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This car is ace. So ace in fact i'd sell me house kids and granny for this car. So after many searches about this car, i thought id do a little dedication post to this cool cool car.
Not of course that i like it you understand
THE SPEC
After four years of development, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4, as it will now be called, is ready for series production. The most exclusive sports car of all time is following in the footsteps of the legendary Bugatti, those universally-coveted limousines and unbeatable racing cars of the 1920s and 1930s which today are among the most sought-after creations from the early days of automobile construction.
This brings to an end the era of design models and concept cars which since the late 1990s have signposted possible paths to the Bugattis of the future. Design and technological concept have finally become reality in the Veyron model’s final form and will be available from the beginning of 2004 as a strictly limited edition of just 300 cars. Technologically futuristic and packed with creative engineering, the first Bugatti of the 21st century has arrived.
Merging the Past and the Future
The Bugatti Veyron 16.4’s home is in Molsheim-Dorlisheim, the French town where, almost 100 years ago, Ettore Bugatti began to realize his lifelong dream of being a car manufacturer.
The new workshop is not just where the engine and vehicle are assembled and tested, it is also the place where customers collect their Bugattis and drive them out onto the streets for the first time.
The aim is to turn Molsheim into an all-round Bugatti centre once again. While up to 70 new vehicles a year are built by hand in the new facility, neighbouring specially-equipped workshops are the scene of expert restoration work on historic Bugatti vehicles. Both past and future have found a new home here.
High Performance
The car’s safety systems have been designed to cope with its extraordinary performance, acceleration and speed. The single-piece carbon fibre monocoque alone scores maximum points in crash tests, while airbags give the driver and passenger additional protection. The high-speed tires designed specially for the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (for vmax. > 350 km/h), sizes 265-68 R 500 A (front) and 365-71 R 540 A (rear), incorporate a further innovative safety feature in the form of the PAX System fitted to the wheels and tires, ensuring safe handling even after sudden pressure loss. Another Bugatti Veyron 16.4 component with a safety element is the rear spoiler. As well as providing the necessary downforce during high-speed travel, it acts as a kind of ‘parachute brake’ during emergency braking. Once precisely-defined deceleration forces are registered the spoiler tilts and the additional air resistance this generates reduces the braking distance to that of a lorry.
The Art of the Machine
The W16 alloy engine developed by Bugatti for the Veyron 16.4 will have a special and absolutely unique place in the history of sports car construction. Its design employs the space-saving VR principle with two particularly slender eight-cylinder blocks arranged at a 90° angle to each other.
1001 horsepower equip the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 with a level of acceleration unheard of in the sports car segment, propelling it from 0 to 60 mph in just three
seconds and past the 200 mph mark in a mere 14 seconds. Thanks to its 923 lb-ft, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4’s enormous propulsive power is not exhausted until it reaches
252.3 mph (406 km/h): the maximum speed for which chassis and drive train have been designed. Any further performance escalation is limited by current design and construction.
Also unique is the power transmission via an innovative directshift gearbox. Without any interruption in the power flow, the sequential seven-speed gearbox transmits the engine’s power to the wheels via permanent four-wheel drive. Put simply, this means uninterrupted acceleration from a standing start to maximum speed: a feeling previously known only to jet pilots.
Exclusive, Classical, Functional
Both exclusive and highly functional, the interior of the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 will transport you to a world of your own. Superb leather, also two-tone if desired, quality metallic trim and beautifully designed and ergonomically laid-out controls characterize the Veyron cockpit.
The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 instruments, with a large central rev counter surrounded by four smaller additional instruments also conjures up memories of the marque’s legendary motor sport past. The deliberate avoidance of superfluous instruments and modern extras are an unmistakable statement of the car’s uncompromising sportiness.
Unchanged on the series version of the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 is the classical two-tone paintwork. The designers have selected five separate colour combinations for the car: Each of the combinations features the bonnet, roof and rear in the darker of the two colours, with the sides and front wheel arches in the lighter colour.
