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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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heard these are still pretty good from a tuner.??? for a punchy car
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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yeah they are susposed to good, TBH i switched back to my std cam for a while, and car seemed quicker mid range.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Intresting

im gonna get rid of my piper t2 soon as its all high up power..so gonna try this
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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if u wanna sell that piper pm me mate, i need high end power at the mo, my cam seems to die early
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Cams sold to my m8 sorry 2 months old too
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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good for bigger turbos
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Well il be changing my turbo unit too to a stage 2 55trim 36 exhaust .

I have a cossie stage 3 on now and its just too big
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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got a new std cam sitting here at moment got to get round to fitting is as got kent cvh35 cam in at moment but one off loabs is badly worn.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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I'd keep the T2 in then. When u say cossie stg3, what spec is it? If it's got cut back exhasust wheel, or a 0.63 housing it's bad news...[/quote]
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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its a saff stage 3 60 trim wheel (says A/R 42 ???)
and 48 exhaust hsing..

im after a punchy car not all high end like it is now..

Plan was std cam
stage 2 turbo 55trim and std exhaust hsing 36?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:44 AM
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im using a kent cam sad i know, but i am going to be using a standard cam asap
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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I once heard this but with a vernier set up, its interesting.
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I got a vernier so i will find out soon

STD cam from ford is about Ł130 i can get one for Ł100 with discount etc
so gonna give this a go..
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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u'll need new lifters
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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The cam and anti pump lifters are about 1 month old? sud be ok to still use the lifters? there about 350 miles old
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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nope - u HAVE to use new lifters, they are bedded into the cam - it'll wear out in noi time otherwise.
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new lifters for that cam=Ł600
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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cam in my all singing cvh costs 75 quid complete with follwers from motor factors...
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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A tuner once told me that the std cam is not bad at all.

High duration ones have the risk of the mixture being "blown through"
partly by the boost pressure.

Also the biggest torque of the engine is not in the high rev area.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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In my opinion, wild cams work well with high boost. When using relatively low boost like 1bar, the standard cam gives good power and a very nice power band. Starts to pull strongly right from 2500rpm.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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The best spec on a cvh, using the traditonal turbos, is a wild cam on a stage 2 turbo - they go like hell. My engine is pretty diff, and a 0.48 cos turbo works well, but i can rev it. t34 going on soon, as i have on here - but really want to play with the bigger gt28's [/quote]
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JesseT, I fully agree.

I love the looks of the Orion and of course the S1,
but I do not agree with the S2 wheels on your S1 !!

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Standard cam is rubbish at high rpms, no need to take it much beyond 5000 rpm, is a steep downhill from there.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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JesseT, I fully agree.

I love the looks of the Orion and of course the S1,
but I do not agree with the S2 wheels on your S1 !!

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Well ordered up my std cam today as my piper cam failed..had oil pissing out the pulley end bolt hole..not impressed so some seal has messed up inside the cam..so il be sending that bk to em
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Standard cam in the Fes and use a KEnt CVH35 in my S2. No complaints at the mo from me. Tempted to try a Newman cam in the Fes when I get that far with it
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Yeh i heard newman cams are good but abit pricy and you can only run them with there solid lifters etc

Im going for std one as advised by karl norris
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i'm using a custom newman cam last far longer then either kent or piper

newman solid lifters



newman cam
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How easy are thos solid lifter to adjust?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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i find them quite easy but thats maybe because i have fitted three of these cams to different cars which were the off the shelf turbo cam, they have just brought out a new profile. for the rs turbo. my custom cam is a bit my radical then the cvh37... i had major problems with kent cams they use shite blanks, its a toss up wheather there cams last 200- or 10000 miles
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Well fitted my std cam today and it has made the car alot better..

Its alot smoother and revs right up to 6.5k which it didnt before..

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what did it rev too before ? mine pulls pretty hard now and revs to 6.5k but that was on standard turbo ,and i think the head was just port matched will find out when it comes off
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Ive heard that the standard cam is the same as in the CVH XR3i. Can any one confirm this?
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Only reved to 5.7k then ran on 3cycl sod knows why..

Ok now right up to 6.5k
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Ive heard that the standard cam is the same as in the CVH XR3i. Can any one confirm this?
Yes it is.
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Ive heard that the standard cam is the same as in the CVH XR3i. Can any one confirm this?
Yes it is.
Same cam, but a different cam pulley to retard it a bit compared to XR3i.
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my cam is the origional and the car has done 109000. does this mean i need a new cam.
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KA pulley on the RST, can't remeber what the other one is. I ran this one on a cvh 35 and it worked really well lol.
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my cam is the origional and the car has done 109000. does this mean i need a new cam.
You will find ur cam is very worn, and a new one will make the car a lot more punchy
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