Its Killed an RS Turbo AP Paddle pretty quick

Anyone have any experiance with the Alcon ??
we've only fit em in cossies......


Cheers
Rob

 

Well mines not going to last long then

Didn't Soy run an Ap and get on ok with it?

 

AP Racing have just done an organic clutch friction plate with a paddle clutch pressure plate for my mates 400+bph zetec turbo - cost just over £400 as i remember - PM Guzzler (Matt) at Power Engineering as he was involved in arranging it

P.S - The car drives beautifully with it in - so much better than a paddle!

 

The best clutch in the std configuration is an AP 3560-2 cover with AP 4 paddle 5354-15 plate. Avoid the Alcon, its not up to more than 250bhp.

The above AP will cope with 350bhp but no more.

After 350bhp you will need a suitably rated 7 1/4 twin plate clutch, with suitable flywheel and hydraulic slave cylinder.

 

There is only 1 option a twin plate set up, anything else will be a waste of time.

Mark

 

Cheers for the replies

Mark / Karl

Any recomendations on a twin plate set up to use ???

Cheers
Rob

 

Not sure who does the correct input shaft size but I would call AP and others, The likelyhood you will need to do the development work yourself.

Mark

 

I would also recomend a diff gearbox as its life will be in hours whatever you do with a B5.

Mark

 

Cheers Mark......

 

I would definitely NOT recommend an Alcon clutch as well - only did 2k with mine and the plate is down to just above the rivets (as I have split the car). The engine was only pushing out c. 240bhp and perhaps slightly higher lb.ft figure as well! Not impressed!

As said a twin-plate is really the way to go for that kind of power - I know that Sunny has spent alot of time mucking about with it all, not sure whether he's still using a Stage 2+ Bernie BC box or not though!

Cheers,

Andy

 

With regard to the twin plate setup I recommend only using the organic linings for your application. Avoid cerametalic and sintered plates for your application Rob.

As Mark has mentioned you will need to do some R&D to get this spot on for your application. I am in the process of developing a twin plate 7 1/4 kit at a competitive price for FWD applications but sadly the R&D is not finished so I can't offer the kit to you at the moment.

I also agree with Mark that the B5 simply cannot cope beyond 350bhp. Oli's cvh powered car is now at 350bhp and the gearbox last a VERY limited amount of time!

 

Thanks Karl...

Let me know when your kit is available

 

Helix twin plate clutch appear to be well upto the job.

 

The Alcon seems to be coping fine in mine, although its not 400bhp.

 

Hi C, no but a little birdy tells me its 60 bhp down!

 

Tell gadget to clean the engine bay Rob, its a disgrace!!

I would love to go out in this car one day, the figures at low boost are just mind boggling

 

I guess Saturday will reveal all hey


Mike

 

Rob,

Check with 'turboboss' off this site and Fiestaturbo.com. He has a twin plate...though I'm not sure what it is manufac-wise.

Dave

 

60bhp down??

WTF?

Mine is miles nowhere near 400bhp, perhaps not even 300bhp, but I was more referring to the remarks about the Alcon not being able to handle 250bhp. I know mine is at least that.

 

ive got a Helix organic jobbie, ok its a 2wd cosworth one and im having a 1 off flywheel made, but still...

lol