Buggati Factory in Molsheim
On Saturday, 3 September 2005, Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S. hosted opening festivities for the ‘Atelier’ in Molsheim, its new plant dedicated to production of the new Bugatti. At the same time, the company’s headquarters, the Château St. Jean, along with the neighboring buildings, were officially opened for their intended purpose.
THE PICS










THE ENGINE
Type: W16, Quad-Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 488 (7993)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 1001(736) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 923(1250) / 2200-5500
Redline at RPM: n.a.
THE BRAKES
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 245/690 R520 - 335/710 R540 (PAX System)
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
DIMENSIONS
Length × Width × Height in: 174.2 × 77.9 × 47
Weight lb (kg): 4162 (1890)
PERFORMANCE
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: ~ 3
Top Speed mph (km/h): 253 (406)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
THE COST
Base Price: 2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 - Approx. $1,700,000 (last update: 11/1/2005)
Enjoy
Not of course that i like it you understand
THE SPEC
After four years of development, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4, as it will now be called, is ready for series production. The most exclusive sports car of all time is following in the footsteps of the legendary Bugatti, those universally-coveted limousines and unbeatable racing cars of the 1920s and 1930s which today are among the most sought-after creations from the early days of automobile construction.
This brings to an end the era of design models and concept cars which since the late 1990s have signposted possible paths to the Bugattis of the future. Design and technological concept have finally become reality in the Veyron model’s final form and will be available from the beginning of 2004 as a strictly limited edition of just 300 cars. Technologically futuristic and packed with creative engineering, the first Bugatti of the 21st century has arrived.
Merging the Past and the Future
The Bugatti Veyron 16.4’s home is in Molsheim-Dorlisheim, the French town where, almost 100 years ago, Ettore Bugatti began to realize his lifelong dream of being a car manufacturer.
The new workshop is not just where the engine and vehicle are assembled and tested, it is also the place where customers collect their Bugattis and drive them out onto the streets for the first time.
The aim is to turn Molsheim into an all-round Bugatti centre once again. While up to 70 new vehicles a year are built by hand in the new facility, neighbouring specially-equipped workshops are the scene of expert restoration work on historic Bugatti vehicles. Both past and future have found a new home here.
High Performance
The car’s safety systems have been designed to cope with its extraordinary performance, acceleration and speed. The single-piece carbon fibre monocoque alone scores maximum points in crash tests, while airbags give the driver and passenger additional protection. The high-speed tires designed specially for the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (for vmax. > 350 km/h), sizes 265-68 R 500 A (front) and 365-71 R 540 A (rear), incorporate a further innovative safety feature in the form of the PAX System fitted to the wheels and tires, ensuring safe handling even after sudden pressure loss. Another Bugatti Veyron 16.4 component with a safety element is the rear spoiler. As well as providing the necessary downforce during high-speed travel, it acts as a kind of ‘parachute brake’ during emergency braking. Once precisely-defined deceleration forces are registered the spoiler tilts and the additional air resistance this generates reduces the braking distance to that of a lorry.
The Art of the Machine
The W16 alloy engine developed by Bugatti for the Veyron 16.4 will have a special and absolutely unique place in the history of sports car construction. Its design employs the space-saving VR principle with two particularly slender eight-cylinder blocks arranged at a 90° angle to each other.
1001 horsepower equip the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 with a level of acceleration unheard of in the sports car segment, propelling it from 0 to 60 mph in just three
seconds and past the 200 mph mark in a mere 14 seconds. Thanks to its 923 lb-ft, the Bugatti Veyron 16.4’s enormous propulsive power is not exhausted until it reaches
252.3 mph (406 km/h): the maximum speed for which chassis and drive train have been designed. Any further performance escalation is limited by current design and construction.
