I know people have built YB's to ~2200cc but can it be done with a Zetec?

What would the benefits of building a 2.2 be over keeping one 2.0? (other than the obvious power/torque gain potential)

Would there be any disadvantages?

 

Dont think theres any need for a 2.2 zetec, wont get much gain over a 2.1


PhilM will have the answer

 

what you up 2 stu?

 

Why 2.2? Why 2.1? Whats wrong with 2.0?

The bigger the bore then the thinner the cylinder walls = weaker block.

Yeah it can be done! But mucho ŁŁŁ's and quite an expense to goto for the sake what? Spinning the front wheels a little more!

 

 

waste of time as ur not doing one y not go 2.4

 

very true.

so weld 2 blocks together for a 4litre V8

 

did he not mean 2.2 as per martin hadland way???

 

Wondering how long the piss takeing will take to kick in...

Who said I aint going for one? Got a 2.0 Sat in me garage waiting to have some money thrown at it.

Question is do I spend the money N/Aing it and just sticking it on some carbs or spend the money converting it to turbo.

Either way if I spend on the money on turboing it wont have much money left to do much to the engine, but if I keep it N/A then I'll have a few grand or so to have the head, block done.

 

Weld 4 together and have a V16

All in an XR2


you staying N/A Stu?

Be pointless imo...

 

as above rad

 

whats your budget??


You wont want masses of power in an XR2....

 

think the way to look at it is if its a good idea why aint it been done ?


r+d costs cash remember

 

You'd have to ask yourself a few questions I'd say.

Is it your everyday car or just your toy for track days?

How much you got to spend?

What power do you want?

Loads of other questions along that line

 

Eventually the car is going to be turned soley into a track day racer.

Budget? Well however much I can get on a loan!

 

Wooooah Big mistake



Trust me

 

rad's right..

getting a loan is soo not the way to do it mate..

 

Yeah but I'll spend the money before I can save it on booze

 

cliff what has a track based car got to don with engine CC ?


the question about WHO CAN DO IT AND HOW MUCH is the one id be thinking off


after of course what do i aim to achive with it and would the money be best spent else where and would i notice more of a difference


generally stu the 2.2 zetec is the same as why didnt ford make a 5litre zetec, whats the end goal for the cash injection ?


just fit a NA engine to it and do some research or other areas, no point going 200 miles and hour if you have to back of earlier when radders in his mini can out brake and steer round the corners

 

Ive a few cars on my hit list now

S2
Focus
Metro Gti
Punto

And theres more to come with my new suspension


Dont really need big power for track.. its the driver that counts

 

Don't get a loan Stu you will regret it.
My car is costing me a fortune but all of it is being paid cash.
I would never get a loan now unless it was for a house.
I wouldn't even consider the loan option if I were you
Work out what you can afford or save and then decide from that.

A 2 litre 16 valve zetec is roughly 150 bhp as standard so there's a great start for such a little car.

 

stick with 2.0l mate, the pistons and rods im using are about 1k
then im using a ....... ooooh almost said what inlet im gonna use then, but its secret lol

mild port head and std 2.0l cams will see over 300bhp

 

I dont want to go for any in-betweens, first things on my list is wheels brakes and suspension set up, but then I'm gonna get the Zetec worked on.

But I dont want the situation where I have an engine built then go, "Oh, could have done this too." Rather get an engine built to the potential with the budget I have THEN put it in the car. The at least I wont have to pay taking it out, getting it done then putting it back in again every time I want something else doing to it.

 

On a N/A Zetec or a turbo? Because if I went turbo I more than likely would stick with just a 2.0.

 

silver top 2.0l turbo mate

spec so far is

2.0l block
mild port and 3 angle valve seats head
standard but new 2.0l cams
primary designs zprst manifold
inlet similar to Mr. Hadlands!
Wiseco pistons 7.8:1CR
Steel rods
SECS S8 management
T34 turbo with .63 housing

will se well over 350bhp and the pstons and rods are gonna be first ones available for direct fit to silver top zetecs

 

just go the whole hog stu and aim for 300bhp

thats what im doing

 

[quote="b19bal"]cliff what has a track based car got to don with engine CC ?


We were talking in general about what he wants the whole package as in the car to do
You know this thing called the big picture rather than just one small area.

So you wouldn't advise things something like a baffled sump as a wise investment for a track car compared to somethjing that is just going to be used on the road

 

Buy a fully prepped track car mate. Let somebody else foot all the expense!

I'd never build another from scratch and I've not even finshed yet! Costs just keep going up, its never ending. I wish I'd have bought one that'd allready been done, caged, slicks, spares etc.........

Deffo dont get a loan.

 

Absolutely no point in a 2.2!

Bore walls are too thin to get it from just an overbore, 2.1 is getting a little close for me personally! And thats not true 2.1, its actually 2045cc.

So to achieve 2.2 you'd be looking at stroking it, which will cost a lot for a crank and rods to suit (Four figure number). As a result though, you'd have kept the sameish bore, and a longer stroke, making the already undersquare zetec, even more undersquare....fantastic!

Yes you'd have more torque, great if you own a jeep , not so great for a FWD rs turbo.

Look at what power actually is, and how it is made, then build your engine....

If you want capacity and torque, get a 2.5 V6 Duratec bolted in

 

 

2 litre Zetec on carbs, or fairly standard.

Don't go turbo - the power delivery of a N/A in a lightweight XR2 will be much more applicable.

Getting a loan to build an engine is crazy in my eyes - the return in performance on the hassle of owing money doesn't make any sense, especially when you consider that a simple standard 2 litre will make the car ridiculously fast!

You're far better off getting the 2 litre in and running, and learning to drive track really well, and you'll be passing cars with twice the power, and it'll have cost you 1/10th of the money.

It's all about the FUN mate, and never about laying out more money you don't have to achieve the same goal! Funnily enough, more power often equals less fun when it ends up costing you more money (which you'd have to borrow), the noise issues on track, the way the car lays power down (especially when turbo'd) etc etc..........

Stick the sensible hat on, and it'll pay dividends in the long term.

 

that advice from pon is totally spot on

2 litre zetec and get it running in a weekend on a 500 quid budget, spend 2 years ragging the car or go turbo and spend 2 years building it and searching for oil leaks and all funny noises from the car will reduce you to tears, loads of people on here dont mention that factor or the stress that comes with it

 

Bugger the PON beat me to it. Exactly what I would recomend though

 

Well Said PON

 

i would sat throtles but them i hate carbs

 

evening boys , so whats the crack with the ford galaxys 2.3 bottom end ?

could have swore i heard a rumor going that they can be dropped in ?

probably a twat to get hold of though ??


anyone

 

yeah but thats for a rs2000 engine

 

They did a 2.3 Zetec in the later galaxys.

Start there

 

Thats actually the "I4" engine, same type as fitted to the RS2000s Not a Zetec