where can i get a cossie/turbo dizzy from for cossie management?

 

why s that you changin from ya top sensor to a dizzy?

 

I can get hold of these £155 delivered not a cut & shut like some

 

Thought you had a coil pack Gus???


Why you changing ???

 

Hey thats mine ya fooker lol

 

nope its not for me


cheers for that thou will pass on

 

so what would that do being a cossie dizzy ?spark faster ?

 

ive got one in the garage , if its not there then ive binned it , ill be back tomorow with news...............good or bad i cant say

 

 

WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT TO USE A CUT AND SHUT DIZZY



COSTS TWICE AS MUCH AS A CAM SENSOR SETUP WHICH WILL WORK A WHOLE LOT BETTER.

If cut and shut dizzys were the way to go.. STU, Ahmed, Paul Hills etc.. would all use a cut and shut dizzy! I think you will find that they use a fully adjsutable cam/phase sensor setup

 

Best place for it mate in the bin

 

lol @ jano, well i cant find it , i think its in dizzy heaven , jano , i havent forgotten the arrangement i made with you , will be a couple more week ok bud

 

Chris, whenever mate.

Your parts are on shelf waiting

 

Jano no one was askin for a cut and shut dizzy where u get theat from?

 

Either cut and shut or hybrid, same sort of thing in my eyes mate.

The phase sensor is a shite component that always causes problems after X amount of time. Becuase it is in the dizzy it suffers from loads of problems related.

Apart from all that it is not needed and is another moving part in the engine bay which does not need to be there.

I could go on but its "pointless"

A cam sensor is just a magnetic trigger. Nothing to fail or wear.. Obviously one day you will need to change the sensor, but i know of 15year old Cosworths with the same CPS from the factory with no problems or change in Ohms. Reliablity is the second most important. First it needs to work...

 

Jay,

We are talking about ways to trigger the phase for a Cosworth managed engine.

This is not for a KE system like yours mate

 

Does a cam sensor not have a moving part then ??? Is it not the same thing as a phase sensor really ???? Just on the other end of the cam ?? So would you not be removing, a moving part and sensor and replace it with another moving part and sensor ?????????

 

dude your car looks mint in that pic

 

I know, shame she's not mine anymore, altough I would like her back now Danny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

O well ave ta stick with the S2, will have another S1 though and a RS1600i too !

 

thats just greedy


you sorted now then?

 

Kinda !!

Thinking defo coil pack, just gotta decide on the inlet side of things !

 

 

You are correct. The phase sensor in a cossie dizzy is still just a magnetic trigger. Being in the dizzy it suffers more with heat/possible oil contamination and vibration as well as the emf from the spark jumping from rotor arm to cap.

 

Well if you fit a cam sensor the dizzy is pointless then fitting a coil pack is easy

 

Other than the reasons posted above by DazC most dizzys have many moving parts.. We are talking about gears, Spline, Seals x4, Rotor Arm, Dizzy cap, Carbon tips, O rings etc etc etc all these parts can and will fail in the end..!

or you replace them all with just one sensor

Its more than just the phase sensor we are talking about as it is joined to so many other components. On some cars it also involves the oil pumps, thats another topic...

HTH
Regards
Jano

 

lo jano,thinkin of paintin me rocker cover,that looks nice in black geeza!

but the allen bolts looked like pop rivets at first glance

afta get me eyes checked.

 

The rocker cover is standard 1.4cvh Escort mk6. It is black from factory.




And no mate, the only rivets i have are on the skirts

 

By gears I assume you mean the trigger wheel for the phase sensor?

 

Well if its good enough for 160 plus mph and 300 plus hp on my engine nuff said any better cars with cam trigger wheels ???????

p.s and no vibration missfires either.

 

lol no chance mate!!!!

 

Yes loads thanks Try searching out side the walls of PF

 

She's looking good mate !!! Just brought a S2 just miss the S1 sooooo much though.

Will get the sig sorted when i get round too it mate or i'll blank the plate for ya..... LOL.

GUS rocker cover and plenum mod looks the dog's !!!!

Jano: Is the trigger sensor for the coil pack simply a cps ?? if not what is it ?? does there need to degrees of adjust around that sensor for timing or is it all done in the map ??

 

riviting!

i might do mine mesell,as im handy like that,
black with cracked lightning blue effect , or juss black .

yeah,the allen heads look smooth,they titanium or alu? or stainless.even

 

The Phase sensor / Cam Sensor


A Cosworth Crank Sensor (Weber) Roughly £28 can be bought secondhand but for this price its not worth it.
http://www.motorsport-developments.c...products_id=40


A Highly polished Stainless Steel bracket to hold the sensor, it is adjustable via 2 springs and Stainless Areoquip nuts. Measures as low as 1thou Not that you would need to £40

A Laser cut then lathed mild steel disk which acts as the trigger for the magnetic sensor to pickup. £28

When these items are used together it gives an infinitive mechanical adjustment to the setup. This is not to be confused with the adjustments in the map!

It enables the adjustment of the phase timming to the EXACT position for your engine spec and setup. Any Tuner in the world will be able to adjust the settings in a mechanical way. This needs to be perfect before the mapping of the engine in an electronic way. Maybe a tuner (of your choice) will need to move it to get the best out of the engine setup which is simple to do, unlock the disk and turn in any direction 360degree then lock back into place.

EASY


**Prices added for a comparison to a dizzy**

Now to add a little fun....

On a 16v TWIN CAM engine i can control the phase timming from the inlet cam and the Speed sensor from the exhaust cam.

For kit cars or tight engine bays this is a kool feature..

This is how i control the engine bay below, first of its kind running Focus Motorsport CGi Bottom end, P8 with coilpack.

 

When the flag drops the bullshit stops,
Nope dont think i seen any lol
how come none of these monsters were at the thrash?

 

I wanted the cars featured before they attend a daddy thrash, both of which have now been featured. Soon to be on front cover





Then bring on the tarmac