Also unique is the power transmission via an innovative directshift gearbox. Without any interruption in the power flow, the sequential seven-speed gearbox transmits the engine’s power to the wheels via permanent four-wheel drive. Put simply, this means uninterrupted acceleration from a standing start to maximum speed: a feeling previously known only to jet pilots.
Exclusive, Classical, Functional
Both exclusive and highly functional, the interior of the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 will transport you to a world of your own. Superb leather, also two-tone if desired, quality metallic trim and beautifully designed and ergonomically laid-out controls characterize the Veyron cockpit.
The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 instruments, with a large central rev counter surrounded by four smaller additional instruments also conjures up memories of the marque’s legendary motor sport past. The deliberate avoidance of superfluous instruments and modern extras are an unmistakable statement of the car’s uncompromising sportiness.
Unchanged on the series version of the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 is the classical two-tone paintwork. The designers have selected five separate colour combinations for the car: Each of the combinations features the bonnet, roof and rear in the darker of the two colours, with the sides and front wheel arches in the lighter colour.
Buggati Factory in Molsheim
On Saturday, 3 September 2005, Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S. hosted opening festivities for the ‘Atelier’ in Molsheim, its new plant dedicated to production of the new Bugatti. At the same time, the company’s headquarters, the Château St. Jean, along with the neighboring buildings, were officially opened for their intended purpose.
THE PICS










THE ENGINE
Type: W16, Quad-Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 488 (7993)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 1001(736) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 923(1250) / 2200-5500
Redline at RPM: n.a.
THE BRAKES
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 245/690 R520 - 335/710 R540 (PAX System)
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
DIMENSIONS
Length × Width × Height in: 174.2 × 77.9 × 47
Weight lb (kg): 4162 (1890)
PERFORMANCE
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: ~ 3
Top Speed mph (km/h): 253 (406)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
THE COST
Base Price: 2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 - Approx. $1,700,000 (last update: 11/1/2005)
Enjoy
i think it is ugly and above the realms of any normal person.
i now when your spending that money " having it in the first place" is a waste, because you cant really appreciate it as in to compare with anything else.
its an engeneering master dont get me wrong, and a massive loss to those who built it but it will be bought by useless wankers who will never be able to use it and just look at it as a staus symbol saying i am rich enough but dont know what to do with it
and lets face what would anybody
otherwise well done to who built it wow what an ugly awesome bit of kit
i now when your spending that money " having it in the first place" is a waste, because you cant really appreciate it as in to compare with anything else.
its an engeneering master dont get me wrong, and a massive loss to those who built it but it will be bought by useless wankers who will never be able to use it and just look at it as a staus symbol saying i am rich enough but dont know what to do with it
and lets face what would anybody
otherwise well done to who built it wow what an ugly awesome bit of kit
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its an awesome car, read in nuts or zoo this week there is a dodge viper coming out that can do 255mph and costs £100,000, they are making 75 of them. Anyone else seen this I was only flicking through the mag
Originally Posted by PT
its an awesome car, read in nuts or zoo this week there is a dodge viper coming out that can do 255mph and costs £100,000, they are making 75 of them. Anyone else seen this I was only flicking through the mag
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/...ctionReq=Where
Originally Posted by gurnE
Originally Posted by PT
its an awesome car, read in nuts or zoo this week there is a dodge viper coming out that can do 255mph and costs £100,000, they are making 75 of them. Anyone else seen this I was only flicking through the mag
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/...ctionReq=Where
who the hell am I kidding I can hardly keep my every dayer on the road let alone save for one of them. money for xmas before anyone asks
no i wouldn't buy it because I just wouldn't
rather spend on something like that norris designs evo cause it's one off never to be made again and i guess will be more fun to use.
rather spend on something like that norris designs evo cause it's one off never to be made again and i guess will be more fun to use.
Originally Posted by the sludge
thought it was 10 rads rab?
