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Old 03-11-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Which turbo fits on small turbo exhaust manifold?

Hi Everyone!

Does anyone know what sort of turbo's will fit on the std small turbo T25 exhaust manifold?

Will a Saff 4x4 Garret T03 turbo fit? Or do you have to change the exhaust manifold?

Thanks
Old 03-11-2007, 06:37 PM
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small turbo exhaust manifold is the same as on the large turbo.

so you can fit the 4x4 saph T3 with no issues.
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Originally Posted by Kelv
small turbo exhaust manifold is the same as on the large turbo.

so you can fit the 4x4 saph T3 with no issues.
Kelv,
Will a T34 fit ? That will save some agro as I want to do the MSD 350 bhp conversion.
Cheers.
Old 03-11-2007, 06:46 PM
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Chris, it will fit mate.

same manifold as what comes on the big turbo cars - which comes with the T34
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you have to run different management though dont you?
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Good point Neil

Originally Posted by ECOS95
Originally Posted by Kelv
small turbo exhaust manifold is the same as on the large turbo.

so you can fit the 4x4 saph T3 with no issues.
Kelv,
Will a T34 fit ? That will save some agro as I want to do the MSD 350 bhp conversion.
Cheers.
Chris. what else comes in Stu's 350bhp conversion?
Old 03-11-2007, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Good point Neil

Originally Posted by ECOS95
Originally Posted by Kelv
small turbo exhaust manifold is the same as on the large turbo.

so you can fit the 4x4 saph T3 with no issues.
Kelv,
Will a T34 fit ? That will save some agro as I want to do the MSD 350 bhp conversion.
Cheers.
Chris. what else comes in Stu's 350bhp conversion?
Injectors, Turbo T34.48, Chip, Actuator, uprated pump, plugs.
Old 03-11-2007, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullett
you have to run different management though dont you?
Not if you go with the MSD conversion.
Old 03-11-2007, 07:57 PM
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yours is a big turbo tho isnt it?

i cant remember, just remember it looking nice sat on your drive
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Chris, it will fit mate.

same manifold as what comes on the big turbo cars - which comes with the T34
I'm sure they're different Kelv The stud pcd is the same but I think the aperature in the middle is slightly smaller-may be wrong though!!
Old 03-11-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelv
yours is a big turbo tho isnt it?

i cant remember, just remember it looking nice sat on your drive
st Looks good on the Comps, just needs more power.
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robbieg, ive always been led to believe they are the same.

if im wrong then ill go and sit in the corner quietly
Old 03-11-2007, 09:30 PM
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I hope you're right Kelv,as I'm changing the turbo on my car(ST) and it'll save me a few quid if you are.Hoping someone reading this thread can clear this up?!?
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sorry but small t is a lot smaller ill try and find some pics
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big t
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small t , hows that for service?
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so purely the hole from which the turbo recieves the used gasses!

all i can say is - ive learnt something there then!!
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yep, its the size of the hole that counts if you have a big one then you need a big hole
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Originally Posted by THE RADMAN
yep, its the size of the hole that counts
oooo eerrrr


whats a 4x4 exhaust manifold worth then, wouldnt have thought that expensive!

the BT one i mean.
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normally £40-50 including the cracks
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Hmmmm, 2 people after them and i have 2 spares sat in the workshop!!!
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i think you will be receiving some pms if you have an uncracked one ill do you a deal?
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unfortunatly they both have small cracks in the usual place within the internal webbing!
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Originally Posted by THE RADMAN
yep, its the size of the hole that counts if you have a big one then you need a big hole
its never good trying to fit something big into something small

i love this room.its so imformative.just a shame i aint got a clue what to do with the gained knowledge
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Neil, maybe you could put the gained knowledge on little greetings to go inside christmas crackers.

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good one
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Neil, maybe you could put the gained knowledge on little greetings to go inside christmas crackers.


sorry i'll get my coat then.













have fun without me.
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To be Honest if you are going to Change from a ST Manifold to BT you may aswell change straight to a 2wd one at least then you got more scope for power, more top end, Torque and a better flowig exhaust manifold in the first place save having a ST getting a BT then getting a 2wd one when you want yet more power ive got a BT one that im not using btw
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Ben, yes and no mate.

for those wishing to change to a T34 on there ST cars going the 2wd manifold is a fair bit more work, ie having the exhaust altered to fit aswell.

were as changing to the 4x4 manifold is all bolt on stuff that can be done on a driveway, and for wanting 350bhp ish going the 2wd manifold is a bit of overkill, and to be honest - the 4x4 manifold is still plenty good enough for figures up to 450bhp.
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I bolted my 2WD manifold on with no other mods Kelv
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talented then mate.
as the turbo sits about 1.5" higher, so ideally you need to extend your downpipe to suit!!
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Ben, yes and no mate.

for those wishing to change to a T34 on there ST cars going the 2wd manifold is a fair bit more work, ie having the exhaust altered to fit aswell.

were as changing to the 4x4 manifold is all bolt on stuff that can be done on a driveway, and for wanting 350bhp ish going the 2wd manifold is a bit of overkill, and to be honest - the 4x4 manifold is still plenty good enough for figures up to 450bhp.
I'm looking to keep mine looking stock upder the bonnet so the BT one will be just the ticket. 350 BHP should also keep the transmisson in one piece hopefully.
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i think that will be your best bet mate, going by the pics that Nick has posted - you will never know its a different manifold on there anyhoo
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U got that rear beam on yet ??
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Thanks for confirming my thoughts RADMAN,now who wants to sell me their BT exhaust manifold??
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Robbie, i have 2 mate, was hoping to have got to the workshop today to get some pics of them both to show conditions but had no chance.

As said to Nick, ill pop a picture over as soon as ive had chance to take some and go from there - will be tomorrow morning/lunchtime.



Chris, no chance today mate, been out picking up goodies for the house and the misses - how the hell shes managed to spend £1200 on pictures is beyond me

but its all ready to be lifted into place tomorrow lunchtime
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Originally Posted by Kelv

Chris, no chance today mate, been out picking up goodies for the house and the misses - how the hell shes managed to spend £1200 on pictures is beyond me

but its all ready to be lifted into place tomorrow lunchtime
Your not alone mate, mine just got through £600 on just one picture. & its stuck on the lounge wall.

The beam will be next on my list, in the distant future.
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Originally Posted by Kelv
talented then mate.
as the turbo sits about 1.5" higher, so ideally you need to extend your downpipe to suit!!
Why thank you
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When you having the conversion ECO95? Has Stu released it yet? You will need the big turbo water pipes as well, as the T25 ones don't fit anything else than the T25 . I used a 2wd top return pipe and a normal 4x4 bottom feed pipe
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Does a Saff T03 Turbo also NOT fit on the small turbo exhaust manifold??


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