thinking of joining a honda website and moaning about how hondas are shit in rallying compared to escort cosworths.
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Old 29-10-2008, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
i had a stage 3 saph was rapid
Still goes canny mate
Old 29-10-2008, 12:27 AM
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totally different engine and chip in it now though from when i had it. Turbo is still the same genuine garrett t34 though
Old 29-10-2008, 07:15 AM
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once above 80 ish though, hoof down and that 1.9 bar boost spike hurls it past scoobys ( on the track of course )
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Not really the point though is it, 15k for a standard ecort cossie that would get beaten off 1k worth of nova xe lol
and?not exactly the rght comparison. my 205 mi-16 made a 996 carrera 4 look silly. but the porsche is a far superior car.

and as for the honda comment,the problem is everyone is still after all these years comparing a car thats ages old to a new era car.imo says alot about the cossie's staying power.
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must admit i toy with the idea of 2wd mine but the only car rwd ive driven is a 325 e36
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Originally Posted by Bullett
must admit i toy with the idea of 2wd mine but the only car rwd ive driven is a 325 e36

i'll let you know if its worth it

anymore for anymore?
Old 29-10-2008, 08:30 AM
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P.S does anyone have any comments on the handling with the slightly shorter wheel base?
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
if you like the looks of a escort coz and wanna give it large and wheelspin everywhere change it to rwd
You'd be supprised at just how much grip they have it's not like a 2wd saff

Originally Posted by rsnissan
P.S does anyone have any comments on the handling with the slightly shorter wheel base?
its hard work compared to a 3dr cos they're not just shorter they are stiffer too but with practice you get better so do it and practice lots and get better

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GjK8gU1Jsns

he's on the brakes a lot here
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looks like fun that, wonder what it goes like in a straight line hurry up and sort that fuel tank out
Old 29-10-2008, 02:36 PM
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I went from a 500bhp Sapphire to a 400bhp Escort. Suffice to say it didn't stay 400bhp for long!

Even though it is now similar power, it is nowhere near as fast as the Sapphire and from 100mph the Sapphire would just romp away, as the aero pack / transmission losses of the Escort have a huge effect on acceleration once three figures have been reached. A 500bhp Sapphire was also MUCH more fun, BUT (and it's a biggy), it was a hooligan's car and it MADE you drive it like a twat and I would imagine if I still had mine, I would have a) been locked up or b) been banned or c) crashed it - oh yeah, I already did that .

However, the Escort is faster point to point (traction), faster on track (traction / braking) and it just feels nicer / more modern to drive (no surprises there).

I would love a Sapphire again, but I know it would bring out the worst in my driving habbits .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I went from a 500bhp Sapphire to a 400bhp Escort. Suffice to say it didn't stay 400bhp for long!

Even though it is now similar power, it is nowhere near as fast as the Sapphire and from 100mph the Sapphire would just romp away, as the aero pack / transmission losses of the Escort have a huge effect on acceleration once three figures have been reached. A 500bhp Sapphire was also MUCH more fun, BUT (and it's a biggy), it was a hooligan's car and it MADE you drive it like a twat and I would imagine if I still had mine, I would have a) been locked up or b) been banned or c) crashed it - oh yeah, I already did that .

However, the Escort is faster point to point (traction), faster on track (traction / braking) and it just feels nicer / more modern to drive (no surprises there).

I would love a Sapphire again, but I know it would bring out the worst in my driving habbits .

And it looks a thousand time's better than a shonky taxi!!
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kinda got me wanting rwd now

think mine would look good smoking its rear tyres out of the corners. i wont track it anyway so doesnt matter.i'd rather it pulled through top end better
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anyone know whats needed and how much to do rwd in an escy?
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I will be keeping from my 3dr

subframe, steering rack, T5, Diff, driveshafts, shocks, hubs, brakes, sump Dan has pointed out that you need the diff hangar, engine arms and 2wd modine and bolt, gearbox mount as well all peanuts really

I am just gonna keep these bits from my 3dr and worst case scenario is i'll just 4x4 it again if i dont like it i guess

Its all bolt on so not that bad, just wonder what the straight line stability/speed will be like with the wrc kit compared to a 3dr with a 500 kit
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If you want a gearbox mount that bolts a T5 into a 4x4 chassis drop me a PM, i bought a couple from ford and have a spare, saves making your own mount up
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
I am SERIOUSLY thinking of RWDing one as Dan will know

best of both worlds?
What, the heavy weight of an escos, with the low grip of a 3 door?
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Such a pessimist chip. Removing the 4x4 gear will get rid of a lot of wieght, and the shell is a lot stiffer so should be nicer to drive. I came very close to RWD'ing mine, but didn't want to loose the value in the car. I have spent £5k in transmission instead ... We will see, still might rear drive it if I get bored.
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i have both, prefer to take saff out as its more of a holligan as mike said
Old 30-10-2008, 10:26 PM
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ive just changed from a saph to a escort i know what you mean!! im starting to miss scarying the living daylights out of anyone who got it too my saph! the escorts abit of a fast mondeo!! I'm not going to let my self even look at the 2wd parts, cos when you do it too late!!! ££££ spent again and out comes the axle stands!!

If i do get pissed off with it i will sell it for a rs500 or a tvr,
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...........TVR is very close on my list too, its just that I "know" cossies

not looking too good for the humble escos i must admit


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