3 for intercooler, 3 for engine, 1 for axle oil and 1 for gearbox, other 2 i cant remember
3 for intercooler, 3 for engine, 1 for axle oil and 1 for gearbox, other 2 i cant remember
Standard bugatti`s do have 10 though
Waaaay overpriced and over complicated
Why does it take an eight litre W16 with four turbos to make 125 bhp/litre
Much respspect to the makers of the drive train though
Mark
Why does it take an eight litre W16 with four turbos to make 125 bhp/litre
Much respspect to the makers of the drive train though
Mark
The Viper is cool. The Veyron is amazing but how come they can build a 1000bhp Viper with more torque so much more cheaply?
Doesn't have so much advanced kit and the main part of R&D was done year ago I guess....
Doesn't have so much advanced kit and the main part of R&D was done year ago I guess....
Depends if the viper actually goes faster than the bugatti. The new koenigsggisiisisisisisigggg was claimed to be faster than the mclaren f1 but when they tested it it was no where near. the bugatti however IS that fast. the fact that you could pass the bugatti in a mclaren at 120 and the bugatti will still get to 200 faster from a standing start is absolutely amazing. If the viper can do that I would be even more amazed. The bugatti cost something like 5 million each to make so vw are losing what 4.2 million on each car. There is no way the viper is built to anywhere near that standard. I mean come on.. the indicator stalks cost £4500 each on the bugatti.
Personally I don't think we will ever see another car like the Bugatti. VW only did it to see if they could.. I dont think any other company would be prepared to make such a loss on each car.
We should all pay homage to a one of a kind car!
Personally I don't think we will ever see another car like the Bugatti. VW only did it to see if they could.. I dont think any other company would be prepared to make such a loss on each car.
We should all pay homage to a one of a kind car!
I think it's disgusting how in the current environmental state we are in that they could be so irresponsible to release such a car. They should have spent the developmnet money into making greener, more fuel efficient cars.
It's fuckin awesome
Fair play to them for building it even if they will never see the money back. An excercise in doing something just to prove it can be
It's fuckin awesome
Fair play to them for building it even if they will never see the money back. An excercise in doing something just to prove it can be
pmsl @Oranoco
they are apparently only building 300 so i have found out. At £810,000 our money that will work to a very tidy profit in around 15 years time i would say.
that will be a great collectors car
they are apparently only building 300 so i have found out. At £810,000 our money that will work to a very tidy profit in around 15 years time i would say.
that will be a great collectors car
It is a fookin' awesome car..
But I think I'll go for the Saleen S7:

But I think I'll go for the Saleen S7:

Move over Bugatti Veyron - there's a new king of the road coming through - the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo, already clocked at 416 km/h, with more to come!
US specialist company Saleen has been around for some time now, and its latest 560 kW S7 Twin Turbo production model owes a lot to racecar development in terms of its styling and technology.
Already incredibly quick, the S7 is now available with a 'performance upgrade' option which boosts the 7-litre twin-turbo V8 to a claimed 736 kW, same power output as the Veyron.
In "standard" trim the Saleen is as quick as the Veyron from rest to 100 km/h , at 2.9 seconds - thanks to less weight - hits 160 km/h in six seconds, and runs on to a top speed of 384 km/h.
However the power boost cuts the acceleration time down even further, while insiders say the car has already topped 416 km/h, with more to come.
By comparison the Bugatti Veyron, which until now has claimed the title of the world's fastest production car, is electronically limited to 400 km/h, although its designers claim it could go on to 450 km/h without limiters.
With 75 examples of the S7 already delivered in the US, the Saleen certainly has every right to take away the Veyron's title.
In standard trim the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo costs the equivalent in its home markets of R3.5-million, with the upgrade around another half million.
US specialist company Saleen has been around for some time now, and its latest 560 kW S7 Twin Turbo production model owes a lot to racecar development in terms of its styling and technology.
