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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Voltage directly at the altenator is 13.5v


filtering through the car to battery.. then to ecu shows 13.3 - 13.4 volts


Im assuming the car could do with a new altenator?

best one to go for.. std esc cos 70 amp?

wouldnt mind a few extra ... id like to hold 14 volts in the car


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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Dave, why are you not using the 90 amp Ford alternator?

If you want a better alternator then check out a Brise item, but be prepared to get your wallet out!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Dave, why are you not using the 90 amp Ford alternator?

If you want a better alternator then check out a Brise item, but be prepared to get your wallet out!

Its a 90 amp one then Karl.. it hasnt been changed since factory



how do altenators die? do they just tend to burn out after a while?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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You can usually have them overhauled Dave....Voltage Reg Changed...bearings check etc....by a decent auto-electrical place...we use Leyland Autos' up here but i'm not sure down south......the standard 4 x 4 cos item as Karl says is 90A....I have a good spare on the shelf if you need 1.....
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Sometimes its just the voltage regulator that dies in them - the bushes in them wear out - its the easiest thing to change first & you can do it with the alternator still on the car. Take out the voltage reg & have a look at the bushes to see how worn they are!!! HTH!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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cheers guys, that helps a lot.

Ian, ill try to get mine overhauled... if its pony, ill give you a shout
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Loads of reasons to have alternator problems, worn bearings, worn brushes, faulty diode pack etc. In addition I recommend you rewire the alternator to battery wiring and generally make sure the entire vehicle wiring is perfect.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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thanks
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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13.4v sounds fine on a fully charged battery!

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
13.4v sounds fine on a fully charged battery!

Alex
not when im used to seeing 13.9 to 14
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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You can also change the regulator to charge more than standard.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
You can also change the regulator to charge more than standard.
any details my welsh friend have you done this?
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You can change the regulator to UP the output voltage, but not much else!

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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
You can also change the regulator to charge more than standard.
any details my welsh friend have you done this?
Yes mate i have loads of details thanks. And yes i have done this and i charge at over 14v at most times.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
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You can also change the regulator to charge more than standard.
any details my welsh friend have you done this?
Yes mate i have loads of details thanks. And yes i have done this and i charge at over 14v at most times.

come on!! spill the beans!!!!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Maybe a group buy coming up.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
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You can also change the regulator to charge more than standard.
any details my welsh friend have you done this?
Yes mate i have loads of details thanks. And yes i have done this and i charge at over 14v at most times.

well pls share the knowledge then! [/b]
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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doesnt that cook things?

on my old XR3i the voltage reg packed up and basically it had unlimited voltage (higher the RPM, higher the voltage)

i cooked my stereo, about 15 headlight bulbs, and 2 car batteries with it like this. the car constantly smelt of rotten eggs (sulphur?) and it turned out to be the battery stinking as it cooked itself!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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I had this on one of my 21turbo's - cooked the ECU into the bargain!!!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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The part you need is a CARGO 133993 reg that charges at 14.8v available at most good electrical outlets or me for £25 delivered.

I have done 3 of these and had no problems with cooked ecu's etc.

I would also change wiring from alternator to battery and all earth's off battery ie battery - to body battery - to engine.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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is it a direct remove and fit to the altenator?

http://eretric.com/view_product.php?product=IB356



if you have one.. Stretch, pls go and take a pic of your secs monitor.. showing your batt voltage on idle
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Dave SECS monitor will read 0.5V lower than at battery
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Dave SECS monitor will read 0.5V lower than at battery

no it DOESNT!


(for the 1000th time )
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
is it a direct remove and fit to the altenator?

http://eretric.com/view_product.php?product=IB356



if you have one.. Stretch, pls go and take a pic of your secs monitor.. showing your batt voltage on idle
Can be changed with alternator on car. Would love to dave but car at bodyshop.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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cool, can you get one to me mate?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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How soon you want it david.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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asapeeeeeeeea



and it deffo fits an escos alt! ?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Right will check to see if any in stock and double check fitment but it only 2 screws and pretty sure all cossies alt's are the same.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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ok mate, pm me your details and ill send you the £

chop chop welshy
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Dave, you will probally call me a coont but I will give my opinion anyway
What is wrong with 13.4 volts at the ecu - Nothing IMO.

I agree if you had more than that previously then there may be
an alternator issue.




All ecus (even pectel ) correct the injector time based on
battery voltage. 13.0 to 13.5 is the nominal volatge used as an industry
standard in voltage correction software in nearly every ecu ever made.

More voltage makes the injectors deliver more fuel slightly (to a limit)
and less voltage reduces the fueling but the software adjusts for this
automatically (to a point if set up correctly) so teh AFR should be correct
all of the time at all battery voltages.


BUT too much voltage will kill/reduce the life of the electronics
in the car (stereos/ecu bulbs etc).

Sort the wiring first then check the alternator..


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