...... in a road car!

i was reeet bored on the commute home tonight so was trying it! pmsl its loads harder than it looks!

my left foot is proper heavy so it was kangarooing all the time! then i confused myself so much i went to change down the gears but still had my left foot on the brake! good job there wasnt owt behing me!

 

yup,head hit the bloody windscreen!lol!

 

do it regular for some reason - mainly on roundabouts in 2nd gear with the throttle wide open

 

i can do it sometimes...


but then my brakes in my mini are bloody spongey

not to bad at it, Karting helps

 

Can't left foot brake to save my life but have sussed heel and toe

 

glad im not the only one!

i'll keep practising! it beats right hand only driving - that get boringly easy after a while!

 

Such hard thing to do a mate of mine can do it but im the same as you`s, skippy the bush kangaroo

 

it was easy on the steering wheel on gt4

 

Yeah but crashing at The Ring doing 200mph isn't a concern either

 

I do it lots, usually when coming up to speed cameras (thus keeping my right foot on the gas ready for immediate acceleration after the cash machine )

 

i do it loads for some reason too. pretty good at it now, although i dont keep the power on at the same time. Need to try the heel and toe thing. Anyone got any info on how to do it? a techinal essay for instance, lol.

 

Mike... I'll show you how to Heel and toe

 

all cars should have a restart button

 

How do you heel and toe in a fwd

 

er....use your heel and your toe rad! your feet and the pedals are in the same place!

 

Whether or not I am doing it correctly leads to be seen but I:-

Approach corner and brake using the ball of my right foot. as I brake I depress the clutch and whilst the cltch pedal goes down I blip the throttle with arch/heel whilst still braking with the ball of my foot. gear is selected and the clutch let back out.

The engine revs are brought up to speed before clutch is let out so the braking and downshift remains smoother.

That's how I've been doing it anyway

 

braking on the front wheels while putting power down through them...

im lost

 

That would be left foot braking mate

heel and to I explained above

 

or just blipping the throttle while downchanging radleigh?

 

I have done it a few times, its great for kicking the back end out on a fwd
car, or i sometimes use it to balance the cossie at speed...

Al.........

 

Never heard of the term "heel and toe" in a fwd car

Just rwd, And its bloody fun

 

talking about weird driving skills ...

can any of you dv boys make the double woosh woosh noise? my mate can do it and it sounds pretty freaky. never tried it myself but think it involved letting off the throttle a little, then back on it to shut the dv again and then depress clutch straight after. get it tight enough and think its enough to convince the chavs its running 2 dv's!

 

as your piling into a corner with your brakes on you want to change down a gear,and also blip the throttle as you do,well,you only have 2 feet but 3 pedals!heel and toe!

 

how on gods own earth would depressing the clutch make a dv go off?its called letting your foot off then reapply then letting off again,can do it all day long!

 

Oh and greig i pissed myself at that \/\/\/\/

 

I LFB on the way to track days if I'm running the DS3000s

Coooont won't stop when they are cold

I'll find a vid of H+T - It doesn't matter what wheel drive it is

As said above, it's a technique used to make braking and downchanging a smooth operation

 

Heel and Toe is done like Oranoco described.

The aim is to bring the revs up as you change gear to prevent lockup and allow you to get in the correct gear for the corner. All whilst braking

I drive like it all the time, but havent mastered it at full chat yet (although I'm getting there!)

StevenRW off here is a fookin dab hand at it!

Neil.

 

yup,my left foot only does 2 things! supports my hefty weight,or presses a clutch without finesse! it got confused and stamped HARD on the brake! ouch!lol!

 

I can make my sapph sound like two dv's, just blip the throttle hard..

And yes i should not know that .........

Al........

 

Spot on.

H'n'T is the only one thats worth bothering with on the road.

LFB is really for track use only. Despite what some people might think. On the road you simply don't need to get on the gas the instant you release the brakes. Its not a race

 

Here's a vid of H+T - He makes it look easy.

I find it's easier to do when on track and braking nearly to the point of locking up, the brake pedal is firm and it's easier to twist your foot to blip the throttle.

Anyway, here's the vid - Quicktime required.

http://homepage.mac.com/gkawano/heel%20and%20toe.mov

 

Good video.

I would just add its easier to learn at higher speeds than lower.

 

is it the same process for doing burnouts etc? as i thought you would need more throttle for that. But i see peoples brake lights on when they do it.....

 

LFB Yes.

But ideally you would be LFB on and off as you go through a series of corners. Say an s bend. So you can be maintaining engine revs (somewhere near your turbo having an effect) and at the same time slowing for the corner. then releasing the car before reapplying LFB.

If you did your braking the usual right foot way you would be constantly dropping off the boost power band, and would loose seconds (in a race) waiting to build revs again.

Thats why I say its only for track, its not really of any use on the road compared to HnT. Its a very situation specific, and given that on the road theres an element of un-predictability its easy to get your feet mixed up in a panic situation. In fact Ive had to LFB completely to a stop (and stall the engine) because there wasnt the space (before the fresh obstacle) and grab the clutch and reapply the brakes with my right foot. IYSWIM

 

i remember when grpb first came out even water rohrl(awesome driver!) didnt know how to do it! he had to learn in an audi on the rally!

 

cool! burnouts coming up..... although is shags the rear pads doesnt it?

 

left foot braking has more uses than just keeping the revs up / throttle open to exit a corner.

it can be used as a technique to either initiate or control a slide

 

LFB helps to kick the arse end out on roundabouts when im in me cabrio , thinks its the kinetic energy that makes the car want to goe in a straight line and dabbing the brake seems to allow the rear to go on that line when the front is still going where i point it

find it quicker than using a hand brake as i can change gear quicker too

 

it's mostly because the weight transfer under braking gives the front more grip, and the rear less