Already incredibly quick, the S7 is now available with a 'performance upgrade' option which boosts the 7-litre twin-turbo V8 to a claimed 736 kW, same power output as the Veyron.
In "standard" trim the Saleen is as quick as the Veyron from rest to 100 km/h , at 2.9 seconds - thanks to less weight - hits 160 km/h in six seconds, and runs on to a top speed of 384 km/h.
However the power boost cuts the acceleration time down even further, while insiders say the car has already topped 416 km/h, with more to come.
By comparison the Bugatti Veyron, which until now has claimed the title of the world's fastest production car, is electronically limited to 400 km/h, although its designers claim it could go on to 450 km/h without limiters.
With 75 examples of the S7 already delivered in the US, the Saleen certainly has every right to take away the Veyron's title.
In standard trim the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo costs the equivalent in its home markets of R3.5-million, with the upgrade around another half million.
All you folks claiming 125bhp per litre is wank are missing the point. It could be waaaay more powerful but tyres and transmission and aerodynamics are the 'limiting' factors
The fact it's 1001 bhp, has all that performance, is beautiful in my eyes and a nice place to be inside, allegedly fairly easy to drive, reliable enough to cruise from Italy to England in a day without missing a beat makes it very special indeed.
Just look at the Dodge, Saleen etc and do they have an ounce of the style the Bugatti has, not IMO
The fact it's 1001 bhp, has all that performance, is beautiful in my eyes and a nice place to be inside, allegedly fairly easy to drive, reliable enough to cruise from Italy to England in a day without missing a beat makes it very special indeed.
Just look at the Dodge, Saleen etc and do they have an ounce of the style the Bugatti has, not IMO
Wouldn't have one. I could regurgitate everything about this car in comparison to the McLaren F1. But I'll try to condense it.
This car is NOT a great enginnering thing. As said 125 Force fed BHP per litre is shockingly bad. ( A stage 3 saff is not far from that, and I would say that's a reliable enough to be used everyday) The car trials NO new technology or engineering. In terms of it being "amazing" all that power is used. Its no more incredible than an uprated paddle clutch. Everything is just heavy engineering. Bugatti just wanted to build a car faster than the F1. Thats not design, thats paranoia. What they should of done, is look at all the good Supercars, F1, Carrera, Enzo, Zonda etc etc. And said lets make something better.
Lets make a car thats:
Faster than the F1
RWD
Weighs less than 1000kg
Carries more luggage than a 5 series
Shorter than a Elise
Carries more than 2 people.
And uses a NA 4litre V10 to get 800BHP.
Is involving to drive.
Has Carbon/Ceramic brakes with decent feel (not easy these days)
Uses a special weave of Carbon or even better, uses a new composite material that's never been used on road cars before
That would of been a BETTER car. Any car maker can make a fast car, its all the other things that make for a great car. Not just the speed aspect. If VAG had built the car with those attributes I would cheer it from the mountains. But Veyron simply doesn't touch real supercars. Its a marketting excercise, that's all. And if anyone has the current Evo magazine, (COTY) read Gordon Murray's piece about overtaking. How can 8 litres produce so much lag! Why didn't they use different turbos or anti lag or whatever. Turbo Lag on a $1.2M car is inexcuseable!
And on the subject of the numbers, I don't beleive you can get 1900kg to 60 in 2.5 seconds. Regardless of 1001 bhp. Stripped out skylines with similar power are around that and they weigh 2/3rds of a ton LESS. And lets not even get to that highly inaccurate power gauge
Also lok at all those radiators, and the fact theres no engine cover. This car seems to generate some serius heat issues. So why didn't Bugatti fix them properly! And I can't stand the ugliness. Not just of the overall car, but of that rear wing that Im sure was an afterthought. You can imagine the meeting "Oh Crap, vee have a proplem vis the rear of zee car, quick bung a hige extendable ving on zee back"
Overall I think the Veyron is for show offs. The same show offs that will dump it as soon as the next car comes along that does a higher vMax. How many people who claim the Veyron as the best car ever, used to think the Koeninsegg CCR was the best car ever before? Im sure with all the electronics its very easy to drive very fast, but is it a very deep read, or will you tire of quickly? Will it become boring.
