jbrayley

No, magnesium alloys are very strong in the sense that they will never crack from taking an impact from (for instance) a pot hole, but they are very weak at side imapcts. If you hit a curb from the side they will most probably crack. probably not that many kerbs on rally stages.........

jbrayley

Can anyone photoshop them onto a cossie. I mean they look awesome on a wrc car but waht woudl they look like on a standard (for want of a better word) Escort Cosworth?

Out of interest would anyone like to go halves on a set of 12 of these 18" mag alloys? How much would these be each with 40% off mike

Mike Rainbird

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The 17s are £528 each, so no idea . I'm looking at the Chrono's at the moment and am waiting for the Italian's to respond, stop moving the goal-posts .

ESCYSCOTT

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I'd be up for a set of 19" chrono's but dunno about them in white on a mallard green escos..........think they'd have to be silver for me.

jbrayley

Lats time I looked the 18's were 500 each in the 2021 HTC mike Remember I was trying to get you to buy some with me hehe

jbrayley

Mine is mallard, they would look TONS better in white mate. My white compomotives look the dogs bollocks in white

ESCYSCOTT

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dunno mate, my car is a bufty machine

White wheels will be harder to keep clean inside with the dust that comes off my brakes

Have you got any pics of yours on the comps?

jbrayley

Im afraid my car is with Danny at adrenaline, so havent got any pics at present. ill have to get him to take some pics

I am sure if you wax your wheels regularly you wont have much of a prob getting the dirt off

jbrayley

A few places online I have seen 8x18 forabout 540 inc vat. If I order a set of 12 (I think I know someone who will have 6 ) can you ask about a price?

lowman

by the way..they are not chronos..they are corse!hehe

THE RADMAN

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cant agree with you there im afraid, ask paul r or me about cracks the centre locks look

jbrayley

I was just trying to point out that they are very strong in one sense but very weak in another. If people on here want them for road cars they need to be aware that they will prob need some spares and they are prone to cracking and damage PRIMARILY from side impacts but as you point out can crack through other factors

THE RADMAN

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yep, id never run mags without a spare one,especially on our sh*t old roads

Damo V

I dont want a set but just to point out surely colour choice isnt a mojor problem at this stage... just get them repainted...

cozzfather

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theres loads of kerbs about when you go rallying mate
maybe not so many on single venue such as a airfield

Rippers

From the research I did.. Magnesium wheels suffer when they lose the paint/coating and become weathered and/or if the wheel has been tampered with.. as with age they go brittle.. so whilst these wheels where ok over ten years ago they have aged and been refurbed, welded, scraped, dinged etc and generally had a hard life through motorsport. A proper WRC wheel will have a FIA date stamp so the wheel only had to last ex-amount of time before being binned. I was told by a mag wheel repairer that the early mag wheels where banned from motorsport due to constant cracking. Was also told by someone at M-Sport that some had foam inside incase of loosing air on stage.. denoted by a silver circle sticker.. which some of my ex M-sport OZ mags had.

I would never buy older mag wheels again unless they where either new or unrefurbished in very good condition. and unless you have a race/rally team budget to be able to replace the wheels instead of repairing them its a bit risky. Hence why I have 9 OZ mags now

Mag wheels barely bend as they are so strong so if hit hard enough they with crack instead.. Anyone remember the pics of damaged superleggas rarely bent but loads of pics of cracks and snapped spokes etc The weakest point seems to be inner outer rim where cracks apear.

Speedlines seem to be the best mag wheels these days just don't like the styles in 18" and wouldn't fit 19's

jbrayley

I guess thats why they have about 12 spares with them

When i said not many Kerbs I meant in comparison to what a road going car will experience. And if you look at all the people interested in aquiring a set on this thread, they are primarily ROAD GOING cosworths. Not sure if many of them will see an airfield either, so not sure on your point there.
My point is they are not that strong when introduced sideways into a kerb...........and people with ROAD going cars will need to appreciate the need for spares as a kerbed alloy wheel is far more serviceable than a cracked magnesium one

cozzfather

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old Tarmac rally wheels will almost certainly have been subject
to a hard life,bear this in mind if buying seconhand
i would not pay the extra for new magnesio speedlines
when the light alloy ones will do fine,and would not want repaired
rally wheels on a high performance car like my escort cosworth.


edited to add........

yep most people on here with escort cosworths do not go tarmac
rallying with them,hence why i can't see the point of buying magnesio versions when light alloy would do,unless you have loads of money to
spend or are following the leader

cozzfather

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thought the corse was part of Speedlines company name

http://www.speedlinecorse.co.uk/

the wheels i have had were speedline chrono

rog

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You mean this one???

Don't worry it's been fixed.

Gary F

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fucking hell

Mike Rainbird

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I chased Speedline UK again today, but still no news from the Eyetalians . They're going to poke them in the ribs and see what happens, but "think" that it may be a non-starter, by the lack of instant response.

The Magnesium 2021 type posted up by JBrayley above IS definitely available though... . Minumum order of twelve - £2000 per set of four delivered 8x18 ET15.

Gatecrasher

Dont like them enough to spend £2000 on them

Still intrested in the Chronos if you ever get a responce

jbrayley

Oooohh getting me tempted now Mike I dont want to go to 19" as I think it will ruin the handling of my car

I a guessing they will fit over my 378mm discs Mike....................... What happened with the ohlins after?

Mike Rainbird

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They should do, as these are what are on a lot of the Grp A cars with the Brembos in that size .

Spring rates are 60 N/mm. The kit doesn't have a part number, as it was custom made by Ohlins for the Escort. As you rightly say, Ohlins don't do an off the shelf kit, but if you have the right contacts, they will custom make the bodies to suit what-ever application you want.

I would advise that you can't compare their spring rates or damper settings with any other manufacturers, as they rate them differently to others. I am being told that these are very good for the road on the lower settings, with a huge damping range in reserve for track. The Swedish Escort that finished fourth in the Gumball (that is also on the PF DVD) is fitted with the exact same set-up......

jbrayley

Can you keep them on hold for me for a few days please mike

OUNPOWERHOUSE

Stop tempting me buddy we are already spent out

jbrayley

I know, Danny is going to hate me haha. Those speedlines do look nice though..............lol

OUNPOWERHOUSE

Remember Wheels are on the bottom of the list ,stick to the plan as Danny says

Gatecrasher

Would still love a set if these any chance there doing a 50% Xmas special?

Gary F

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I'd to still love a set, even at 2k