Please look at the pics below and tell me which of the 2 springs is for the rear and which for the front?
Cheers Spadge...

 

Spadge from the pics I think the red one is the front and the black is the rear as I am sure the back does not have a pigtail lke the front ones!

Nick

 

would have said the long ones were the fronts,
and i thought you had progressive one on the front which the red ones are.

but the black ones look very very long, they look like fronts aswell

 

I would think that the fronts would be the thicker coils, not necessarily the longer ones.

So, I'd say that the black one is the front and the red one is the rear.

 

please clean them!!!

 

Black ones are rear ... surely!

 

Thats what I think as well mate!

 

Ok take a look at the following pic of a front and rear Koni -30 escos spring and tell me which is front and which is rear???

 

The left one i the front spring!

 

as above left is the front

 

Right = front

 

Well this is all very fookin confusing

When i started to sort my suspension out the front was too low so i removed the springs pictured below!



These are quite short and skiny and have the pig tail!

I then replaced them with the left hand one of the Koni's in the pic below that actually said front on it! These are Escos -30 springs!



When these were on the car sat higher than a standard 3 door at the front so i assumed this was because the sierra is lighter than the escos!



So today i removed the front ones and replaced them with standard height 4x4 saph ones which i assumed were the ones pictured here on the left?



And here is the result a fookin Dakar rally mobile



What am i doing wrong fellas

 

fook me that is high!

 

Tell me about it Ryan
And my drive looks like the "Zebedee" apreciation society have just dropped by

 

 

Spadge what shokers are you using?

Nick

 

Koni adjustables

 

Have you got your engine in???
Pigtails on the front on my saff mate.

 

is this a quiz , what do i win??

 

Yep the engine was in last time i looked
Pigtails were on the front on the original lowered springs i removed as well but the Koni ones had the shorter springs without pigtails marked-up as the fronts Could they have been marked-up wrong???

Swerv you win a weeks supply of Ryvita

 

APMSL

 

I know I could not fit 4 x 4 springs to my 3 dr before as it sat as yours do in the pics!! as for the springs the ones with the small pigtail on them are defo the fronts, I have AVO coilovers on my car same as yo sold a while ago, but I had to use shorter spings to clear the frontwheels as well, I went to 9" they only cost Ł22 new so you could always do that! or get the grinder out!! I think the escos springs are different as you said!

Nic

 

pmsl

 

they could have been marked wong!

Nick

 

Regarding the first pic, I'm 99% certain that the one on the right is the front.

If they still have visible part numbers, you should see with HA or VA within the part number. VA is Front, HA is Rear!!

 

Nope no sign of part numbers on the Saph ones in the top pic only rust




Guys i need deffo's now as if its wrong the next time i'm stripping the pile of shit

 

get the grinder out mate as you dont do bends anyway

 

I'd bet money on the thicker coils being the fronts

 

....and I so think that the taller pig-tailed spring is the Front.

 

there is a difference in length between 2wd and 4x4 - could this be confusing you somewhere along the line?

 

The purply coloured springs that were originaly on the car are thinner than any of them and are the shortest of all with the Koni Escos springs! The koni's are much thicker steel though hence them not compresing as much If i were to put the red saph ones on which are much longer than the original and a bit thicker i just know its going to be as high as it is now

 

Having changed lots of springs on 4x4's I would take that bet!I bet that you are wrong!! he needs help not confusing conflicting info!!

Nick

 

Correct it will sit higher again! what is wrong with the purple Koni ones?

Nick

 

These are the ones I took off my saph if it helps??

 

The purple springs like i said earlier made it sit too low!

 

The pigtailed ones are always fronts Spadge, Escort WRC is wrong (sorry!)

Make sure they are sitting right in the spring cup as well!

 

Agreed!! definitely!

The spring stiffness results from a combination of wire thickness and number of turns -

If 2 springs are wound from the same thickness wire, the one with less turns on will be stiffer

If 2 springs have the same number of turns but different wire size, the thinner one will be softer

Assumption here is that the coil diameters will be the same, considering they are for the same fitment..

Fitted height is a different issue, and not only related to stiffness, obviously a longer spring of the same stiffness will give more ride height, but a longer, softer spring may not, just depends how much softer..

 

Left = Front.
Right = Rear.

 

Sorry never noticed the too low bit! what have you done now then? you should try that shorter coilover springs!

Nick

 

Stu i thought that until i looked at what was written on the springs and the one on the left has rear written on it and vice versa I can only assume they were marked-up wrong by Koni
Anyway its all sorted now so cheers for all your help



And the nos isn't far behind