McLaren F1 (like Carrera and Enzo and Zonda) is more for purists of supercars. Maybe not the easiest car to drive, apparently not the fastest now. But a real drivers car. And that's why I would never buy an automatic/gadget infested/4wd/Turbo'd Supercar.
My choice (like it's ever going to happen
)
1) F1
2) Carrera GT
3) Enzo
4) Zonda F
5) NSX Type R
Anyway read this article "When Pigs fly"
http://www.tvrfreak.com/blog/phatrides/
This car is NOT a great enginnering thing. As said 125 Force fed BHP per litre is shockingly bad. ( A stage 3 saff is not far from that, and I would say that's a reliable enough to be used everyday) The car trials NO new technology or engineering. In terms of it being "amazing" all that power is used. Its no more incredible than an uprated paddle clutch. Everything is just heavy engineering. Bugatti just wanted to build a car faster than the F1. Thats not design, thats paranoia. What they should of done, is look at all the good Supercars, F1, Carrera, Enzo, Zonda etc etc. And said lets make something better.
Lets make a car thats:
Faster than the F1
RWD
Weighs less than 1000kg
Carries more luggage than a 5 series
Shorter than a Elise
Carries more than 2 people.
And uses a NA 4litre V10 to get 800BHP.
Is involving to drive.
Has Carbon/Ceramic brakes with decent feel (not easy these days)
Uses a special weave of Carbon or even better, uses a new composite material that's never been used on road cars before
That would of been a BETTER car. Any car maker can make a fast car, its all the other things that make for a great car. Not just the speed aspect. If VAG had built the car with those attributes I would cheer it from the mountains. But Veyron simply doesn't touch real supercars. Its a marketting excercise, that's all. And if anyone has the current Evo magazine, (COTY) read Gordon Murray's piece about overtaking. How can 8 litres produce so much lag! Why didn't they use different turbos or anti lag or whatever. Turbo Lag on a $1.2M car is inexcuseable!
And on the subject of the numbers, I don't beleive you can get 1900kg to 60 in 2.5 seconds. Regardless of 1001 bhp. Stripped out skylines with similar power are around that and they weigh 2/3rds of a ton LESS. And lets not even get to that highly inaccurate power gauge
Also lok at all those radiators, and the fact theres no engine cover. This car seems to generate some serius heat issues. So why didn't Bugatti fix them properly! And I can't stand the ugliness. Not just of the overall car, but of that rear wing that Im sure was an afterthought. You can imagine the meeting "Oh Crap, vee have a proplem vis the rear of zee car, quick bung a hige extendable ving on zee back"Overall I think the Veyron is for show offs. The same show offs that will dump it as soon as the next car comes along that does a higher vMax. How many people who claim the Veyron as the best car ever, used to think the Koeninsegg CCR was the best car ever before? Im sure with all the electronics its very easy to drive very fast, but is it a very deep read, or will you tire of quickly? Will it become boring.
McLaren F1 (like Carrera and Enzo and Zonda) is more for purists of supercars. Maybe not the easiest car to drive, apparently not the fastest now. But a real drivers car. And that's why I would never buy an automatic/gadget infested/4wd/Turbo'd Supercar.
My choice (like it's ever going to happen
1) F1
2) Carrera GT
3) Enzo
4) Zonda F
5) NSX Type R
Anyway read this article "When Pigs fly"
http://www.tvrfreak.com/blog/phatrides/
Originally Posted by the sludge
Originally Posted by aduz
pointless thread really as no one on here will ever own one



Originally Posted by aduz
Originally Posted by the sludge
Originally Posted by aduz
pointless thread really as no one on here will ever own one




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