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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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this was posted up on corsasport the other day









all was going fine till the owner posted this

y the fuk would i wanna take the dump valve of ave never heard so much bollocks in me life. i aint takin shit of this car its get to 140 quick enough for me
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Originally posted by corsaflip
well mate i would take u out into to prove it but i dont no ya. its been all stage 1 chiped n otherstuff. and the boost is switchable between 11psi and 19psi. i am not liein it does 140 ask corsa_carl he was inti when i done it
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but this car aint standard and runs 11psi or with the swich changes to 19psi its not standard as all of you seem to think. i need to prove this to you. its got over 150 bhp on it now.

now it may suprise you but there is a few big ford enthusiats on there, and there thoughts were the same as mine, which is there is no chance that 19psi could run on a standard intercooler for any lenght of time

also the fact the fords speedos are allways well out, and the fact 150bhp wouldnt be enough to get anywhere near 140mph

he posted this

Originally posted by corsaflip
ere m8 u post it up u ask them n also put the plate of the car in n ask whos it was see what he has to say.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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doh

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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have a look at gearbox mans site,
there is a spreadsheet on there to tell the knob-jocky exactly how
fast the car is going at what revs.

150 is abotu 7k on RST with standard wheels int it?

cant imagine it would rev to that/
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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will have a look
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But the lad doesn't say it does 150mph, he said it does 140mph, which on an ERST you can get an indicated 140mph on the clock....

Anyway, if it has been chipped and runs 11psi, and has other stuff like exhaust, filter and the like - usual mods - it is entirely feasible that it DOES have 150bhp or over...

No whether you can run 19psi on a standard turbo and intercooler, thats a different story....
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You can run 19psi on a standard cooler and turbo....you can run 30psi if you want. Just don't expect it to last long!!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
But the lad doesn't say it does 150mph, he said it does 140mph, which on an ERST you can get an indicated 140mph on the clock....

Anyway, if it has been chipped and runs 11psi, and has other stuff like exhaust, filter and the like - usual mods - it is entirely feasible that it DOES have 150bhp or over...

No whether you can run 19psi on a standard turbo and intercooler, thats a different story....
yep, i tottally agree an indiated 140 is possible, but he thinks thats actully 140mhp, and agree that the mods can take it to 150bhp

what i doubt is that power can actully take it to an gps verified 140+mph
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John Laverick
You can run 19psi on a standard cooler and turbo....you can run 30psi if you want. Just don't expect it to last long!!
true
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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nothing stopping him running 19psi occasionally,sure its not good for the engine or turbo,but i bet it will physically do it!
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But the lad doesn't say it does 150mph, he said it does 140mph, which on an ERST you can get an indicated 140mph on the clock....

Anyway, if it has been chipped and runs 11psi, and has other stuff like exhaust, filter and the like - usual mods - it is entirely feasible that it DOES have 150bhp or over...

No whether you can run 19psi on a standard turbo and intercooler, thats a different story....
yep, i tottally agree an indiated 140 is possible, but he thinks thats actully 140mhp, and agree that the mods can take it to 150bhp

what i doubt is that power can actully take it to an gps verified 140+mph
But why are you bringing in "GPS verified 140mph" - no one here is saying anything, including the owner, about "GPS verified" are they? So what if he belives it? Have you NEVER belived speeds you have seen on your speedo?

99% of us can ONLY quote speedo indicated speeds as 99% of use don't have access to GPS/Daytron/etc timing gear......
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gps verified?bloody hell,i just got sat nav and found that speedo readings above about 60mph are very wrong indeed!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Personally i think he's a little dim boasting about doing 140mph on a public forum with his plate on show...

"No officer, i don't remember admitting to a public audience i was street racing and doing double the speed limit"
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Originally Posted by Thrush
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But the lad doesn't say it does 150mph, he said it does 140mph, which on an ERST you can get an indicated 140mph on the clock....

Anyway, if it has been chipped and runs 11psi, and has other stuff like exhaust, filter and the like - usual mods - it is entirely feasible that it DOES have 150bhp or over...

No whether you can run 19psi on a standard turbo and intercooler, thats a different story....
yep, i tottally agree an indiated 140 is possible, but he thinks thats actully 140mhp, and agree that the mods can take it to 150bhp

what i doubt is that power can actully take it to an gps verified 140+mph
But why are you bringing in "GPS verified 140mph" - no one here is saying anything, including the owner, about "GPS verified" are they? So what if he belives it? Have you NEVER belived speeds you have seen on your speedo?

