Went o PE on thurs with the Fast Ford RS turbo, its been running like a pile of shit since we spent the companys money on it

anyway, we go down, toddy sets it up and makes it work, the engine was rebuilt soooo shodily it was comical

anyway, kent cvh35 cam, chipped ecu and a pace 1/2 width cooler, running 13psi it made 181bhp and 189lbft and 71 deg ACT

so me and new boy neil fit the pro alloy full width cooler, no other mods and it made 190bhp 201lbft @ 5066rpm! and ACT of 57 deg max

top fucking rod boys!!

oh, toddy said we can spank it up to 18psi next time but it was 7.30 pm and we all wanted to get gone.

should easily see 210bhp


handles like a bag of wank tho, and new brakes are now on the list


ps matt, we forgot to get some PE stickers, lob some in the post will ya

 

I'll get some stickers sorted

was that the ferarri not the loudest car you ever heard

 

57 Degrees ACT

 

what was the car reved too

thats a low power band there

whats the rev limit

 

ginge - pretty normal for std chipped cars - especially if no vernier on the pulley. small housing and std head. Prob flatlined rather than fell off.

 

That's what I thought!!

 

rick THAT low

fook me thats terrible

 

probably on a rolling road though to be fair.....

but it would be interesting to see how the GRS compares...

 

I have a GRS Evo 3 and it never goes anywhere near that on the rollers

 

 

Mind you it's having a 400bhp zetec built at the moment so I think that should give the intercooler a bit of shit so we'll see

 

My Pace Charge Cooler never got anywhere near that when on Powers Rollers

And that made 202 @ 16 psi

 

at 57 degree, It's certainly an issue I'd be tryig to sort out, not like it's middle of summer now is it and expect those kind of temps

 

also apart fromthe slightly lower act's does the car actually feel any different

 

fuk me thats high.. gona be losing of power with them temp's!

oh... just read your using a pro alloy cooler, that'll be the reason then.

 

but them claws away

before we ask about water temps

 

please dont, i dont think his guage would go that far

 

it could just have been where the temp sensor wire was, it was slotted in the samco by the TB so the charge carrier got hot from the heat of the engine.

car goes like a c*nt now tho

it was on the rollers too, i guess we need a proppa temp sensor to accuratly measure the ACTs then

 

 

that's a fair position for the Temp sensor Dan - it's the temperature of the air that the engine gets when all is said and done..

 

the sensor is usually in the inlet so it would in theory be even higher

you sure you should be working ona mag doing techy things

 

u think 57 is bad u dont want to know what mine r with my pro alloy cooler mk2 waneis on the case to sort it out

 

so the pro alloy cooler is the bollocks thing is actually a load of bollox


glad i know that know, ill stick to me rad tech then

 

edited, cos i realised i was talking shite! lol

 

for a the cosworth ur cant get any better ginge its the best about
but with the escort rs turbo s1 or s2 there still trying to sort it out for the hi powed cars if it no more then 180bhp ur ok lol

 

well we gianed 10bhp at the same boost by just fitting the cooler, and there is potential for a lot more...

 

Unless you know the output of the fans, how can you say the ACTs are shite (unless of course your ACTs were recorded on the same rollers with the same fans )?

14°C difference between the Pace one and the Pro-alloy one is a significant real world improvement. As long as any further tests are carried out using the same rollers / fans, then all improvements made will be valid.

Comparing different rollers / fans is a waste of time and completely idiotic and it is impossible to make direct comparisons .

 

When my car was last setup, Chris had the fan's on for at least 20 mins before even switching the engine on and even after 4 or 5 run's, the temps were no higher then 30oc

When I go back, And get a healthy 18 psi put through, I'll ask him what sort of ACT's it's showing

 

Oh dear.........

 

Rick - I had PE put a vernier on my S2 (with the std cam) and it made not 1bhp more than the using the std settings on a std pulley. Just incase anyone thought that its poorly timed from the factory like a Focus ST/SVT (on the zorst side)

Great advice from you as usual!

 

btw if those temps were in farenheight, what are they in degrees centigrade??

 

Tooooooooo low, impossible

But......


At least you are happy mate, that's what matters

 

to be honest tho, at full chat on the road you are going to be moving a shit load more air over the cooler than the fan on a rolling road can provide, so i guess we need to use a ACT gauge on the road to get a 100% accurate figure...