fuckin car

giving it some beans in 4th, changed up to 5th then i seem to recall it jolting a couple of times, then I bogged down so dropped it to 4th and carried on.

LOADS of rattling, and clonking; then realised 5th gear had gone..... if you put it in 5th it just revs - no drive.

Then when I got home went to reverse into the drive and can't get it in reverse - gearstick physically won't go in.

any ideas whats happened? selector or gear or what?

 

That'll be the 'box mate, not the selector. Sounds like 'new 'box' time...........

 

Box is Fucked

 

Mines munched too so ya not alone

 

lost some teeth rich, new bernie box 800

 

fuckin arse

 

i was going uphill so would that confirm what you said rudes?

 

Youll need to take off the side cover of the box and have a look. The fault will be visible I rekon. Its hard to advise what to do without knowing what the condition of these components is like.

 

Welcome to the world of gearbox killing


Cheers

Steve

 

haven't seen you in AGEESSSSS mate!! hows it going, you efi yet?

how long to get the engine out of a fezzy then?

 

good news is you can fix 5th gear easy enough

as rudey said though, thats spot on info


btw i average atleast 1 box a year,,,,,,,,,, and thats on my runabouts, the cossie box is fooked in mine too but the T5 is a trooper and just carrys on going


take off the end and have a play, ive got a box with a fooked lay shaft bearing but its still got 5th on it,,,,,, actually ive got 3 like it

 

lol fair enough - can you get the end of in-situ then?

 

and when you say 5th is starved of oil first - is that because box oil was low or because I was going up a steep hill?

 

mine done the same earlier this year going to croft. just got it in 3rd gear giving it hell and bang, wheels locked and no gears. Gave no sign of giving up before it went. Stripped box and found twisted and snapped main shaft and only reverse had teeth left

200+ BHP and heavy foot on std box dont go very well

 

pretty sure the 5th gear oil starvation thing is just a crap ford design, bernie does a 5th gear oil mod to allow loads more oil into the end of the box so it doesnt happen again.......

 

thats the lay shaft bearing being killed, thats caused by slowing the car down with gears ( its true as thats what i ALWAYS do and ive done prob 7 boxes,,,,,,, NON OF EM IN A TURBO POWERED CVH AND ONE IN A 1300


5th gear is caused by low gearbox oil btw, if the oil level was right then it would still go BUT usually when holding it at high revs for a long period of time,,,,,,,,,, i done 1 box like that but i held the foot to the floor from watford gap services to the leeds turn off and the car just "poped" out of gear and i could get 4th fine, just would not hold in 5th untill i slowed down a little and the box cooled down


that box actually lasted me for 10k miles after that, but never used it on a motorway since

 

well if its low oil its even worse cos it could have been prevented

box only went in a year ago




why do you think i cant get it into reverse?

 

reverse im not totally sure off, maybe the linkage is slipped and the box is fine



and maybe i am REALLY big boned person with strawberry blonde hair

 

shit... sounds like is a shit time for gearboxes, mine gone aswell

 

yeah thats it, its cause its december the boxes die,,,,,,,, if only you left in in the garage till january then it wouldnt have died

 

Is this in the FRST? Cause thats a Quaiffe box.

 

yeah cos thats what i meant...

 

quaiffe boxes also die when theres no oil in em too btw

just ask sunny

 

fook me you seem tense


pop out and take the car for a rag, i find that helps me when i feel grumpy

 

pmsl i would do if my gearbox wasnt fucked

 

Kieron yeah mate be interested to see the fluid level can't believe its low as it got installed properly afaik only last year

 

balin when you fill the box you have to leave it for 20 mins then refill as the oil gally to5th takes a while for it to tget through,,,,,,,,, i know thats no use now though

 

Sorry to hear that mate. The fluid level in the box was definately OK.

I remember well as Steve gave me a gearbox oil dirty shanchez.

 

pmsl....


did you do the work on it then? didn't realise you knew the car

 

I didn't do much on it, helped change the box, mounts, Anti rollbar and fitted the cossie brakes up front. Most of the engine work etc was done by EA.

Know the car well



Can't see why you are selling it mate.

 

I got a bernie stage 2 box for sale

 

bit of a spur of the moment thing i spose mate, but I need a car for work and now im fucked.....its xmas, wont be fixed until new year etc. just cant be dealing with it lol

might change my mind once i get started on it dunno!

 

Know the feeling, two cossies and I am still having to drive around in a damn pug!

 

Ballin - I have a full ERST 'box stripped back home, everything bar the LSD. If you want fifth gear alone let me know. I have a Stage 1 Bernie 'box in my Zetec Turbo Fiesta, and made damn sure it was full! Put the car on axle stands, filled it to the brim, left it half an hour and filled it again, probably took close on 500ml extra after that Had it jacked up to get as much in there as possible.

 

dont want to overfill it tho either do ya mate?

cheers for the offer btw. I may well take you up on that! but it will be new year until I can get into it!
Is replacing 5th gear a diy job or do you need to check clearances etc. etc.?

 

You are bang on the money mate! Unfortunately just about all service schedules I've seen, especially the Ford ones, do not specify "Check gearbox oil level"!!!

Incidentally, the reason the gearbox won't go into reverse is all the 5th gear shrapnel getting in the way!

 

Not sure you can overfill them really? Sure Bernie would be the one to clear that query up I'd guess if fifth has showered bits everywhere the 'box could maybe do with a fairly extensive strip to clean out the shrapnel. Anyway, if you want a cheap gear, let me know via PM on here or fiestaturbo.com, FT being the better bet

 

Mine did this on the way to National Day this year....worked fine apart from nothing in 5th gear....and it ratttled its tits off

I had to drive the car out of the show car area with 100's of people about with the box sounding like it was about to drop out