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That much horse power on a T3 - Dont think so

 

Must be the same one thats on the T16 powered 205 on other threads on this forum, he thinks it does 400+ too

"Its no ordinary T3, it cost 4000pounds you idiot!"

 

Mine should be 450 hp on a genuine T4 but I mapped it myself so its more like 700 hp

 

how can you comment on a car you know very little about ??? i have been in it and i know it would kill ANY 400bhp cossie. I haven't seen the RR graph yet but don't be so blinkered that you think you know everything about every car.

 

How bizzare....

Such a small turbo on a cosworth making so much power.....????????

 

Im NOT fucking blinkered, im just not fucking BLIND

The car has a fucking T3 compressor housing on it, can see it with your own eyes.

Find me any bloody compressor wheel that will fit inside a T3 compressor housing that will give 400bhp.

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T16s are awesome engines, but not magic.

(Suprised the standard chargecooler can hack that, not to mention the breather consiting of the standard oil filler cap with a lil K+N breather on it too, but thats a different story)

 

your correct about the breather at least, it's not up to the job by a long way.

 

489PS is less than 489 Hp but not enough to account for the difference

 

The Compressor on the Turbo is far more of an issue than that breather tho.

 

489 PS = 482.30 BHP

 

Steven, agree with you on that turbo at a glance, but then again did you see the size of the little turbos doing 1500bhp in F1 :O

 

i have to admit i don't know much about the vat25's. i know how they work but not much about the benefits. at 2.2bar it sure does give a good kick though.

i myself am unsure to fully believe the figure of 400+ , but after being in it then i don't really care for the figure, cos it's awesome

i will see the graphs soon and maybe post them up

 

the turbo's which where used in F1 are really much bigger then a t3...
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LoL @ this thread.

 

absolutely insane to think of those little wheels managing to flow 750bhp each!

 

chip you got PM

 

At about a million psi boost tho, not 1.9bar or whatever the 205 runs

 

different fuel too

 

Ie not got a fucking huge oxygen content so more power no matter what

 

2.2 bar, 32 psi however you look at it. doesn't sound that far fetched?

 

Yes it does

Its a T3 compressor, not even half the size of the F1 turbos. F1 cars ran well over twice the boost this 205 runs.

F1 cars also ran hugely oxygenated fuel which ups the power massivley regardless of turbo size.

Find me any T3 compressor that can get 400bhp without nitrous no matter what the boost. Actually i doubt youl find one with 350bhp

 

SteveN, agree with you totally on all those points.

Wasnt saying the F1 turbos meant this was possible on normal fuel from the turbo in the picture, i dont believe its over 350 either TBH

Nice car though

 

Kill a 400bhp Cossie at what??? Doubt it would have traction enough to kill a proper Escort with decent transmission off the line!

It may be quicker 80-120mph than a big fat old saff that has '400bhp' on 4 greens and a T3 though

 

not all races are from standing start but i know this car has done a 12.2 qtr ( with less power than it has now i believe )

i was talking road cars and i know it would beat my saff no problem ( around 370bhp) i also know he left an fq400 for dead.

as for 80-120, it would beat a big fat old saff yes, and an escort, and a sierra ( even if they were genuine 400bhp) it has masses of low down pull,even in 6th gear it's awesome ( probably due to the vat turbo )

just for the record i do not have any proof of the claimed power, and i have to admit i too don't fully believe it is THAT powerful, but when i'm shown a dyno report then i won't be as shocked as some of you.

maybe i'll get him to come to the next passionford midlands meet, and he can take people out

 

I think its a WICKED car, totally love it. Would love to see it as well. I'm a massive 205 fan.

Its a BULLSHIT power fug though in my opinion thats all.

And I was just playing with you about your 'killing' thing I bet its awesome once its got traction

 

and a vat turbo which used ones isnt that a vat t25 turbo...

 

whats that mean in english?

it having a VGT turbine aint gonna make any difference to the power anyhow, the T3 compressor is plain to see

 

i mean the variable turbo which was used...didnt know if it was vat or vgt in english..

 

either can be used, but i still dont understand what you said

 

is the variable turbo which is used...isnt that a t25 turbo...

 

i know mate he's seriously thinking about bringing it to next pf meet, also he's got a date with fifth gear on the 22nd? to have VBH driving it around Oulton park against a ferrari 430 and summat else

as for the turbo, i know it as a vat 25, which i believe is some variation on a t25?

 

VAT25s are T25s with a variable geometry turbine exhaust side.

That compressor housing is a T3 one, slightly larger than T25 ones.

Either way no way 400, hell, 300 is a big number if it was a T25 compressor.

 

What steveN is getting at here, is that a turbo is in two halves.

The compressor is one half and is the bit that actually determines how much air the turbo can flow and at what pressure.

The exhaust side of it is only there to turn the compressor side of it.
Now a bigger exhaust side can result in lower pumping losses etc to make the engine more effienct in using the boost, but what it cant do is change the compressor map of the other half the of turbo.

No matter what you do on the exhaust side, the T3 compressor (if thats what it is like SteveN says it is) simply will not be able to flow that amount of air without being right off the compressor map in a plcae with ridiculous heat generation properties that make it LESS powerful.



HTH