99% of us can ONLY quote speedo indicated speeds as 99% of use don't have access to GPS/Daytron/etc timing gear......
yeah sorry, thats was over the top

just was annoyed that people wont take into account speedo inacurracys when claiming there top speed
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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The lad says his car gets to 140(to me that means he is saying the needle go's round to 140) not my car can actualy do 140mph.

On the boost question I recall a load of RS Turbos running 1.5bar peak 10years back.

Larger capacity IC's were'nt as common knowledge back then especialy if you werent going to the right tuner, so it is possible to run that kind of boost on a standard IC.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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so basically jr your saying that if he had worded it different ie my car has done an indicated 140mph and not saying my car can do 140 you`d be happy
some of you are unreal , i say fair play to the boy for seeing 140 on his speedo who gives a fuck what it really was 130???
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Originally Posted by Big Will 85
Personally i think he's a little dim boasting about doing 140mph on a public forum with his plate on show...

"No officer, i don't remember admitting to a public audience i was street racing and doing double the speed limit"
Ahh, but thats only hearsay Nothing can happen to a guy who says "I was doing 195mph past an infant school yesterday - here's pics of my car with the pate number" in the same way that loads of rockstars can't get done for saying in interviews and on TV about how many drugs they have taken etc....

Without proof, words are nothing
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so basically jr your saying that if he had worded it different ie my car has done an indicated 140mph and not saying my car can do 140 you`d be happy
some of you are unreal , i say fair play to the boy for seeing 140 on his speedo who gives a fuck what it really was 130???
Exaclty - I saw 140 on the speedo of my S1(s) loads of times, and whilst I knew it weren't a REAL 140, I still said it was in the pub
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Originally Posted by jr
Originally Posted by John Laverick
You can run 19psi on a standard cooler and turbo....you can run 30psi if you want. Just don't expect it to last long!!
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Sort of.... the turbos longevity is debatable but if the engine is good then 30psi will be fine.

The prob is the std cooler- thats no good, anything more than about 13psi and it will retard the ignition all the time and go slow.

At 11 psi its pretty much at its limit to run without retarding the ignition which on the RST is down to ACTs. I think its somet like 62'c it retards but dont quote me.

A good set up car with 11psi on std cooler will see 155-165 bhp also this is plenty to pull to 125mph very quickly and will pull off the clock in a short space of time which is an indicated 140 as people know and also it will do this at approx 5700 rpm.

I had 2 years of an RST like this and had it set up more or less everytime I was at Karls LOL.


Hope that helps.

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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i reply to the saint, how am i unreal

i dont know the ins and the outs of what can be done on a standard cooler and turbo, i thought 19psi seemed far to much

and 150bhp would'nt be enough to pust it to 140mph and more

he doubted what people told him, and asked for it to be put on a ford forum, which ive done
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jake cheers mate
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Originally Posted by the saint
so basically jr your saying that if he had worded it different ie my car has done an indicated 140mph and not saying my car can do 140 you`d be happy
some of you are unreal , i say fair play to the boy for seeing 140 on his speedo who gives a fuck what it really was 130???
no this was just one of the points i enquired about, i didnt see it as logical, and IMO 150bhp would not be enough to get near that quoted figure when the owner posts

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but we had 140mph no problem and could have gone alot faster

the guy he bought it off is on the rs owners club . . . talk to him about it as he will know alot more
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Originally Posted by jr
Originally Posted by the saint
so basically jr your saying that if he had worded it different ie my car has done an indicated 140mph and not saying my car can do 140 you`d be happy
some of you are unreal , i say fair play to the boy for seeing 140 on his speedo who gives a fuck what it really was 130???
no this was just one of the points i enquired about, i didnt see it as logical, and IMO 150bhp would not be enough to get near that quoted figure when the owner posts

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but we had 140mph no problem and could have gone alot faster

the guy he bought it off is on the rs owners club . . . talk to him about it as he will know alot more
My first S1 had exhaust, filter, actuator and ran at 10psi - I had that showing 140mph on the clock... Now I am not saying it was DOING 140mph, but neither is this lad - we are talking about speedo indicated speed....
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